Outdoors
Sponsored by

Western States Draw Deadlines: 2017

178,079 Views | 1605 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by AgEng06
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
pace yourself sonny
ursusguy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
When I shot my bull, my cousin blew a shot on a cow. Granted, it was 475 yards. Had we been 5 seconds faster on two other occasions, we would have gone 3/3.....then the elk went poof.

Actually, if my cousin didn't walk around with his scope cranked all the way up, 2/3 would have been a given.
AgLA06
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I stand corrected. We should have been 5/5.

It's amazing how many things can go wrong when you should have killed an animal.
A.G.S.
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
How can I pace myself? I only have 33 weeks to get ready!

And I wish I could still be referred to as sonny, would make staying in shape a lot easier.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A.G.S. said:

How can I pace myself? I only have 33 weeks to get ready!

And I wish I could still be referred to as sonny, would make staying in shape a lot easier.


I spend all my enthusiasm on energy for work and don't have much left over for fitness purposes.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
^

That's worse than holding in a fart.

Don't trust a fart after 40 is what I've always heard.
A.G.S.
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Lungblood said:

^

That's worse than holding in a fart.

NEVER trust a fart after 40 is what I've always heard.
FIFY
A.G.S.
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I don't work in a job where I need enthusiasm (or could even find any use for) enthusiasm sadly.

I have to find other things to be enthusiastic about, lest I lose my ability to be enthusiastic at all.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
It's ok. I have a tailored fitness plan of eating the previous years elk entirely and absorbing his spirit to help me hunt down his enemies. Or family. Or whatever I plan on killing.
A.G.S.
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nice. No elk yet (obviously) but I eat venison as much as possible. Gonna have to mix a bunch of hog in this year, since I only got 1 deer last year, and my wife has developed an affinity for it as well now.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Then elk should be an easy sell as well as subsequent elk hunts
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
shaynew1 said:

It's ok. I have a tailored fitness plan of eating the previous years elk entirely and absorbing his spirit to help me hunt down his enemies. Or family. Or whatever I plan on killing.
Straight up savage style.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The real question is- if I draw a Gila tag do I carry on w the recurve? I think I got to. How much more powerful will traditional elk make me?
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
shaynew1 said:

The real question is- if I draw a Gila tag do I carry on w the recurve? I think I got to. How much more powerful will traditional elk make me?
Enough to get away with wearing a loincloth every day.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Lungblood said:

shaynew1 said:

The real question is- if I draw a Gila tag do I carry on w the recurve? I think I got to. How much more powerful will traditional elk make me?
Enough to get away with wearing a loincloth every day.


That's the real dream isn't it?
Log
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
shaynew1 said:

The real question is- if I draw a Gila tag do I carry on w the recurve? I think I got to. How much more powerful will traditional elk make me?
Speaking from experience, very.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I am sold
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
IF you draw that tag, it will likely be bc of the good karma you just manufactured with the hunting gods.

How's that project coming along anyway?
AgEng06
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
IF you draw that tag, Lungblood needs to go along to chronicle the adventure (since apparently you suck at trip reports)...
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Been shooting everyday. I really enjoy it. for now have been shooting split finger and a combo of instictive and gap, but haven't made my mind up that it's what I want to settle on. Soon I will be slaying hogs w it. I have always contended killin is the best practice for killin.



Re: trip- it's hard to do much more on my phone than be a smartass. A succinct one.

BUT. It is raining and I'm about to be done...so I will summarize summarily for you in a little while.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
shaynew1 said:

I have always contended killin is the best practice for killin.

No doubt. I might even shoot over a big ol struttin Tom at 20 to poke a pig at 60 this spring.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
In the eternal words of mario: Here we go.

Spring 2014. My dad and I do some trading for access to a ranch adjacent to some public land in the Colbran, CO area during bowseason. Not long after, a friend hits me up about putting in for NM 34 to hunt with an outfitter he knew. Sure, I'm for it. I don't know if he meant rifle season but I didn't stop to ask. Him and my dad throw credit card numbers at me to take care of the draw info. Ok, but since I was in charge I decided archery 2, muzzleloader, archery 1. By some dumb luck we hit on muzzleloader. Sweet. Same problem every year...how do I sell my wife on it with our second anniversary looming large on SEPTEMBER 15. I went up twice the year before for opening week and the last week, but it was tricky and it cost me some coins on our anniversary weekend. September is dang expensive.

Meanwhile, we've got to buy a truckload of smoke poles and figure out how to use them. September rolls around and I drive on up to Colbran alone. Spend an afternoon and a morning scouting around and pick my dad up at lunch in Grand Junction on my second day. That evening we go out and are bushwhacking through that damn oak scrub to get set up on a spot where I'd seen some elk. Late evening, hadn't heard anything, so I blew a bugle to see if anyone was around feeling froggy.

A response! Way up the canyon above us a faintly terrifying but beautiful melody danced down the mountain to us while we got a glimpse of some antlers descending through the brush. He had about a half a mile to cover, and was singing the whole way. So I hustled to a favorable spot that looked like he would naturally funnel through and set up to do some murdering. I bugled once more about 40 yards behind where I'd set up as I went by, and left my dad tucked behind a stand of oak brush ready to beat on some bushes to get his attention.

It was a couple minutes before he appeared up the canyon from me zigzagging his way around some brush and rocks in a lazy trot headed my way. He was a decent to good six. My mentality during a hunt is a) determine if he is a shooter. If yes -> kill him. worry about the horns later. So I don't have a clue how good he was (this will come up again later, maybe to my readers annoyance). Dad sensed him and got to whoopin on the bushes behind me. It was working out perfectly. He stepped out at 45 yards (how convenient - I've got a pin for that exact distance!), and I held on the bottom of his chest to account for the minor elevation drop between us. I let sail a beautiful arrow. Time stood still. I mentally checked that box in my head - 'did you kill an elk today?' 'hell yes I did...he is dead. mark it eight dude.' We just had to admire my arrow in the air... flying pure with pink and white vanes spinning slowly until it buried in my target.

Except it didn't. Sailed over him. He was much lower than me...way more than it appeared and I was the tightwad that didn't have a rangefinder w elevation on it. Mother ****er. He didn't spook badly, but I was unable to get another shot through the brush.

I don't remember much more from that trip because it was a week of oak scrub kicking my ass and seeing only one more elk. I SURE DO REMEMBER THE THREE HOURS I WATCHED MY ARROW FLY TOWARD THAT ELK THOUGH. Vividly.

I had to backtrack there to set the tone for NM.

I hadn't killed anything with a muzzleloader, or even known anyone who had. Didn't know how much confidence to put into it, and I have a near irrational respect for the toughness of elk (one a couple years before ran off after I put an arrow in the boiler room. and decided to not die. another vivid memory. that son of a *****). I was just going to treat it like my bow that I could shoot a little bit further.

We arived the afternoon before the October muzzleloader opener. We arrived and I was happily surprised with how the area looked. This is where big bulls lived, and I was here to kill them all. No ****ing oak brush. I had gunpowder with me. Wall tent, outfitter...all I needed was the sun to rise the next morning. The guy who was going to drag me around all week picked me up that morning. We went out, chase some bugles around, and stumbled upon two spikes that walked by us at about 30 yds. Sweet...we were in the elk! This was the promised land. We check some places during the mid day hours hunting some bedded bulls, but didn't find much. Hear some bugles that evening but never got the wind to do anything other than listen from a ways off. There is a lot of timber in the area we were in. The second afternoon, we set up in a spot 3/4 up the mountain. Skip to the juicy part. I hear a bugle and see some cows meandering through the brush about 100 yards away across a small draw. Big daddy appears behind them, herding them around in a trot. I get ready to shoot, but the spot he decides to stop in is behind a bush. I could see him clearly behind it, but there was no doubt I would be shooting through a damn bush, and I didn't know how this dumb sabot would handle it. So I did not shoot him then and waited for him to take a step. Then he jumped and took off to catch up w his cows at a trot. Vivid memory of him in the crosshairs. At the time I did not regret choosing to not shoot. That would change though. I don't know how big he was, but he would absolutely be on my wall right now. Like, literally right now as I type this he would be there. No big deal. Sad disappointed walk home as we didn't make anything happen afterward.

The next morning my buddy that started this whole fiasco arrived from south Texas as he had just went on days off. He got there as we were getting dressed. Grab some breakfast and jump in with us homie. We go listen for some bugles in a couple spots, and decide to head up the mountain. As soon as we clear the meadow at the bottom and hit the timber, we see elk. Close. Sub 100 yards in the timber above us. A bull and maybe ten cows. Wind is ok, thermals hadn't swapped. It is about to go down. I got my gun up and am ready. There are some trees between me and muy grande, and he is facing me. Gun is up, crosshairs on him, but I did not want to take a frontal shot at such an extreme angle. lack of confidence in the round...etc...etc. I figured patience would pay off and he would turn no problem and give me something I liked. They didn't know we were there, so just sit tight. I did get a good look as his fantastic, majestic, godawful huge antlers face on though. another vivid ducking memory. and its only a memory because some ***** sentinel cow we never saw at our 7 o'clock busted us and everyone hauled ass up the hill. i still get **** from that compadre to this day over not taking that shot. Nothing else happens that morning.

That evening buddy breaks off with another guide and me and my man head up another hill where we saw big daddy #1. Hour and a half before dark a scrub bull walks up on us grazing through a meadow we were on. We watched him for probably thirty minutes and he eventually grazed right between us...less than 5 yards from each of us. Was very cool and I did not want to shoot him. But that sentiment was very much at odds with the fact that I wanted to shoot something. As soon as he made his way out of the picture, I hear another bugle coming down from above him, and see some antlers glean through the trees. Awwwww yiss. I see a respectable 5 grazing down through the trees headed for the meadow I was sitting on. My brain said he would do, and my trigger finger (that had become noticeably itchy) agreed. He meanders out to about 60 yards. I grab a stick, level my gun, and bang. He takes one step and falls over stone dead. He's not very big, but I've got one on the ground and I am happy. As we were chopping him up another bull walks by in the dark bugling.

At 60 yards the slug punched through both lungs but hung up in his hide on the far side. I still don't know what to think about not taking the first two shots.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Talmbout
harge57
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
FYI. Nat Geo launched a site to print detailed TOPO maps. These will be spread all over my floor for the next 6 months. Oh wait 5 Months in 2 weeks as I will be in Wyoming in 6 months.

NatGeo Maps
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I printed and laminated a couple to carry around last season.
Sean98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
That was Sean-esque in it's length. Impressive.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's a damn shame that all went down before the invention of the lightweight, portable, high-res digital camera.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I think I've got one lone picture somewhere from that year. For whatever reason its a huge freaking chore for me to take pictures. All year long I think "ya man I'm going to take a truckload of photos. It will be awesome. I will share them with my friends. Maybe even frame one." Then I get on the mountain and care zero. I took a bunch the next year and even put them all on here. But it was a long conscious effort...that I failed on this year.

Hell this year I didn't even get a picture of me with my bull. Just snapped one standing over him laying in the dirt.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
harge57 said:

FYI. Nat Geo launched a site to print detailed TOPO maps. These will be spread all over my floor for the next 6 months. Oh wait 5 Months in 2 weeks as I will be in Wyoming in 6 months.

NatGeo Maps
Wow... Thanks. Mind... blown.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AgEng06 said:

IF you draw that tag, Lungblood needs to go along to chronicle the adventure (since apparently you suck at trip reports)...
I'd be all on board... if it wasn't during elk season.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Should we just pitch texags to buy us some tags and send us off w some cameramen
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Listen TA this is the content your subscribers want.
shaynew1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
in the spirit of texags we could go on a wink Barbary wink sheep hunt and treat it like a 90k desert bighorn expedition
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Quote:

in the spirit of texags we could go on a wink Barbary wink sheep hunt and treat it like a 90k desert bighorn expedition
NM has OTC tags for the elusive "barbary bighorn" good for a year... April 1 - March 31 I believe... Statewide except for draw units. Obviously, it's this way for a reason... but it's an option.
Lungblood
How long do you want to ignore this user?
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/download/publications/rib/2015/hunting/22-Barbary-Sheep.pdf
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.