Ornstein still giving vini deal a 50/50 prob
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zgolfz85 said:
Ornstein still giving vini deal a 50/50 prob
I mean we gotta believe he is signing with Real until something concrete happens with us.
Getting somebody like that would be wild.
PJYoung said:zgolfz85 said:
Ornstein still giving vini deal a 50/50 prob
I mean we gotta believe he is signing with Real until something concrete happens with us.
Getting somebody like that would be wild.
apparently RM upped their offer from 19M per year to 22M. He wants 28-30 and we seem willing to go there. He's also owed some type of 10M bonus that we seem willing to eat and that RM will only pay if he re-ups
zgolfz85 said:PJYoung said:zgolfz85 said:
Ornstein still giving vini deal a 50/50 prob
I mean we gotta believe he is signing with Real until something concrete happens with us.
Getting somebody like that would be wild.
apparently RM upped their offer from 19M per year to 22M. He wants 28-30 and we seem willing to go there. He's also owed some type of 10M bonus that we seem willing to eat and that RM will only pay if he re-ups
Image rights have been reported as an issue as well. Who knows?
zgolfz85 said:PJYoung said:zgolfz85 said:
Ornstein still giving vini deal a 50/50 prob
I mean we gotta believe he is signing with Real until something concrete happens with us.
Getting somebody like that would be wild.
apparently RM upped their offer from 19M per year to 22M. He wants 28-30 and we seem willing to go there. He's also owed some type of 10M bonus that we seem willing to eat and that RM will only pay if he re-ups
Am I the only one getting Alex Rodriguez to Texas Rangers vibes? This just seems like a mistake, even with as good as he is...
Except the Rangers weren't good before ARod arrived. He performed fairly well for the Rangers but the cast around him was subpar.
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
Maximus_Meridius said:
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
Sort of. Also, I would not compare the history of the Texas Rangers with that of Arsenal. The Kroenke's have a history of managing their teams fairly well, so I'll trust those in the know.
Bull Meachem said:Maximus_Meridius said:
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
Sort of. Also, I would not compare the history of the Texas Rangers with that of Arsenal. The Kroenke's have a history of managing their teams fairly well, so I'll trust those in the know.
You mean the rangers that made back to back WS in 2010-11 and won it all 3 seasons ago? Yeah, super poorly run
Maximus_Meridius said:
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
I guess the question would be, if you add Vini Jr., what other area needs drastic improvement. I'd wager none other than maybe another right sided defender. Vini seems to be more the last piece of the puzzle rather than the first. He's probably the best LW in the world and thats the one major spot I'd say we are weaker in.
I'm a nervous about what it would mean for the wage structure, but thats what it takes to get into that stratosphere of player these days. None of the guys at the level are without drama. Arsenal seem to be very good at keeping players out of the media spotlight most of the time and hopefully the full Brazilian contingent at Arsenal help him settle in quickly.
I'm still in the believe it when its on Arsenal's website.
zgolfz85 said:Bull Meachem said:Maximus_Meridius said:
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
Sort of. Also, I would not compare the history of the Texas Rangers with that of Arsenal. The Kroenke's have a history of managing their teams fairly well, so I'll trust those in the know.
You mean the rangers that made back to back WS in 2010-11 and won it all 3 seasons ago? Yeah, super poorly run
As a life long Ranger's fan, they have been a joke of an organization outside of five or six seasons in their entirety.
No need keeping up this part of the conversation. I'd hate for anyone, especially Astros fans, get mad and have them say something that would get them banned.
Bull Meachem said:zgolfz85 said:Bull Meachem said:Maximus_Meridius said:
Yeah but they spent so much on ARod that they couldn't afford to make any moves to improve the situation.
Sort of. Also, I would not compare the history of the Texas Rangers with that of Arsenal. The Kroenke's have a history of managing their teams fairly well, so I'll trust those in the know.
You mean the rangers that made back to back WS in 2010-11 and won it all 3 seasons ago? Yeah, super poorly run
As a life long Ranger's fan, they have been a joke of an organization outside of five or six seasons in their entirety.
No need keeping up this part of the conversation. I'd hate for anyone, especially Astros fans, get mad and have them say something that would get them banned.
Same lifelong fan. It's not the best front office, but far from the worst. Baseball is my 5th favorite sport, so being relevant every other year on average is all I ask and getting that WS win was a major checkbox to finally get off our place.
But yes, back to regularly scheduled programming
I'm not worried about the wage stuff too much, other than I feel like it will maybe force Declan out when his contract is coming due. I'm sure he'll want to be in that wage ballpark and semi justifiably so, but I don't think we can afford to go there and he's got a lot more tread on the tires vs the average player his age.
🚨 Real Madrid raise contract offer to Vinicius Junior. Proposal said to reflect 26yo’s importance to #RMFC & project. Decision time for Brazil int’l - renewal, await free agency next summer (club want to avoid) or pursue Arsenal opportunity @TheAthleticFC https://t.co/WvftHt6y84
— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) August 5, 2026
Welp, that's probably that then. Always the outcome I expected.
🚨⚪️ Real Madrid are increasingly confident to receive final green light from Vinicius Jr on new contract.
— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 5, 2026
New proposal being discussed but Madrid optimistic and Vini Jr’s camp also positive after today’s meeting.
José Mourinho also got involved.
🎥➕ https://t.co/fjTyUmqlAw pic.twitter.com/p2nR5iAfM7
Yeah it looks like it. Hand of Arsenal are saying the new offer still isn't quite what Vini wants and its smaller than Arsenal's offer. Ornstein said he feels its still 50/50. Fabrizio says its basically a done deal to re-sign.
Still very much a waiting game. I was never than 15% convinced he'd come here. I think if the offers are anywhere close, he'll stay. But then again he still will be 2nd fiddle to Mbappe and even possibly Jude. Will his ego continue to allow that.
Still very much a waiting game. I was never than 15% convinced he'd come here. I think if the offers are anywhere close, he'll stay. But then again he still will be 2nd fiddle to Mbappe and even possibly Jude. Will his ego continue to allow that.
he can play EPL anytime I'm sure, but not as the face of a team necessarily, especially a brand like AFC. At RM, he's just a guy. At AFC, he's the guy...and face of the league next to Erling and a couple others honestly. Seems like a no brainer. It's not like we're talking about him having to live in Manchester here....it's north London. Madrid is great, or at least used to be. Kind of a mess now....but so is most of Europe now thanks to really good governance lol. He's been to the mountaintop with RM. We may have won the league last year, but we still came in 2nd in CL. That's another nice feather in the cap for his resume if he can with us a CL title.
I'm 30/70 on him joining now, but seems like it's trending away from us.
I'm 30/70 on him joining now, but seems like it's trending away from us.
While I'm not 100% ready to concede Vini..... let's assume he re-signs.... what is our backup plan at this point?
Diomande is off to Real assuming they can wade through the mess that is his agent drama
Barcola seems heading to Pool, though we seemed to have backed off (price tag?)
Godts appears to be PSG bound
The W market seems to be pretty ****ty right now. So where do we turn if Vini opts to stay? Do we stick with Marti and hope Tzolis pans out? Do we go after young potential (and possibly keep Marti to bridge the gap)? Make another run at Yildiz or Nico Williams?
Diomande is off to Real assuming they can wade through the mess that is his agent drama
Barcola seems heading to Pool, though we seemed to have backed off (price tag?)
Godts appears to be PSG bound
The W market seems to be pretty ****ty right now. So where do we turn if Vini opts to stay? Do we stick with Marti and hope Tzolis pans out? Do we go after young potential (and possibly keep Marti to bridge the gap)? Make another run at Yildiz or Nico Williams?
I feel like Marti + Tzolis is manageable if we don't get one of the big fish
Honestly, I'd rather keep Marti another year no matter what and if we add another W, sell Noni. Marti can play both sides and potentially SS/ST and is a much bigger threat on the counter.
edit..... I'd also rather keep Nwaneri around as a RW/AM/SS/F9 option than keep Noni to do nothing at RW.
edit..... I'd also rather keep Nwaneri around as a RW/AM/SS/F9 option than keep Noni to do nothing at RW.
Bruno could help greatly improve Gabi's output. Very similar to Xhaka in terms of passing
If it makes anyone feel better, we're getting our ass kicked by Real Betis
I look at the vini thing with AFC like I do with our RB room for the Ags. Everyone was freaking out when we lost LWC last week in recruiting, but we have an absolute stable of RBs on the roster already. We just upgraded midfield, I'm thinking Tzolis for Leo will mostly be a wash and we still have Gyok....who will hopefully mesh better next season (and just scored 17 last season with a pretty awkward looking dynamic). Ode can't play worse next year, unless he's even more injury riddled and I don't feel like we came close to getting what we could have out of Saka last year. Martinelli can be annoying, but he can also singlehandedly win a game anytime. And, we'll have more seasoning with Calafiori and Hincapie. Maybe we can even have Timber available most of a season...would be nice.
We've got an absolute squad...and still some potential out there for a winger if Vini falls through. Do not give me Alvarez tho...
We've got an absolute squad...and still some potential out there for a winger if Vini falls through. Do not give me Alvarez tho...
also, vini scrubbed his entire IG, including profile pic. not sure what that means, but lol with these diva athletes
Williams does have release clause. He's always been inconsistent, but could be there if we have too
Yeah..... Nico may be the most feasible big name option if he is willing to leave. His salary demand will be on the high side but not near as high as Vini and 77m is a potential steal in this market.
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From what I read (and dealing with media outlets handled by Florentino, you have to read between the lines) it gives me the feeling that Real Madrid believes they won't be able to convince Vincius to renew 5 months before he becomes a free agent, and they intend to squeeze the maximum possible money out of Arsenal. Keep calm...
https://x.com/****_Marin_/status/2085077981156741140?s=20
Change the stars to K I K E
chjoak said:Quote:
From what I read (and dealing with media outlets handled by Florentino, you have to read between the lines) it gives me the feeling that Real Madrid believes they won't be able to convince Vincius to renew 5 months before he becomes a free agent, and they intend to squeeze the maximum possible money out of Arsenal. Keep calm...
https://x.com/****_Marin_/status/2085077981156741140?s=20
Change the stars to K I K E
Yikes, what a wild name
Nm
Don't personally see how they have much leverage (RE squeezing the max out of us). They have zero interest in letting him walk for nothing. Screw around too long and that is exactly what will happen.
Pronounced keekay. Common-ish in Spain.
Its weird. English media are talking like it's 100% over. I've seen nothing that says he's officially rented, just that Madrid have increased their offer.
wangus12 said:
Its weird. English media are talking like it's 100% over. I've seen nothing that says he's officially rented, just that Madrid have increased their offer.
English media a wish-casting. They don't want to see Arsenal get a player of his caliber.
Yeah but it's even Arsenal fans in English media. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he signs here. Must be nice to have infinite money to pay their squad what they do.
The absolute meltdown online over basically media spun news is wild
The absolute meltdown online over basically media spun news is wild
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