***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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MaxPower
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Should just rebuild at this point. That lineup looks bad.
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Mathguy64 said:

I have no clue what Cleveland is doing.


No kidding... Only net $2m savings
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MaxPower said:

Should just rebuild at this point. That lineup looks bad.

That's how they do things... Make the playoffs once, blow it all up
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Farmer1906 said:

Unloaded salary.

Gimenez was in year 3 of a 106 M deal
Naylor was going to get ~14 M in arb then walk. Got the comp pick a year early plus a player.


There was a time when their division was so bad and they got 18 games against everyone in it that they could do this and still make the playoffs. That's not true anymore.
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1B market pretty much down to Pete Alonso. Probably goes to the Mets, which means the Mariners lose out on musical chairs.
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Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn
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cone said:

Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn



Christmas miracle would be unloading pressly and landing hernandez/Santander
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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cone said:

Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn


We kinda are. I won't be shocked if the Yankees, Os, and 'stros end up in a 3 way tie as betting favorites.
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cone said:

Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn


Our bullpen needs another arm as well.

My biggest worry is we have zero depth and outside of the second half of 2022 we've had bad luck with injuries
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tjack16 said:

cone said:

Astros are an OF away from looking pretty good rn


Our bullpen needs another arm as well.

My biggest worry is we have zero depth and outside of the second half of 2022 we've had bad luck with injuries


Who does have depth? We get another OF and our depth starts looking pretty good.
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JohnnyTexAg1995 said:

jja79 said:

You don't think the DBACKS can contend?
if serious about Dbacks, yes they can, but not with bregman haha he just lives there


I didn't know he lived here. I watch them so I hope they do.
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So. Everyone get your bets down.

Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV

I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.
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Mathguy64 said:

So. Everyone get your bets down.

Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV

I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.


I'm going 3 years 30M AAV with an opt out each year

Similar to the Snell San Francisco deal or the Correa twins deal
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I gotta agree. The Yankees cope is kind of wild.

MaxPower
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I actually think the Yanks have been wise to avoid Soto and make those moves. Soto already looks out of shape and is pretty meh in the OF. I could see him aging very poorly with that contract.
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Mathguy64 said:

So. Everyone get your bets down.

Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV

I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.


Boras claims he had an offer higher than the Astros.


Is he lying? Guess we'll find out
texasaggie2015
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Nope. He had one at one point in time. Might still be out there but I don't know
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MaxPower said:

I actually think the Yanks have been wise to avoid Soto and make those moves. Soto already looks out of shape and is pretty meh in the OF. I could see him aging very poorly with that contract.


I could too on 5 years. But he's special on offense.

I think they overpaid Fried then finished off the roster with okay short term options. The 2024 Yankees would kick the 2025 Yankees ass.
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AggiEE said:

Mathguy64 said:

So. Everyone get your bets down.

Does Bregman sign for MORE or LESS than 6/156? That's a $26 MM AAV

I'm going with LESS years and total value but a higher AAV. 3/92 with an opt out at year 1, 2 and 3. And then he opts out at year 1 and tries again.


Boras claims he had an offer higher than the Astros.


Is he lying? Guess we'll find out


Boras was, is, and always will be full of ***** But that's his job.
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When does Boras start losing the faith of his clients?
AggiEE
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I know the guy is a fruit, but what about Joc Pederson as a LH platoon option in the outfield?

He finished the season slashing .281/.392/.531 with an OPS of .923 in 335 at-bats against righties, and racked up 22 home runs in the process.

Is he able to play in the OF or just DH?
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there's no way Soto can live up to his contract -- especially past the age of 30

what is the annual WAR or OPS expectation for a hitter making $50 MM per season?

7.0 WAR and .950 OPS is not enough for that much money

needs to be 8.0 WAR and 1.000 OPS minimum -- and very few players outside the steroid era can do that year in and year out
BadAggie
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So what's the 'Moneyball' path for the rest of the offseason?

 
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