That tells me they are out on Tucker
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MaxPower said:
That tells me they are out on Tucker
I'd argue they were never in to begin with
Nah. I think they are still "in" on Tucker but they are trying to low ball to get him. Hopefully Dana doesn't give in.MaxPower said:
That tells me they are out on Tucker
EastCoastAgNc said:MLB gathered 30 managers in a conference room in Dallas and revealed findings from a year-long study on arm injuries. The results stunned the group — and helped explain why starting pitcher prices have climbed so high.
— Alden González (@Alden_Gonzalez) December 13, 2024
On the biggest trend thus far … https://t.co/jCGzScqMny
Maybe, you know, allow the pitchers more than a couple breaths in between pitches? This trend predates the pitch clock, certainly, but everyone could see the exacerbating effect it would have on the arm before it was even implemented. ****ing Manfred.
The pitch clock is an easy scape goat. Sure, it maybe has some impact, but the reality is guys are trying to throw as hard as they can because it induces strikeouts. They are getting PAID for it.
I don't like Manfred as much as the next guy, but pitchers are pushing their absolute limits because it gets them paid. They are purposefully taking the risk. If they are going to get Max Fried contracts for throwing as hard as they can, they are going to continue to do it regardless of the pitch clock.
As much as I hated the idea of the pitch clock when it came out, I'm 100% for it. To go back on the pitch clock would be a mistake now, in my opinion.
It's also up to the players to protect themselves as well.
The below + whiffs increasing as spin rate increases + getting PAID for those results = elbow injuries.
I don't like Manfred as much as the next guy, but pitchers are pushing their absolute limits because it gets them paid. They are purposefully taking the risk. If they are going to get Max Fried contracts for throwing as hard as they can, they are going to continue to do it regardless of the pitch clock.
As much as I hated the idea of the pitch clock when it came out, I'm 100% for it. To go back on the pitch clock would be a mistake now, in my opinion.
It's also up to the players to protect themselves as well.
The below + whiffs increasing as spin rate increases + getting PAID for those results = elbow injuries.
Whiffs per swing by velocity (MPH),
— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) November 29, 2024
MLB fourseamers in 2024:
14% <-- 87-88
15% <-- 88-89
16% <-- 89-90
16% <-- 90-91
18% <-- 91-92
19% <-- 92-93
21% <-- 93-94
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27% <-- 98-99
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34% <-- 101+
Are the Winter Meetings still going on today or did that end yesterday?
I don't think it's the clock at all. IMHO it's the high spin designer pitches combined with max effort/velo on every pitch. This combo is a TJ waiting to happen.
Ironically Framber may be immune from this. His delivery is butter smooth and free.
Ironically Framber may be immune from this. His delivery is butter smooth and free.
It's a universal truth: you push things to their limits, they eventually break.Mathguy64 said:
I don't think it's the clock at all. IMHO it's the high spin designer pitches combined with max effort/velo on every pitch. This combo is a TJ waiting to happen.
Ironically Framber may be immune from this. His delivery is butter smooth and free.
Cuban RHP Robier Hernandez (17) officially signed with the Houston Astros.
— Francys Romero (@francysromeroFR) December 13, 2024
Bonus deal: $170,000.
Cuban National team member in U-15 World Cup 2022. Great athlete with starting pitcher potential, 6'4, good arm and fastball in 91-94 MPH. pic.twitter.com/ppVKgzKeLL
Beat40 said:It's a universal truth: you push things to their limits, they eventually break.Mathguy64 said:
I don't think it's the clock at all. IMHO it's the high spin designer pitches combined with max effort/velo on every pitch. This combo is a TJ waiting to happen.
Ironically Framber may be immune from this. His delivery is butter smooth and free.
If I'm a GM, I would be betting that every starter I have will need a TJ if they pitch for my club over a 5 year window.
If you sign a FA for 6 years, expect them to pitch for 4 and be out for 2. Anything more than that is a gift from the baseball gods.
EastCoastAgNc said:Cuban RHP Robier Hernandez (17) officially signed with the Houston Astros.
— Francys Romero (@francysromeroFR) December 13, 2024
Bonus deal: $170,000.
Cuban National team member in U-15 World Cup 2022. Great athlete with starting pitcher potential, 6'4, good arm and fastball in 91-94 MPH. pic.twitter.com/ppVKgzKeLL
He'll throw a no hitter in 2028
The #Phillies reportedly offered OF Nick Castellanos and INF Alec Bohm to the #Astros for OF Kyle Tucker, per @JimBowdenGM on MLB Network Radio
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) December 13, 2024
Houston declined that offer. pic.twitter.com/CiXF60Isc4
What a horrible offer...
Trade talks between the #Astros and #Cubs involving OF Kyle Tucker have “continued to gain momentum,” per @jonmorosi pic.twitter.com/qdHMeuO4xF
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) December 13, 2024
That's looks like an offer I make to my buddies in our fantasy football league.
One of those that they don't even respond to.
One of those that they don't even respond to.
Is there maybe another Nick Castellanos I don't know about who doesn't cost $20,000,000 and put up more than .8 WAR in 160 games last season?
I mean if you are the Phillies it never hurts to ask. They may call and Ed Wade may pick up the phone.
Tucker Paredes and Cam Smith is in the works, as mentioned. Close. https://t.co/I2iMCPtxBL
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 13, 2024
Cubs and Astros deal for Kyle Tucker deal gaining momentum...
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) December 13, 2024
Hearing a return of three pieces for Tucker, per multiple sources, but situation fluid at the moment.
Isaac Paredes and Cam Smith are names mentioned to me.
Long live the King.
Should have done this last year with Bregman.
Should have done this last year with Bregman.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Cubs close to acquiring Kyle Tucker from the Astros for a package led by IF Isaac Paredes. RHP Hayden Wesneski and 3B prospect Cam Smith also in play, sources tell @TheAthletic.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 13, 2024
Leaves a hole in the outfield
I guess I"ll wait until there are like 4,000 new posts on the thread to assume a deal has been made. Just read through 264 of them for not much
Wesneski is a Houston kid, Cy-Fair graduate
The Porkchop Express said:
I guess I"ll wait until there are like 4,000 new posts on the thread to assume a deal has been made. Just read through 264 of them for not much
Sorry for taking away 15 minutes of your work day.
Do this Jim and Dana…
If the Houston Astros complete their Kyle Tucker trade for 3B Isaac Parades, 3B prospect Cam Smith and pitcher Hayden Wesneski, that certainly would open the door for the New York Yankees to sign 3B Alex Bregman.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 13, 2024
So what's left assuming both corners of the infield are addressed here? Left girlfriend? Is this kid a leverage guy in the bullpen? Need bullpen help, a right fielder, and then trade press
The Porkchop Express said:
I guess I"ll wait until there are like 4,000 new posts on the thread to assume a deal has been made. Just read through 264 of them for not much
Sorry for taking 15 minutes of your work day.
I was at Wrigley last year and yelled over to Hayden while he was long tossing in the outfield. Something about go Bobcats or something, referring to Cy-Fair. Got a little smile and tip of the hat. He has been a good depth arm but just hasn't quite found his footing yet.txags11 said:
Wesneski is a Houston kid, Cy-Fair graduate
I want just a little more.
txags11 said:
Wesneski is a Houston kid, Cy-Fair graduate
Seems like a good kid. He came to talk to the baseball team a couple of seasons ago to share his journey.
I know Smith is probably a few years away..Do you try and move Paredes to 1B and up Bregman offer some? I don't hate that idea.
I also want more moves.
10andBOUNCE said:I was at Wrigley last year and yelled over to Hayden while he was long tossing in the outfield. Something about go Bobcats or something, referring to Cy-Fair. Got a little smile and tip of the hat. He has been a good depth arm but just hasn't quite found his footing yet.txags11 said:
Wesneski is a Houston kid, Cy-Fair graduate
He has some stuff that our pitching staff could capitalize on.
Smith could be ready midseason. I feel good about him in 2026.txags11 said:
I know Smith is probably a few years away..Do you try and move Paredes to 1B and up Bregman offer some? I don't hate that idea.
Yes, Paredes to 1B and Bergman 3B is a possibility. But I think money could be smarter spend in the OF now since Smith is a 3B.
That's fair..If Smith is ready then you def move on from Bregman and go get a Profar or something like that
EastCoastAgNc said:
So what's left assuming both corners of the infield are addressed here? Left girlfriend? Is this kid a leverage guy in the bullpen? Need bullpen help, a right fielder, and then trade press
Tell me more about the potential left girlfriend options. Would it be the Kikuchi rally girl?
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