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DG96
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That pic was in Arizona so a little far from me but I would probably try to close the distance too. Friend of a friend is hunting it and he sent me that pic. Got an arrow in it but hit him high. The pic was taken the day after the shot.
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Sounds like a great trip, with one little snag along the way.
shaynew1
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F CVA then.
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I don't even need to worry about AZ. I doubt there's a bull in the state I'd stop to consider passing on, and I'd never even get to see big daddy
DG96
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Yep. Should have went with the Knight for about $400 more. Being a cheap ass got me.
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Ha, fair enough.
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Great trip report. Not chasing elk this year and stories like this only make it more painful.
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Great report, thanks for sharing. Sorry about your CVA. If you are able to refund it, check out the Remington 700 UML. Awesome gun.

I have to agree with AgEng06- there isn't too much on this planet (other than private fence, a 1,000 vertical cliff, or a pillar of fire from hades) that would keep me from going after a bull like that. ESPECIALLY with a smoke pole... Dang, nice bull
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I had a misfire on a 6x6 in NM in the Pecos last year. I've got a CVA Accura MR, and the bore is definitely not loose at the bottom. Only misfire I've ever had with it.
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Since I'm kinda coming out of my post-hunt funk and we're now riding a small wave of pain and misery on the thread, this seems like an appropriate time to tell my story from last week.


Sat, Sept 17 - Hiked in about 4.5 miles to a spot I've seen elk every time I've been there... which is only like 3 or 4 over the last 3 years, but still.

There's food, water, cover and we should be hitting peak rut. Let's do this. For the first 2.5 days I hike my ass off, sending out locator bugles here and there... and nothing. Damn! I know these sonsofbeeteches are here. Fresh sign everywhere but can't get into the elk and they're not talking. Traveling through the timber in this country gets worse every year. The normal deadfall and blowdowns are exacerbated by the beetle kill. Morale is already low, and the good times are not rollin.


Tues morning, Sept 19 - Screw it. I didn't wanna stay in this spot for 7 days, hike my rear off every day, and end up with the same results I've already had. I've still got a deer tag, and I'm gonna hike in another 4 miles to see if I can relocate the buck I missed during opening week.


Tue evening - I glass up my deer. Only 500 yards from camp. Spirits are high again.

(pic from Opening weekend)



Set up camp. Come up with a plan.


Wed/Thurs - Plan fails... not in my happy place.


Thurs around 1pm - Not really sure what to do at this point. I'm outta plans, which have all failed anyway. Mike Tyson is in my head and I'm running short on time.

Thurs 2pm - I'm above treeline... right at 12k and I've wandered about a half mile east to another ridge-line. It connects with the Continental Divide to make a wide, deep and spectacular canyon. Problem is, there's not a lot of cover (only sparse timber patches) and the only other time I've been here I've seen nothing but 1 doe.

I'm kinda kickin around for a while, glassin here and hikin there when I hear what I swear is a bull screaming his head off. Turn to my right and see the herd bull rounding up his 3 cows and 1 calf while trying to fight off the much younger and smaller satellite bull. I'm at least a half mile away from them and the wind is howling pretty good up the mountain and directly in my face.

It was an awesome sight, even though I never got to see a real fight. The younger bull had probably already gotten his ass kicked by this bull or another. He didn't really want any, and quickly ran up the mountain and over the divide. 2 more cows entered the picture from the bottom of the drainage and joined the herd. Now we've got 1 nice 6x6 bull, 5 cows and 1 calf. (2 more cows and 3 calves entered the canyon from the bottom, but never got close to the herd or bull I'm after).

While I'm gawking at the sight before me, I had a little time to text AgEng06 about it on my Garmin, actually ask myself whether it was worth it to try and go after them and even read his response of "what are you waiting for, go kill one of those sonsofbeetches!" By the time his response came, I had already been on the stalk for 30 minutes or so.

Thursday 5pm - 3 hours have passed since I spotted this small herd and nice 6x6. I'm 100 yards from the bull. Some of the cows have started feeding my direction (80 yards out) and towards a little cut to my right. I can't get any closer. Wind is good, but I've got a steep drop off directly in front of me and the brush is already over my head and thicker than eel snot.

Crappy bull pics at 100 yards with cell phone.






Bull feeds closer... range him at 62. With 1 or 2 more steps he'll be behind cover so I cow call him softly. He stops, head and ears forward. I come to full draw, throw out another soft cow call to keep his interest for a bit. Anchor, settle my pin and let 1 fly.

I recognize that sound, but I fear it's a little far back. Wind was stiff and I neglected to ultimately account for it, even though I was aware and had intended to do so. I cow call him immediately after the shot and range his new position... 85 yards and frontal. Didn't stay there long. Never got another arrow downrange.

I'm able to watch this bull follow his cows into the timber at the bottom of this drainage, a little over a half mile away. I glass the bull up as he's going up the mountainside a bit from the bottom of this canyon. I can see that his off leg (left) is painted red on the inside from top to bottom.

Initial blood is not what I'd hoped for, but there's a decent trail working.





My plan from the start was to get a final visual on the bull before he entered the timber, make a mental note of landmarks and hustle ass to get there before it got dark. It took the wounded bull 5 or 6 minutes to go .6 of a mile. He was lagging behind the cows some, probably not much more than what you'd figure as normal, but he never laid down. I was only about 75 minutes off his pace.

Your mental image of the landscape in big western country changes so dramatically when you change your angle and perspective but I was able to pick up the blood trail again pretty easily before he entered the timber, .6 of a mile from the shot.

At this point, I started to pick up better blood and more of it... coughed up and thick blood... a little bit of what appeared to be lung material even and more volume. I was getting pretty optimistic at this point. I knew my shot wasn't great, marginal even, but I figured it was good enough... esp now with the trail I was on.

Pic taken the morning after... I found this blood around 11:30pm the day of the shot (Thursday). After seeing this I was certain the next thing I'd see would be a dead bull. We're now almost a mile from the shot.



I was amazed but the blood trail pretty much died shortly after this 8 foot long swath (above) of blood. The bull was obviously coughing up blood but I could never find a spot where he really slowed, struggled or laid down.
He just kept going.

I marked the last spot of blood with gps and sticks, pulled my bag and e-blanket out of my pack, and got a few hours of really sheetty rest. It was about 1am. Wind was gusting over 40mph at this point. The dead standing timber was rockin'.

The next morning's weather sucked. Overcast with rain and sleet or snow or dippin dot precipitation... whatever the hell that stuff is. Not great conditions for blood trailing. The pic below represents the last really good blood I found. This is 1 mile from the shot. The blood covers about 2+ linear feet.



I stayed on diminishing blood for another 35 yards after this.. and then it just completely went cold.

After that, I just continued on the pathway he had been on... downwards in elevation. After the trail went cold, I checked the nearby creek, main trails in and out of that... and finally.... I pretty much wandered aimlessly for a couple hours.

It sucks. I hate to lose an animal, especially an elk. I hate not recovering or knowing the end of the story, but it's a reality of hunting.

I've had 5 years worth of Colorado archery elk tags. This was the first arrow I've sent downrange at an elk.... not the result I've been dreaming of. Very disappointing and heartbreaking end to an otherwise great trip.

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Been there bro:

2008 NM Trip

Pro tip if you are using Chrome or Firefox: there's a free Photobucket add on that allows pictures to show. Not sure about IE yet.

They are tough animals. The bull I killed in 2007 had a 3-blade Satellite buried in his backstrap (in a ball of scar tissue the size of a tennis ball) on his off side, and a healed over wound halfway back and halfway up his ribcage on his near side (apparently an angling up shot). They can soak up a lot of punishment, so hope for the best.
shaynew1
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Dang. They can be stupid tough.
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That sucks man. That's some rough country to track an animal.
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Sucks, but coyotes gotta eat too. Sounds like you made your best effort to find him, sleeping on the blood trail is dedication. Also think of all the work you avoided, sounds like you were a loooong way from the truck!
Were you bumping him do you think or did he just decide to get out of there when he started bleeding? I have screwed up and bumped an elk 4 miles that would probably have otherwise laid right down and died if I'd let him.
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Tough one man. I can't tell the scale in some of those pics but that looks like decent blood. I have also bumped an elk before that probably would have laid down and died given time. I tracked a diminishing blood trail for almost 5 miles (7 hours). Then he hooked up with another group and the blood trail disappeared. It was pretty gut wrenching, but it happens. Go through your set up, your arrows, your broadheads, your technique, your approach to the stalk and the shot. If there are areas you can refine or improve then do it, otherwise you have to shake it off and move on.
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NRD09 said:

Sucks, but coyotes gotta eat too. Sounds like you made your best effort to find him, sleeping on the blood trail is dedication. Also think of all the work you avoided, sounds like you were a loooong way from the truck!
Were you bumping him do you think or did he just decide to get out of there when he started bleeding? I have screwed up and bumped an elk 4 miles that would probably have otherwise laid right down and died if I'd let him.
I was over 8 miles from the TH... on foot. It's wilderness area so it's limited to foot or animal traffic only. For the record, I never once thought "man, I'm relieved I didn't find this dude". I'd have taken another week off work if I thought it would lead to a recovery. I've had a strategic "haul out plan" for several years.

1. There are multiple outfitters licensed to pack out game. They all beat around the bush before the season and tell you they'll only do it if they're not busy with drop camp hunters. Some act like it's beneath them, but I know they'll do it and odds are I'd be able to find 1 willing and able to shut up and take my $ within an acceptable time frame.

2. Meat preservation in this environment is pretty simple (I didn't say easy) if you know what you're doing.

3. There's an outfit that rents trailers with horses tacked out for DIY packing. It's about 25 miles from the TH. I have a first hand account from a Colorado hunter I met in 2015 who used them. Still stay in touch with the guy. He had no problems or complaints. I've contacted them every year since then to confirm they still provide this service and I've met with them in person a couple times.

I never saw him lay down in the ~ 6/10 of a mile I saw him go before he entered the timber and I never found any evidence that he ever laid down. There's always that question of "do I keep going or back off"? I felt like the combination of the hit (imperfect as it was) and time elapsed coupled with the blood I was finding would lead to a dead elk fairly soon. Hindsight is 20/20 but I would have likely done it the same way, esp if I knew the rain was coming the next morning as it did.


Some other pics I had forgotten about...








Shot a grouse while regrouping on Friday morning after the trail went cold... the only one I saw. I was almost out of food on my person. I had a little bit stashed at my base camp which was several miles away at this point and a little more at my deer bivy camp, which was a half mile and 1200 feet above that. Had to go get that Sat morning before I hiked out. Left with 2 greenbelly packets... didn't mean to cut it that close but that's how it worked out.



Not bad looking.

BradMtn346
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I'm sorry to hear about your story. That stinks. It takes so much to make things go right with elk and so little to make it go wrong. I've seen it with archery and rifle. Sounds like you did everything you could, and that is all you can do. Rain sucks.

I've found, through trial and error, it is usually better to wait if you are not sure about a shot, but again, you had rain coming.

To put it another way, every one I waited on, I found. The ones I've pushed, I didn't find.
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A couple of my hunting companions and I had this dream to hunt moose in western Alaska. Over the counter tags, DIY, no guides, no drop-offs or pick-ups, etc. We found a likely spot where a small town that was also a freight hub bordered a very huntable river. Our plan was to launch from the town and motor upriver as far as we could get. We would then set up camp and hunt up and down the river for 2 weeks with the goal of bringing home 3 moose. One of our group built a boat that could come apart in 5 sections. The sections were each smaller than the last and could "nest" inside of each other. We tested the boat this summer and it worked pretty well for our purposes. We packed all of our gear into a crate that we put in a trailer along with a generator and some chest freezers. We then convinced someone to drive the trailer to Anchorage for us. We covered their fuel and flight back (for him and his wife). From Anchorage the crate was shipped to the town we had selected.


(Our crate with all of our gear packed inside.)


(Our inspiration at the airport in Anchorage)


(We didn't even have to go through security to board this plane)


(A reminder from my wife about how far away I was)

A week after our gear crate had been delivered, we showed up in Western Alaska; none of us having ever set foot in the state previously. We learned some important lessons within hours. The majority of the population of small towns in Alaska are natives. Many natives don't particularly care for outsiders. They are happy to take your money but will hate your guts nonetheless. They consider the big game and other state resources their own personal property despite state game laws. This new knowledge notwithstanding, we unpacked the crate and rented a truck to ferry everything to the dock on the river. At the dock we got our boat put together, got the motor mounted and packed our gear into the boat. We filled our fuel cans and got ready to launch. We ran into a group that had been dropped upriver in rafts and had floated down hunting moose. They had scored one moose among their group of 3. We gathered some intel from them and it was all good stuff; lots of moose up where we were heading. Kinda funny, in talking to one of the guys he said he was from Texas. I said me too, what part? He said Austin area. I said me too, what part? He said, SW Austin. I said me too, what part? Turns out I had gone all the way to Alaska into the middle of nowhere and ran into a guy that lives about 7 miles from my house. We got on the river about 5:00 pm. It doesn't get dark until almost 10 pm so we had a little time to motor. It takes about 26 river miles to get off the tribal lands into land that we can hunt. We saw a couple of cows and a decent bull on the tribal lands. We made about 40 miles upriver before we had to stop and make camp. We set up camp on a gravel bar. In the fading light a bull moose approached our campsite. I didn't have much time to get eyes on him. In retrospect he was probably a shooter, but he caught us unprepared. We made a quick hunt up some of the ridges the across the river the following morning. Saw a couple of cows, but no bulls in sight. We broke camp and kept motoring upriver.


(Unpacking the crate)


(Staging our gear and putting the boat together)


(More boat pieces)


(some scenery)


(Motoring up)

We set up our 2nd camp about 60 miles upriver on another gravel bar. The further upriver we got the less boats we encountered which was our goal. As we were finishing setting camp a boat came by. There were 3 (native guys) who were probably in their 20's. They all got up and glared at me as they motored by. I waved trying to be friendly, they slowed down long enough to yell at me to eff off and showed me their middle fingers. Not very pleasant. We crossed the river that evening and hunted on some of the ridges across from camp. This is where I got my first introduction to the soggy tundra I've heard referred to as Muskeg. Imagine walking on a field of soggy mattresses of varying firmness. One step holds your weight and the next swallows you up to your ankle. Walking on flat ground is exhausting, trying to go uphill in the stuff could kill you. I'm a pretty experienced elk hunter and I can hike all day on flat ground. I kind of figured we could cover some miles while trying to locate moose. Spending an afternoon in the muskeg convinced us that we would have to change our plans and make sure we didn't put a moose down more than a half mile from the river or we could literally spend a week just packing it out.


(Muskeg sucks)


(More scenery)

We glassed up some nice bulls that evening, but nothing close enough to go after. We filed some future hunting locations away in our minds and headed back to the boat. Back at the boat we discovered that someone had stolen all of our fuel. We had maybe one gallon left in the can connected to the motor. The other 25 gallons and gas cans had been stolen. Eff thieves, we assumed it was the guys that had so nicely greeted us previously. At $6/gallon it was already a big loss, but worse yet we were stuck 60 miles upriver with no fuel. We headed back to camp pretty distraught. A little later a boat motored up to our camp. We prepared ourselves for a fight, but it was the (native) guy that we had rented a truck from in town. He just stopped to say hello. He had his wife and son with him and had just shot a nice moose upriver from us. We told him about our fuel situation. He said he would motor back to town and get fuel to bring back to us, but that we would have to pay for his fuel (round trip) as well. In all we would be looking at a $500 bill, but we had come this far it seemed a small price to save our hunt. We agreed and he said he would be back up with fuel in a couple of days.


(Friendlier than most locals...)

The next day we had to hunt close to camp because of our fuel situation. Our morale was low and got worse when we didn't see anything all day. The next day we were expecting to have fuel delivered around 3 pm. So we decided to burn the rest of our fuel motoring upriver. We figured we could just float back to camp. We got to a spot where a bluff rose up out of the river. We parked the boat and hiked to the top of the bluff to glass. A cow came out into the river right below us. Across the river on a ridge we spotted a big bull feeding along the ridge top. I ranged him at 1100 yds. We figured we could close at least 400 of those yards by crossing the river and heading up a small slew on the other side. If we could then close another few hundred yards on land we thought that maybe we could get within rifle range. Much to our dismay the intervening ground was a giant bog. I was wearing my Kenetreks and gaiters up to my knee. At one point I sunk in mud over my knee filling my boots. For a brief, terrifying second I thought I was stuck. During this commotion we bumped a big bull moose just 30 yards in front of us. Given our exertions extricating ourselves from the bog we couldn't even get a shot off. We persevered and eventually got up on the ridge where we had originally seen the big bull, but he had vanished. We were starting to realize that we knew nothing about moose hunting and were obviously doing it wrong. We also recommitted ourselves to staying close to the river because the muskeg and bogs were nearly impassable.





We floated back down to camp and our guy showed up with our fuel which, while expensive, was a huge relief. We had an uneventful evening hunt, but as we were coming back to the boat we heard someone whistling. Not like to get your attention, but just leisurely. A lone guy came floating around the bend in an inflatable raft. We chatted for a minute. He was hunting by himself with his bow. He had been dropped at the headwaters and was floating back to town and hunting as he went. He had a monster moose rack in the front of his raft. He said he would slow down at each bend in the river and cow call. If a bull moose grunted a reply, he would pull over and hunt him. He had had about 5 such encounters with bulls when he decided to shoot the one he did. Apparently he butchered the thing solo, packed it into his raft. He had the cape draped over the top of the raft to dry and he was now leisurely floating back to town. This was his 4th year to do the same trip and he had scored monster moose every year. What a freaking studnew bucket list item created!!


(scenery again)


(Camp 2)

The next day it rained hard almost all day. We managed to get a little work done in camp. Namely, getting a meat pole built and covered with a tarp. We did get out for an evening hunt. We spent most of our time huddled under some pines against the rain. We did see a couple of bulls: one nice one about a mile away and a dink that we could have shot but passed. We were starting to get a little anxious. We had 3 guys and 3 moose tags. We were now 6 days into our hunt with nothing to show for it. We had planned to hunt a full 2 weeks, but even so we started to feel some urgency to get moose on the ground. We decided the next day we would motor about 10 or so miles upriver. We would float back to camp and cow call at every turn.


(Meat pole getting ready to do some work)

It was cold that morning with a light mist and a heavy fog. We motored up about 10 miles at first light. We pulled off into a little slew and cut the motor planning to get our hands warm for a minute. We let out a cow call and what do you knowwe heard a grunt. My brother and I bailed out of the boat onto the river bank and John stayed with the boat. We hiked up to a bend in this side channel calling but didn't get any further reply. Through the mist I could just make out a set of antlers in the mist moving along the opposite bank away from us. After the bog incident we both had decided to wear our chest waders from then on, so we cut through a marshy area to be able to see down the side channel a little further. There he was on the opposite bank looking behind him. It was tough to keep my optics clear with the mist and the fog but he looked like a pretty good bull. Only 2 brow tines on one side and 3 on the other, but they had a lot of mass. We did some quick calculating using my rifle scope and figured he had to be at least 50 inches. It was a quick decision, but given our previously mentioned anxiety to get a bull down I decided to shoot. It was 120 yards without a rest, but my first shot seemed to hit him pretty hard. He ran down into the river in water half way up his front shoulder. I was sizing him up for another shot when I see movement behind him on the bank and out walks another bull moose his same size or even a little bigger. I stared dumbly for a second processing what was going on, my brother turned and asked for my rifle. The next thing I knew, BOOM. The second moose was hit and then finished off with a second shot. At this point my moose had gotten back to the bank so I hit him again and he lay down. We got our bearings for a second, and then my brother headed back to the boat to get John. I watched my moose for a bit and his head was still up. After 20 minutes he tried to get up, so I steadied up and finished him off with one last shot. Within minutes we now had TWO fifty-plus inch moose (and a lot of work) laying on the river bank within 30 yards of each other. Our best guess is that, with the rut in full swing, these two were squaring up for a fight in response to our initial cow call which would explain why the second one kept coming despite our shooting. The shooting was done by 10:00 AM and we started working. It took us all day to get them skinned, quartered, neck meat, rib meat, back-straps and tender loins loaded up and back to camp and hung on our previously constructed meat pole. I bathed in the river that evening. It was cold but felt good after 10 hours of heavy labor. Slept like a baby that night.


(My bull down)


(Boat with 2 moose)

The next day Joel stayed in camp to work on capes and take care of meat. I went with John and we hunted upriver again. We saw so much wildlife: bald eagles, beaver, lynx, black bears, grizzly bears, river otters, but no moose. I about called myself hoarse on the float back to camp. For lunch we cooked moose tenderloin over a fire. It was awesome. I like elk, but it still has a little gamey after taste .This moose had none, it was like delicious lean beef. Best game I've ever eaten. I'd take it over beef. We ate a whole tenderloin for lunch, one loin probably weighed 6 pounds if you can imagine. That evening John and I motored back upriver and called our way back again. At one turn in the river we got a moose to grunt in response. We tied up on the river bank and called back and forth. I raked to trees next to us and grunted back. The moose seemed to get pretty jacked up at that. He was grunting back to back just seconds apart. He would seem to get closer then fade away. We played this cat and mouse game for about 40 minutes. It sounded like he was just upriver from us and we kept hoping he would show himself on the opposite bank. Then he went silent. It was almost dark so we decided to motor up around the bend and see if we could see anything. We got up there and killed the motor. I let out my ****tiest cow call and this bull immediately started back up just upriver from us. I turned around and he came busting out of the trees and charged part way into the river. John looked him over from the boat and decided he wanted to try to take him. He bailed out of the boat and got propped up with his back against the river bank. I bailed onto the cut bank nearly losing the boat and gave another call. The moose was almost to the our side of the bank when John shot. He ended up shooting 3 times (all sounded like good hits) and then the moose was out of sight. We got in the boat and motored up to him. He was still alive and John finished him off. Another 50 plus inch bull was down. We had a quandary now, because it was almost dark. We hated to leave him but the river isn't easily navigable in the dark. We decided to head back to camp and get a fresh start the next morning. Unfortunately, we ran out of fuel on our way back to camp and so it was almost 2 hours after dark when we finally floated back. (We had more fuel in camp, we had been stashing our extra fuel away from the boat since the theft previously).


(Floating back)

The next morning we all headed up and got John's bull squared away. We got all of the meat hung, stripped and cleaned game bags and put on fresh ones, worked on capes, skull capped antlers and got ready to start motoring out the following day.


(Moose Processing)


(Meat pole, fully loaded)


(3 Moose, mission accomplished)

We got up early the next morning and broke camp. We loaded up all our gear and all of our meat. The trip back was going to be interesting because we were loaded down with 3 moose. We had a separate inflatable that we used for meat and gear. Our motoring speed was about 5 MPH. It was going to take us 2 days to motor back. We left the boats loaded and camped right on the shore that night and made it back to town the following afternoon. This is already long enough so I won't belabor the rest of the details of getting our cargo loaded up and getting back to Anchorage. Luckily, return freight from these small towns is way cheaper than freight to them so we got all of our meat and antlers and gear back to Anchorage without any major issues.


(Packing up)


(Fully Loaded)


(Camp 3)

Overall, it was a pretty epic hunt for me. I learned a lot and got my first experience with Alaska under my belt. My plan is to go back sometime in the near future and do a float trip like that solo guy and hold out for a true monster. After camping for almost 2 weeks I woke up in my own bed in the middle of the night yesterday feeling the edge of my mattress wondering why there was so much extra room. I also woke up thinking I was in a boat at one point. I was out on the deck today grilling and I saw something in the trees in the greenbelt behind my house. I instinctively reached for my binosthinking they would be in my harness on my chest. I'm glad to be home and see my family but I still feel like a caged animal sometimes and still long to be OUTDOORS.

TLDR:
Three idiots flew 3,000 miles then motored upriver 70 miles into the middle of nowhere in a home-made boat in search of moose. They DIY hunted and killed 3 moose.
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WEll if that's not the most impressive read for the rest of the year then someone has really done something. Way to go on the DIY. I'm sure it wasn't cheap but good to know you did it on your own.
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Fantastic writeup.
Lungblood
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Nice Moose. Great adventure.
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Helluva hunt man!

It's interesting to find out about the locals...I would have never seen that coming and got robbed myself.
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Helluva hunt indeed!

Not to derail, but i'm interested in seeing more about the boat. When time permits, I'd be grateful for another thread on it. Been thinking about doing something similar, on a smaller scale though (the boat, not the hunt I mean).
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Awesome story and hunt, congrats!
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Awesome write up! Would love to do a trip like that!
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Seriously epic hunt! Congratulations on going for 3 for 3. Truly a hunt of a lifetime. And eff those thieves, they could've got you guys killed. Pissed me off reading that.

agingcowboy said:

After camping for almost 2 weeks I woke up in my own bed in the middle of the night yesterday feeling the edge of my mattress wondering why there was so much extra room. I also woke up thinking I was in a boat at one point. I was out on the deck today grilling and I saw something in the trees in the greenbelt behind my house. I instinctively reached for my bino sthinking they would be in my harness on my chest.
Great detail, definitely mission accomplished from the trip. I also liked the screenshot from your wife. I can identify with that one.

Thanks for sharing! I've updated my bucket list as well
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Awesome...Congrats!
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Congratulations! What an awesome adventure! Adding that to my bucket list! Let me know if you are in Houston and need someone to feed you beers and pry you for details...
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That's awesome man! Helluva trip.
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I just got to read this and what a great trip! If you're able to do something like this every year you might even survive the family decision to leave God's country to move back South.

Well done sir!
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How did you get meat back from Anchorage? ON the airline?
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Trips like this are the only thing keeping me from banging a for sale sign in my yard and heading back West. Well, that and my family.

One of our guys had his truck and trailer in Anchorage (with generators and freezers). He drew the short straw and is driving our meat and antlers back. All 1800 lbs of it.
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agingcowboy said:


One of our guys had his truck and trailer in Anchorage (with generators and freezers). He drew the short straw and is driving our meat and antlers back. All 1800 lbs of it.


I can't decide if I'm jealous or feel sorry for him. Leaning towards jealous since all tags punched and once in a lifetime drive.
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Awesome hunt, story and write up! Very jealous.
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agingcowboy said:

A couple of my hunting companions and I had this dream to hunt moose in western Alaska. Over the counter tags, DIY, no guides, no drop-offs or pick-ups, etc. We found a likely spot where a small town that was also a freight hub bordered a very huntable river. Our plan was to launch from the town and motor upriver as far as we could get. We would then set up camp and hunt up and down the river for 2 weeks with the goal of bringing home 3 moose. One of our group built a boat that could come apart in 5 sections. The sections were each smaller than the last and could "nest" inside of each other. We tested the boat this summer and it worked pretty well for our purposes. We packed all of our gear into a crate that we put in a trailer along with a generator and some chest freezers. We then convinced someone to drive the trailer to Anchorage for us. We covered their fuel and flight back (for him and his wife). From Anchorage the crate was shipped to the town we had selected.


(Our crate with all of our gear packed inside.)


(Our inspiration at the airport in Anchorage)


(We didn't even have to go through security to board this plane)


(A reminder from my wife about how far away I was)

A week after our gear crate had been delivered, we showed up in Western Alaska; none of us having ever set foot in the state previously. We learned some important lessons within hours. The majority of the population of small towns in Alaska are natives. Many natives don't particularly care for outsiders. They are happy to take your money but will hate your guts nonetheless. They consider the big game and other state resources their own personal property despite state game laws. This new knowledge notwithstanding, we unpacked the crate and rented a truck to ferry everything to the dock on the river. At the dock we got our boat put together, got the motor mounted and packed our gear into the boat. We filled our fuel cans and got ready to launch. We ran into a group that had been dropped upriver in rafts and had floated down hunting moose. They had scored one moose among their group of 3. We gathered some intel from them and it was all good stuff; lots of moose up where we were heading. Kinda funny, in talking to one of the guys he said he was from Texas. I said me too, what part? He said Austin area. I said me too, what part? He said, SW Austin. I said me too, what part? Turns out I had gone all the way to Alaska into the middle of nowhere and ran into a guy that lives about 7 miles from my house. We got on the river about 5:00 pm. It doesn't get dark until almost 10 pm so we had a little time to motor. It takes about 26 river miles to get off the tribal lands into land that we can hunt. We saw a couple of cows and a decent bull on the tribal lands. We made about 40 miles upriver before we had to stop and make camp. We set up camp on a gravel bar. In the fading light a bull moose approached our campsite. I didn't have much time to get eyes on him. In retrospect he was probably a shooter, but he caught us unprepared. We made a quick hunt up some of the ridges the across the river the following morning. Saw a couple of cows, but no bulls in sight. We broke camp and kept motoring upriver.


(Unpacking the crate)


(Staging our gear and putting the boat together)


(More boat pieces)


(some scenery)


(Motoring up)

We set up our 2nd camp about 60 miles upriver on another gravel bar. The further upriver we got the less boats we encountered which was our goal. As we were finishing setting camp a boat came by. There were 3 (native guys) who were probably in their 20's. They all got up and glared at me as they motored by. I waved trying to be friendly, they slowed down long enough to yell at me to eff off and showed me their middle fingers. Not very pleasant. We crossed the river that evening and hunted on some of the ridges across from camp. This is where I got my first introduction to the soggy tundra I've heard referred to as Muskeg. Imagine walking on a field of soggy mattresses of varying firmness. One step holds your weight and the next swallows you up to your ankle. Walking on flat ground is exhausting, trying to go uphill in the stuff could kill you. I'm a pretty experienced elk hunter and I can hike all day on flat ground. I kind of figured we could cover some miles while trying to locate moose. Spending an afternoon in the muskeg convinced us that we would have to change our plans and make sure we didn't put a moose down more than a half mile from the river or we could literally spend a week just packing it out.


(Muskeg sucks)


(More scenery)

We glassed up some nice bulls that evening, but nothing close enough to go after. We filed some future hunting locations away in our minds and headed back to the boat. Back at the boat we discovered that someone had stolen all of our fuel. We had maybe one gallon left in the can connected to the motor. The other 25 gallons and gas cans had been stolen. Eff thieves, we assumed it was the guys that had so nicely greeted us previously. At $6/gallon it was already a big loss, but worse yet we were stuck 60 miles upriver with no fuel. We headed back to camp pretty distraught. A little later a boat motored up to our camp. We prepared ourselves for a fight, but it was the (native) guy that we had rented a truck from in town. He just stopped to say hello. He had his wife and son with him and had just shot a nice moose upriver from us. We told him about our fuel situation. He said he would motor back to town and get fuel to bring back to us, but that we would have to pay for his fuel (round trip) as well. In all we would be looking at a $500 bill, but we had come this far it seemed a small price to save our hunt. We agreed and he said he would be back up with fuel in a couple of days.


(Friendlier than most locals...)

The next day we had to hunt close to camp because of our fuel situation. Our morale was low and got worse when we didn't see anything all day. The next day we were expecting to have fuel delivered around 3 pm. So we decided to burn the rest of our fuel motoring upriver. We figured we could just float back to camp. We got to a spot where a bluff rose up out of the river. We parked the boat and hiked to the top of the bluff to glass. A cow came out into the river right below us. Across the river on a ridge we spotted a big bull feeding along the ridge top. I ranged him at 1100 yds. We figured we could close at least 400 of those yards by crossing the river and heading up a small slew on the other side. If we could then close another few hundred yards on land we thought that maybe we could get within rifle range. Much to our dismay the intervening ground was a giant bog. I was wearing my Kenetreks and gaiters up to my knee. At one point I sunk in mud over my knee filling my boots. For a brief, terrifying second I thought I was stuck. During this commotion we bumped a big bull moose just 30 yards in front of us. Given our exertions extricating ourselves from the bog we couldn't even get a shot off. We persevered and eventually got up on the ridge where we had originally seen the big bull, but he had vanished. We were starting to realize that we knew nothing about moose hunting and were obviously doing it wrong. We also recommitted ourselves to staying close to the river because the muskeg and bogs were nearly impassable.





We floated back down to camp and our guy showed up with our fuel which, while expensive, was a huge relief. We had an uneventful evening hunt, but as we were coming back to the boat we heard someone whistling. Not like to get your attention, but just leisurely. A lone guy came floating around the bend in an inflatable raft. We chatted for a minute. He was hunting by himself with his bow. He had been dropped at the headwaters and was floating back to town and hunting as he went. He had a monster moose rack in the front of his raft. He said he would slow down at each bend in the river and cow call. If a bull moose grunted a reply, he would pull over and hunt him. He had had about 5 such encounters with bulls when he decided to shoot the one he did. Apparently he butchered the thing solo, packed it into his raft. He had the cape draped over the top of the raft to dry and he was now leisurely floating back to town. This was his 4th year to do the same trip and he had scored monster moose every year. What a freaking studnew bucket list item created!!


(scenery again)


(Camp 2)

The next day it rained hard almost all day. We managed to get a little work done in camp. Namely, getting a meat pole built and covered with a tarp. We did get out for an evening hunt. We spent most of our time huddled under some pines against the rain. We did see a couple of bulls: one nice one about a mile away and a dink that we could have shot but passed. We were starting to get a little anxious. We had 3 guys and 3 moose tags. We were now 6 days into our hunt with nothing to show for it. We had planned to hunt a full 2 weeks, but even so we started to feel some urgency to get moose on the ground. We decided the next day we would motor about 10 or so miles upriver. We would float back to camp and cow call at every turn.


(Meat pole getting ready to do some work)

It was cold that morning with a light mist and a heavy fog. We motored up about 10 miles at first light. We pulled off into a little slew and cut the motor planning to get our hands warm for a minute. We let out a cow call and what do you knowwe heard a grunt. My brother and I bailed out of the boat onto the river bank and John stayed with the boat. We hiked up to a bend in this side channel calling but didn't get any further reply. Through the mist I could just make out a set of antlers in the mist moving along the opposite bank away from us. After the bog incident we both had decided to wear our chest waders from then on, so we cut through a marshy area to be able to see down the side channel a little further. There he was on the opposite bank looking behind him. It was tough to keep my optics clear with the mist and the fog but he looked like a pretty good bull. Only 2 brow tines on one side and 3 on the other, but they had a lot of mass. We did some quick calculating using my rifle scope and figured he had to be at least 50 inches. It was a quick decision, but given our previously mentioned anxiety to get a bull down I decided to shoot. It was 120 yards without a rest, but my first shot seemed to hit him pretty hard. He ran down into the river in water half way up his front shoulder. I was sizing him up for another shot when I see movement behind him on the bank and out walks another bull moose his same size or even a little bigger. I stared dumbly for a second processing what was going on, my brother turned and asked for my rifle. The next thing I knew, BOOM. The second moose was hit and then finished off with a second shot. At this point my moose had gotten back to the bank so I hit him again and he lay down. We got our bearings for a second, and then my brother headed back to the boat to get John. I watched my moose for a bit and his head was still up. After 20 minutes he tried to get up, so I steadied up and finished him off with one last shot. Within minutes we now had TWO fifty-plus inch moose (and a lot of work) laying on the river bank within 30 yards of each other. Our best guess is that, with the rut in full swing, these two were squaring up for a fight in response to our initial cow call which would explain why the second one kept coming despite our shooting. The shooting was done by 10:00 AM and we started working. It took us all day to get them skinned, quartered, neck meat, rib meat, back-straps and tender loins loaded up and back to camp and hung on our previously constructed meat pole. I bathed in the river that evening. It was cold but felt good after 10 hours of heavy labor. Slept like a baby that night.


(My bull down)


(Boat with 2 moose)

The next day Joel stayed in camp to work on capes and take care of meat. I went with John and we hunted upriver again. We saw so much wildlife: bald eagles, beaver, lynx, black bears, grizzly bears, river otters, but no moose. I about called myself hoarse on the float back to camp. For lunch we cooked moose tenderloin over a fire. It was awesome. I like elk, but it still has a little gamey after taste .This moose had none, it was like delicious lean beef. Best game I've ever eaten. I'd take it over beef. We ate a whole tenderloin for lunch, one loin probably weighed 6 pounds if you can imagine. That evening John and I motored back upriver and called our way back again. At one turn in the river we got a moose to grunt in response. We tied up on the river bank and called back and forth. I raked to trees next to us and grunted back. The moose seemed to get pretty jacked up at that. He was grunting back to back just seconds apart. He would seem to get closer then fade away. We played this cat and mouse game for about 40 minutes. It sounded like he was just upriver from us and we kept hoping he would show himself on the opposite bank. Then he went silent. It was almost dark so we decided to motor up around the bend and see if we could see anything. We got up there and killed the motor. I let out my ****tiest cow call and this bull immediately started back up just upriver from us. I turned around and he came busting out of the trees and charged part way into the river. John looked him over from the boat and decided he wanted to try to take him. He bailed out of the boat and got propped up with his back against the river bank. I bailed onto the cut bank nearly losing the boat and gave another call. The moose was almost to the our side of the bank when John shot. He ended up shooting 3 times (all sounded like good hits) and then the moose was out of sight. We got in the boat and motored up to him. He was still alive and John finished him off. Another 50 plus inch bull was down. We had a quandary now, because it was almost dark. We hated to leave him but the river isn't easily navigable in the dark. We decided to head back to camp and get a fresh start the next morning. Unfortunately, we ran out of fuel on our way back to camp and so it was almost 2 hours after dark when we finally floated back. (We had more fuel in camp, we had been stashing our extra fuel away from the boat since the theft previously).


(Floating back)

The next morning we all headed up and got John's bull squared away. We got all of the meat hung, stripped and cleaned game bags and put on fresh ones, worked on capes, skull capped antlers and got ready to start motoring out the following day.


(Moose Processing)


(Meat pole, fully loaded)


(3 Moose, mission accomplished)

We got up early the next morning and broke camp. We loaded up all our gear and all of our meat. The trip back was going to be interesting because we were loaded down with 3 moose. We had a separate inflatable that we used for meat and gear. Our motoring speed was about 5 MPH. It was going to take us 2 days to motor back. We left the boats loaded and camped right on the shore that night and made it back to town the following afternoon. This is already long enough so I won't belabor the rest of the details of getting our cargo loaded up and getting back to Anchorage. Luckily, return freight from these small towns is way cheaper than freight to them so we got all of our meat and antlers and gear back to Anchorage without any major issues.


(Packing up)


(Fully Loaded)


(Camp 3)

Overall, it was a pretty epic hunt for me. I learned a lot and got my first experience with Alaska under my belt. My plan is to go back sometime in the near future and do a float trip like that solo guy and hold out for a true monster. After camping for almost 2 weeks I woke up in my own bed in the middle of the night yesterday feeling the edge of my mattress wondering why there was so much extra room. I also woke up thinking I was in a boat at one point. I was out on the deck today grilling and I saw something in the trees in the greenbelt behind my house. I instinctively reached for my binosthinking they would be in my harness on my chest. I'm glad to be home and see my family but I still feel like a caged animal sometimes and still long to be OUTDOORS.

TLDR:
Three idiots flew 3,000 miles then motored upriver 70 miles into the middle of nowhere in a home-made boat in search of moose. They DIY hunted and killed 3 moose.




I love this thread but damn this hunt needs its own thread!!!!
 
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