Western States Draw Deadlines: 2017
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Last: 6 yr ago by AgEng06
You've entrusted your hunting future to the United States Postal Service?shaynew1 said:
chill winston... i just need the mailman to bring me some bullets and its on
I live on the edge. Its hard to find thrills in the offseason, so sometimes you have to manufacture them.
"Manufactured Fun" is my specialty.
For you other elk horny fools out there:
I'm wearing this shirt today, and my 5-yr old asked if the elk on it was howling...
So I showed her this video, and explained what a bugle was...
Now she thinks they are as awesome as I do.
I'm wearing this shirt today, and my 5-yr old asked if the elk on it was howling...
So I showed her this video, and explained what a bugle was...
Now she thinks they are as awesome as I do.
Elk bugles are a myth.
Smart kid
Until you have one bugle at your buddy, which then comes in to stomp his a$$, and you center punch him.Sean98 said:
Elk bugles are a myth.
Colorado second rifle last year. Rut should have been long over. We leave base camp (3 miles in from the trailhead) at 4:40am to get to a ridge no one has been dumb enough to try and hunt (according to the wranglers). We're 50 yards short at first light and hear bugles. My hunting partner is depressed and declares another hunter beat us there.
I decided if someone else is crazy enough to beat us there and sounds that good bugling, I want to shake his hand. We get to the top and it turns out it was 3 different bulls and a second rut is on. My bull comes over the next ridge pushing 8 cows bugling his head off at two satellite bulls. My season is over at 8:15am opening morning.
My bull wasn't huge. In fact he was just a barely legal 4x5. But I'm not sure anything will ever top that.
I decided if someone else is crazy enough to beat us there and sounds that good bugling, I want to shake his hand. We get to the top and it turns out it was 3 different bulls and a second rut is on. My bull comes over the next ridge pushing 8 cows bugling his head off at two satellite bulls. My season is over at 8:15am opening morning.
My bull wasn't huge. In fact he was just a barely legal 4x5. But I'm not sure anything will ever top that.
There was something addicting about that country.
I slogged 2.5 miles up and down saturated blackland w 50 lbs to miss a piglet and lose an arrow. Couldn't get on anything bigger.
I'm counting it as a workout. Re: shooting I think it was productive. Just have many more times to go before I fling one at my 400" Gila bull. Or barely legal 3x4. Whichever.
I'm counting it as a workout. Re: shooting I think it was productive. Just have many more times to go before I fling one at my 400" Gila bull. Or barely legal 3x4. Whichever.
Looks like dad and I are applying for muzzleloader tags in 18. Probably deer and elk to have options. Still building points on the first choice so we can do one high altitude early rifle before he decides he can't do that kind of hunting anymore.
Deadline is tomorrow... why do I always wait till the last minute?
Just deer points for me this go 'round.
should have gotten a good lawyer... Wait, wrong Ag06.AgEng06 said:
Just deer points for me this go 'round.
I put in for the deers but I really just want to kill elk.
Just getting points for Deer and Elk. Hopefully do some archery elk and 3rd rifle mule deer in a couple years.
harge57 said:
Right now I am looking at unit 81, 84, and 85 in Wyoming if anyone has any advice they want to offer up.
We will be hunting the end of bow season into rifle season. 9/17 to 9/30.
My wife and I spotted about 300 head this past weekend in unit 84. They were hanging out in the Camp Creek and Poison Creek areas and will likely head east as the snow line recedes. It looks like most of the herd fared well during the harsh winter we've had.
Decided to do my deer tags as a group draw because I'm dumb and listen to other people (I'm the party leader). Found out this morning, the guy who convinced me of this then proceeded to put in differently than i did (2nd and 3rd choices), so now I have to try to change my application I submitted last week.
So despite my best efforts to proceed without my friends, they still drug me down. Next year, I'm going 100% solo. Hard to find reliable friends when it comes to hunting.
So despite my best efforts to proceed without my friends, they still drug me down. Next year, I'm going 100% solo. Hard to find reliable friends when it comes to hunting.
It's not hard. It's impossible.Quote:
Hard to find reliable friends when it comes to hunting.
No one is going to take it as seriously as you do and you can only go as fast as the slowest person in the group.
I have 1 old school good buddy that I've been friends with since the first grade who I'll still go on long drive backcountry trips with... up to a point. I just know that when I show up to his house, instead of grabbing gear and loading up in 10 minutes, it's going to be a 2-3 hour ordeal.
Agreed. I have one friend who takes it as seriously as I do. Unfortunately, he lives in TX so it doesn't always work out for hunting now that I'm in CO. And we have differing views on hunting styles. I like miserable backpacking trips and he likes a base camp and lots of extra gadgets.
I think I made a friend midway thru last elk season who seems fairly reliable. We'll see during this upcoming scouting season.
I met my fiancee on Tinder, maybe I should make a hunting partner app
I think I made a friend midway thru last elk season who seems fairly reliable. We'll see during this upcoming scouting season.
I met my fiancee on Tinder, maybe I should make a hunting partner app
So... stupid last minute draw question here.
I have 1 pp for mule deer. I've drawn this particular unit for archery deer before with just 1 pp. Stats show I have a 90% chance of drawing with 1 pp as a non res. Great, that's great.
I don't know how but I just realized that you can apply for a pp as your first choice, then actually apply for a hunt on 2nd, 3rd, etc.
Can you actually draw with your second choice AND bank a point? Where on the Colo site can I find my chances of drawing that tag as a 2nd choice. This is so stupid. I just wanna hunt.
I have 1 pp for mule deer. I've drawn this particular unit for archery deer before with just 1 pp. Stats show I have a 90% chance of drawing with 1 pp as a non res. Great, that's great.
I don't know how but I just realized that you can apply for a pp as your first choice, then actually apply for a hunt on 2nd, 3rd, etc.
Can you actually draw with your second choice AND bank a point? Where on the Colo site can I find my chances of drawing that tag as a 2nd choice. This is so stupid. I just wanna hunt.
I can give you some ideas when I get back to my computer in a couple hours.
Don't know about banking, but I think gohunt has second choice odds. I'll check if you divulge unit
77... I always vowed to keep this draw nonsense simple but I guess Im getting greedy.
Thanks
Thanks
It is my understanding that you can.
Yes you can. It's what I'm doing this year as I realized it as well.
The odds are all buried in the draw data listed here
Colorado Draw Odds
Now you'll have to dig thru and look at the specific hunt codes to determine where they are "drawn out" at. This is located in the grey box on the right side. It will have box for drawn out at and then list something like "3 Pref Points" then beneath it will have what % of people who had that as their 3rd choice drew that tag.
The odds are all buried in the draw data listed here
Colorado Draw Odds
Now you'll have to dig thru and look at the specific hunt codes to determine where they are "drawn out" at. This is located in the grey box on the right side. It will have box for drawn out at and then list something like "3 Pref Points" then beneath it will have what % of people who had that as their 3rd choice drew that tag.
Yeah... Has to be the case.... Otherwise, what's the point of putting hunt choices behind a pp as first choice?
I really wanna check my odds to draw on 2nd choice.... That's the greedy part of me coming out. I'm Prob not willing to go below 75%... Really wanna crack at those high country muleys I saw in '15.
I really wanna check my odds to draw on 2nd choice.... That's the greedy part of me coming out. I'm Prob not willing to go below 75%... Really wanna crack at those high country muleys I saw in '15.
Gohunt has nonres 2nd choice 77 archery at 0.0% but I'd verify on colorados website
77 for archery or rifle?
In 2016 odds were for a non resident:
91% for 1 Pref point during archery
14% for 0 Pref point for 2nd rifle
7% for 1 Pref point during 3rd rifle
8% for 3 pref point during 4th
So if you were going as a non resident, you'd better have it as a 1st choice otherwise you're not gonna get drawn. It's only really worth doing if it lists 2nd choice, 3rd choice, or leftover as the drawn out level
In 2016 odds were for a non resident:
91% for 1 Pref point during archery
14% for 0 Pref point for 2nd rifle
7% for 1 Pref point during 3rd rifle
8% for 3 pref point during 4th
So if you were going as a non resident, you'd better have it as a 1st choice otherwise you're not gonna get drawn. It's only really worth doing if it lists 2nd choice, 3rd choice, or leftover as the drawn out level
77 archery 1pp as nr
shaynew1 said:
Gohunt has nonres 2nd choice 77 archery at 0.0% but I'd verify on colorados website
Ha... I figured it be a little better than that.
Thanks for the help.
So yeah, 0.0% as a 2nd choice is correct...edited above post with your odds
Not sure if it matters but gohunt doesn't give you an option to input your number of pp into 2nd choice odds
Looks like 38% chance for second choice in unit 36.
That's a 100% zero pp nonresident archery unit for reference.
That's a 100% zero pp nonresident archery unit for reference.
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