Apologies folks. Thought this was posted by Ornstein but it is a fake account. Still think a deal gets done for Bruno.

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According to the New York Times Vinicius Jr turned down Real Madrid's offer of 20 mill per year NET.

That's just below 400k per week AFTER taxes. In England that would mean a pre-tax wage of approx. 700k a week.

Other than City, no team in England will pay those wages.

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According to the New York Times Vinicius Jr turned down Real Madrid's offer of 20 mill per year NET.

That's just below 400k per week AFTER taxes. In England that would mean a pre-tax wage of approx. 700k a week.

Other than City, no team in England will pay those wages.

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Honestly if the City charges are ever resolved they may not pay that either.

According to reports it appears that the club have approved a plan to acquire Vini. I don't think 700k a week is a correct assumption. Not saying that it's going to happen, just that I think a realistic pathway exists.

Tom Canton posed an interesting question on his transfer daily show.

If you could do a deal where Arsenal trades VG + 60mill, for Julian Alvarez…do you do that deal?

It's not my money, so yes

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Tom Canton posed an interesting question on his transfer daily show.

If you could do a deal where Arsenal trades VG + 60mill, for Julian Alvarez…do you do that deal?

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As long as we still prioritize Vini absolutely

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Tom Canton posed an interesting question on his transfer daily show.

If you could do a deal where Arsenal trades VG + 60mill, for Julian Alvarez…do you do that deal?

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Nah. Sell Gyokeres and use that plus the 60 million to buy someone who won't be flirting with Barcelona every summer.

🚨🔴⚪️ Arsenal set for new club to club contacts next week for Bruno Guimarães deal.

Personal terms in place and new approach with Newcastle anticipated to proceed + £70m proposal expected to be improved.

Deal depends on #NUFC decision on exit/price.

🎥 https://t.co/dRrZBt8sme pic.twitter.com/BgYW3sxtXj

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) July 26, 2026

Another one for the future…

🔴⚪️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Arsenal agree deal to sign 16 year old talent Axel Donczew from Cardiff City, here we go!

Donczew became Cardiff City’s youngest ever player in the EFL Trophy in October 2025, now set to sign for Arsenal this week.

16 year old already completed his medical at #AFC. pic.twitter.com/H7IeKWP08k

— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) July 26, 2026

I would do that if we still have the money AFTER a Vini and a Bruno deal. Those are my two top priorities. I kind of think VG (and Havertz) would be a good fit as a target man playing between Vini and Saka. He offers a different type of attacking quality. On the other hand, I could see Vini possibly getting frustrated with VG and his lack of technical skills.

Saw something yesterday that claimed the VG + cash for Alvarez deal is something Atleti offered to Arsenal. Supposedly we aren't considering that option at all. Personally I don't want to get rid of VG. He has some limitations but if we (Saka & MO specifically) can learn to play with him and play to his strengths I think VG could easily be a 30+ goal guy for us. Hell, he's is already a 20+ (all comps) guy in his 1st season when the team was struggling to find his runs.

FWIW some people on the Internet are claiming that every time Orny tweets that Arsenal are "exploring" a deal for X we end up signing X.....

🚨 EXCL: Arsenal exploring move to sign Vinicius Junior from Real Madrid. #AFC interest early stage + clubs not yet in talks but idea approved at all levels. Much rests on contract process as no breakthrough yet & #RMFC do not want free exit @TheAthleticFC https://t.co/qYdS5vlfE6

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) July 25, 2026

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FWIW some people on the Internet are claiming that every time Orny tweets that Arsenal are "exploring" a deal for X we end up signing X.....

🚨 EXCL: Arsenal exploring move to sign Vinicius Junior from Real Madrid. #AFC interest early stage + clubs not yet in talks but idea approved at all levels. Much rests on contract process as no breakthrough yet & #RMFC do not want free exit @TheAthleticFC https://t.co/qYdS5vlfE6

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) July 25, 2026

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Yeah i saw that and somebody else posted a copy of examples of us not signing the player he was talking about in that way. He was like 6 for 8 or something though.

WTF is Chel$ie doing?????

🚨 BREAKING: Chelsea working to sign Jordan Henderson from Brentford. #CFC top contender among multiple PL clubs eyeing England midfielder as #BrentfordFC ready to grant free transfer. Amicable situation + healthy relations between 36yo/club @TheAthleticFC https://t.co/8dOBIcm9g4

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) July 27, 2026

🚨 Chelsea exploring move to sign Danny Welbeck from Brighton & Hove Albion. Terms end 2027 & #BHAFC aware of interest. Early stage but optimism on all sides deal can be done; quality + leadership appeals to Alonso / #CFC @TheAthleticFC post @kierangill_DM https://t.co/wVkn0vcK7h

— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) July 27, 2026

I think Ornstein just usually doesn't report things that aren't serious (and very well sourced) and thus, if he talks about it, there is usually a serious chance it is happening. I don't think he is using secret codes.

At any rate, this feels like a 50/50 thing at best. But here's hoping Arsenal can pull it off.

Chelsea are trying to shoot their shot this year. Hoping they can challenge for a title and at minimum, want to ensure they are back in the Top 4.

There might be some implicit acknowledgement here that their recent model of churning and burning younger players in and out hasn't paid off.

I don't really know that world, but it sure seems like Arsenal is king of unofficial offers and beating around the bush. "Willing to submit it"?

🚨💣 Understand Real Madrid have now sent a counter-offer to Vinicius Jr. and his camp to extend his contract.

Real are hoping to reach an agreement after months of negotiations. The club are aware of Arsenal’s interest.

Arsenal are preparing a first official offer and are… pic.twitter.com/74Y9Rq8QCf

— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) July 27, 2026

Am I the only one that doesn't want vini? Like zero interest personally.

Probably…

I kind of feel like they try to shoot their shot every year. Spend 90-100M on a player and it doesn't work out? No big deal, just sell themselves a hotel or some other scheme and recycle. A bust like Mudryk would cripple most other clubs.

I do think they have a pretty good coach this time around though, so I could actually see them being more successful. I could see City fade assuming they lose Rodri, and perhaps Chelsea take their place.

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Chelsea are trying to shoot their shot this year. Hoping they can challenge for a title and at minimum, want to ensure they are back in the Top 4.

There might be some implicit acknowledgement here that their recent model of churning and burning younger players in and out hasn't paid off.

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And they they have a manager that they seem to be listening to. Bringing in experienced players with good leadership qualities. They have a good squad. Alonso is going to make them a problem again

In regards to Vini Jr, he is absolutely someone we should try to bring in if its possible. We're arguably talking about a top 5 player in the world that would also be going into our weakest position in the squad. Some people are worried about him not fitting into an Arteta squad, but his defensive contributions are pretty much on par with the rest of our attacking players

TL;DR: It's totally fine, considering everything else he'd bring. pic.twitter.com/uKAYXD6scn

— Billy Carpenter (@billycarpy) July 25, 2026

My major concern is that we spend the next month trying to get him in only for him to re-sign with Madrid. I think he's probably 90-95% sure to re-sign with them anyways. The longer we wait for Vini, the fewer LW targets that are available as well as us probably saving funds from other transfers with the idea that we'd need that money for Vini.

Someone on Reddit compiled Vini news from from tier 1 & 2 Real journos......

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Ramon Alvarez de Mon (tier 2) says Madrid and Vini are about 7m euros net (15m euros gross) apart in contract talks, and this hasn't changed for a year now. Abraham Romero (tier 4) on the podcast saying very few clubs have shown interest in Vini as yet, basically just Saudi and Arsenal. Romero is cautious but thinks Vini will re-sign.

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Sergio Valentin (tier 2) is saying Vini wants to renew, Madrid want him to renew, but they've been deadlocked for so long that he thinks he'll be sold. Vini's reps have been delaying and delaying, then Vini wanted to see if his world cup improved his position. The gap between the two parties is very wide, and this hasn't changed so far.
Says Madrid have told Vini's entourage that if there won't be a renewal, he needs to find offers from other clubs. Also says he doesn't think Madrid will be able to sell him for a big fee because they really want to avoid losing him on a free. Madrid sources have told him only three players are untouchable: Mbappe, Jude, and Valverde.

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Mario Cortegana (Tier 1) says as a potential price, perhaps 100m euros might be a guide. He thinks the only way a transfer gets done - assuming he doesn't re-sign - is if Madrid lowers its price. He believes 'approval at all levels' in the Ornstein tweet means Arsenal have contacted Vini's agents to meet the price they're asking.
He suggests that he thinks Madrid have been spooked by the risk of Vini actually leaving, and have gone back into the market for Rodri and Diomande to bolster themselves against that eventuality.
Says both sides will have to give in to reach a compromise, but thinks Madrid's hands are tied. Suggests if Vini doesn't lower his demands, Madrid really can't afford to give him what he's asking for, especially considering the prospect of Bellingham and Mbappe's eventual renewals on the horizon.
Says he's starting to have doubts about his renewal based on how Arsenal are moving, though it's in Vini's hands to make his decision. Says Vini could try to leave on a free, but the Madrid party line is only renewal or sale.

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Am I the only one that doesn't want vini? Like zero interest personally.

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I think you should have more than zero interest but I can understand the worries around it. Still, his quality is probably going to be at a level the next 4 or so years that I think you have to "take him" if you can.

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zgolfz85 said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't want vini? Like zero interest personally.

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I think you should have more than zero interest but I can understand the worries around it. Still, his quality is probably going to be at a level the next 4 or so years that I think you have to "take him" if you can.

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I have no qualms with his quality. I'm just not a fan of the guy as a human being. Would be a tough one to root for. He wouldn't be our first, but I'd prefer to stay out of the vini lottery personally.

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Am I the only one that doesn't want vini? Like zero interest personally.

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I think you should have more than zero interest but I can understand the worries around it. Still, his quality is probably going to be at a level the next 4 or so years that I think you have to "take him" if you can.

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this is where I am. I do not think it happens though.

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Am I the only one that doesn't want vini? Like zero interest personally.

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He is incredibly talented but it's a risk in club roster dynamics for sure.

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Chelsea are trying to shoot their shot this year. Hoping they can challenge for a title and at minimum, want to ensure they are back in the Top 4.

There might be some implicit acknowledgement here that their recent model of churning and burning younger players in and out hasn't paid off.

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Sounds promising

🚨💣 Arsenal are now in advanced talks with Newcastle over Bruno Guimarães, talkSPORT understands. Progress has been made on a verbal agreement north of £75m. ✅🇧🇷 [@JacobsBen] pic.twitter.com/ctQYK3BNnV

— afcstuff (@afcstuff) July 28, 2026

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Chelsea are trying to shoot their shot this year. Hoping they can challenge for a title and at minimum, want to ensure they are back in the Top 4.

There might be some implicit acknowledgement here that their recent model of churning and burning younger players in and out hasn't paid off.

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LOL at Tottenham

No trophies and one toilet bowl of a stadium

was listening to a newcastle insider on talksport and he was sure bruno would be staying at newcastle...guess we'll see whose insiders are more in tune soon

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was listening to a newcastle insider on talksport and he was sure bruno would be staying at newcastle...guess we'll see whose insiders are more in tune soon

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Several Newcastle reporters have been doing the full court press that this hasn't been advancing and Arsenal are playing games and blah blah blah. I wouldn't pay it much attention.

I know you’re lying but I believe you because this is exactly what I was to hear

— Acetyl CoA (@phychem11) July 29, 2026

Sticking my neck out a bit here & definitely not trying to be an ITK, so please don't shoot me if I'm wrong.

Just had a call from a friend who is a photographer for Madrid;

Vini Jr has declined his contract renewal & has asked Madrid to accept Arsenal's offer.

I've been told it's ~110m all in (add-ons etc), with a wage of 350k for Vini, offset by his 100% image rights in the UK.

Again, it's only what I've been told by a buddy. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up too high in case it's not 100% correct.

Just wanted to pass on what I was told.

1) A photographer would have the info because they're part of the media team & if Vini was to accept, then they'd be required to come in the next day, take photos & prep the Official Communication post.
I'm not sure why he knew the specifics of the deal from Arsenal's side but that was what I was given.

2) I don't claim this information to be 100% legitimate. I've known the guy for years through work essentially (I'm also a photographer) so I personally trust what he has to say, but I also know he wasn't exactly sat in the negotiations room. He was told by one of his colleagues too.

3) I'm just as hopeful as the rest of you. That was why I passed the info on.
If it's wrong, then I got fooled too.
If it's not, then we're winning it all.

At the end of the day, I'm still waiting for the Ornstein Bomba like the rest of you before I truly start believing

And then this which I actually believe:

🚨 Mikel Arteta reportedly prefers a move for Nico Williams over Vinicius Junior as Arsenal weigh up attacking reinforcements.

The Arsenal manager believes Williams is a better tactical fit, with his defensive work rate and lower price making him a more attractive option.

Nico… pic.twitter.com/39as1lkjkX

— Transfer News Live (@DeadlineDayLive) July 29, 2026

The Arsenal manager believes Williams is a better tactical fit, with his defensive work rate and lower price making him a more attractive option.

Nico Williams is also open to leaving Athletic Club, while Arsenal continue to assess their options in the transfer market.

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I know you’re lying but I believe you because this is exactly what I was to hear

— Acetyl CoA (@phychem11) July 29, 2026

Sticking my neck out a bit here & definitely not trying to be an ITK, so please don't shoot me if I'm wrong.

Just had a call from a friend who is a photographer for Madrid;

Vini Jr has declined his contract renewal & has asked Madrid to accept Arsenal's offer.

I've been told it's ~110m all in (add-ons etc), with a wage of 350k for Vini, offset by his 100% image rights in the UK.

Again, it's only what I've been told by a buddy. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up too high in case it's not 100% correct.

Just wanted to pass on what I was told.

1) A photographer would have the info because they're part of the media team & if Vini was to accept, then they'd be required to come in the next day, take photos & prep the Official Communication post.
I'm not sure why he knew the specifics of the deal from Arsenal's side but that was what I was given.

2) I don't claim this information to be 100% legitimate. I've known the guy for years through work essentially (I'm also a photographer) so I personally trust what he has to say, but I also know he wasn't exactly sat in the negotiations room. He was told by one of his colleagues too.

3) I'm just as hopeful as the rest of you. That was why I passed the info on.
If it's wrong, then I got fooled too.
If it's not, then we're winning it all.

At the end of the day, I'm still waiting for the Ornstein Bomba like the rest of you before I truly start believing

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If this doesn't happen I'm blaming you and will be devastated…. Jk thank you for passing along! Love the connection. Hoping he's right!