Sophie Cunningham

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usmcbrooks
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Didn't she play one year under Mulkey at Baylor? Seems to be a pattern with her and Reese both coached by Mulkey.
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Sydney Colson…garbage human. I don't care if she played here or not. To support that kind of retaliation on someone that has a different opinion, she's just as bad as the rest of those ghetto thugs in the wNBA.
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AustinAg2K said:

Hey...so.. um said:

amercer said:

Urban Ag said:

amercer said:

F16 only cares about this because of what she said that fits into the culture wars, but Cunninghams role for the Fever is to be the muscle that protects Clark. It's kind of a Liambeer, Rodman, Draymod kind of role. So she gives hard fouls and takes hard fouls and doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from the refs. But she keeps the other teams from roughing up Clark too much, which seems to be working well this year.

Can you provide an example of Cunningham giving a "hard foul" to an opposing player that is comparable to the clothesline takedown she received a couple of days ago? I am sure there are numerous examples. If Sophie is playing at that level as well I will reverse my opinion.


It's literally the opening story in this espn profile of her from earlier in the season:

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49306657/sophie-cunningham-finger-point-indiana-fever-wnba

Again, if I'm the Fever this is exactly what I want on the court protecting the franchise player. But once you get that reputation, you keep it.


Can you post a video? You posted an article from ESPN. The video in the article is just her making 3's.


Poster is correct. She is Clark's enforcer.






The question for video was for a hard foul like the closeline. Bear hugging an opposing player going for a layup to send a message is different than forearm punching someone in the face. If you cant see that, I dont know what to tell you. Video still hasn't been provided.
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Hey...so.. um said:

AustinAg2K said:

Hey...so.. um said:

amercer said:

Urban Ag said:

amercer said:

F16 only cares about this because of what she said that fits into the culture wars, but Cunninghams role for the Fever is to be the muscle that protects Clark. It's kind of a Liambeer, Rodman, Draymod kind of role. So she gives hard fouls and takes hard fouls and doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from the refs. But she keeps the other teams from roughing up Clark too much, which seems to be working well this year.

Can you provide an example of Cunningham giving a "hard foul" to an opposing player that is comparable to the clothesline takedown she received a couple of days ago? I am sure there are numerous examples. If Sophie is playing at that level as well I will reverse my opinion.


It's literally the opening story in this espn profile of her from earlier in the season:

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/49306657/sophie-cunningham-finger-point-indiana-fever-wnba

Again, if I'm the Fever this is exactly what I want on the court protecting the franchise player. But once you get that reputation, you keep it.


Can you post a video? You posted an article from ESPN. The video in the article is just her making 3's.


Poster is correct. She is Clark's enforcer.






The question for video was for a hard foul like the closeline. Bear hugging an opposing player going for a layup to send a message is different than forearm punching someone in the face. If you cant see that, I dont know what to tell you. Video still hasn't been provided.


That's why I was asking if the wrap up was retaliation for an earlier play that the video implied wasn't called. The impression i got was that SC was going after a player that assaulted CC earlier in the same game and the refs swallowed their whistles.

You can have hard aggressive D and still officiate a clean and consistent game. Physicality doesn't have to be violence. Refs have to not suck though.
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I miss the days when giant dongs were getting tossed on the court.

That was entertainment.
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Racist donut bumpers.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

Backyard Gator said:





Uh oh, Eminem battle rapped about people just like her (fake tough guys/girls)

Her father is former NFL safety Darren Carrington, he played in the League for eight seasons. He is now a pastor of his own church. Her mother is former college track athlete Victoria Carrington. She attended Horizon Christian Academy in San Diego, where tuition is $15k a year. Her brother played WR for Oregon. Her sister is a TBL basketball coach.

She grew up with a stable family unit and they were at least very comfortable. For her to call anyone else out for 'privilege' is freaking laughable. The 8 Mile comparison is apt, except I think she had it even better than Clarence.

Clarence didn't try to dress up to look like B-Rabbit, either.
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Science Denier said:

Mat Lanticus said:

TyHolden said:

18 pages of WNBA. if you told me this 5-10 years ago, I would have laughed my ass off.

yeah it should not have taken this long to get fed up with bad black behavior. #fatigued


This thread isn't really about WNBA. It's about racism and hate. These players asssult white players and usually don't get called for it. Congress even acknowledged it.

To be fair, the WNBA is not a sports league.
Its a woke, racist political organization at this point.
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samurai_science said:

Owlagdad said:

Drama sells tickets. People won't buy tickets to watch cruddy basketball. But they enjoy a cat fight!
This is like All star wraslin! Kabuki vs Skandar Akbar. The Von Erichs vs Rick Flair! Probally all go have a beer together post game!
Appeals to dumbasses and low rents!


Not enough, they are losing money like crazy


AI Overview: WNBA franchise valuations have surged dramatically over the past three years, jumping from an average of roughly $96 million in 2024 to $427 million in 2026, driven by record attendance, new media rights deals, and surging investor interest.
94chem,
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It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment
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Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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Backyard Gator said:

AxelFoley85 said:



The reactions online are pretty despicable.

Plenty of WNBA fans believe if you say something they disagree with, reacting violently in response is justified.

These people are mentally deranged.


ghetto…I think the cultural term you are looking for is ghetto. Who else follows WNBA except ghetto trash and lesbians? The grossest fan base in sports. The comments you speak of are completely expected.
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94chem said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.

Yes, doing so well its needs to be subsided by the NBA. Do you finances bro?
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

94chem said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.

Yes, doing so well its needs to be subsided by the NBA. Do you finances bro?


Here is a little more AI help...

NBA owners are making significant money off their WNBA franchises primarily through massive equity growth (capital gains) and ecosystem synergies, rather than traditional, steady annual operating profits. While the league has historically operated at a cash loss, a massive surge in fan interest, record ticket demand, and groundbreaking financial milestones has radically shifted how owners make money from their investments.

You can read more about it on your own. Most of us in the middle class can't see beyond "cash flow," because we need money to pay our bills. But people with real money kill it with book values. When you're a billionaire, who cares if you have a $3 million operating loss and a $200 million increase in valuation?
94chem,
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https://babylonbee.com/news/caitlin-clark-explains-that-white-privilege-feels-weirdly-like-getting-beat-up-by-giant-black-lesbians

Caitlin Clark Explains That White Privilege Feels Weirdly Like Getting Beat Up By Giant Black Lesbians

Hardcore Greg
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94chem said:

samurai_science said:

Owlagdad said:

Drama sells tickets. People won't buy tickets to watch cruddy basketball. But they enjoy a cat fight!
This is like All star wraslin! Kabuki vs Skandar Akbar. The Von Erichs vs Rick Flair! Probally all go have a beer together post game!
Appeals to dumbasses and low rents!


Not enough, they are losing money like crazy


AI Overview: WNBA franchise valuations have surged dramatically over the past three years, jumping from an average of roughly $96 million in 2024 to $427 million in 2026, driven by record attendance, new media rights deals, and surging investor interest.

Caitlyn Clark effect?
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94chem said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.


Each team is losing at least 20-40 million even with the new revenue and the only people they are separating from their money is nba owners.
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I'm really curious to see the ROI on the $3.1B (11 yr) media rights deal WNBA signed with Disney, Amazon and etc.
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We just don't have enough information on the difference between the biological sexes in sports.

I suggest we gather information by, in all fifty states and in any sport where they each play the same sport, have the respective boys and girls state champions play against each other just to see if we can detect any sort of pattern.
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The greatest bumper sticker I ever saw is very appropriate for this thread…
"Had I known this, I would have picked my own cotton"
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samurai_science said:

94chem said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.


Each team is losing at least 20-40 million even with the new revenue and the only people they are separating from their money is nba owners.

Reminds me of my dad giving my mom a hard time (jokingly, not abusively) when she would come home from a shopping trip and tell him how much money she saved because things were on sale.

NBA Owners: "Look how much money I saved by not paying taxes on all that money I lost. The franchise I bought is increasing in value because we will lose even more money next year!"
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Squadron7 said:

We just don't have enough information on the difference between the biological sexes in sports.

I suggest we gather information by, in all fifty states and in any sport where they each play the same sport, have the respective boys and girls state champions play against each other just to see if we can detect any sort of pattern.

I know you're being facetious but that's just whats so frustrating about this whole discussion. We absolutely do have the data.
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akm91 said:

Squadron7 said:

We just don't have enough information on the difference between the biological sexes in sports.

I suggest we gather information by, in all fifty states and in any sport where they each play the same sport, have the respective boys and girls state champions play against each other just to see if we can detect any sort of pattern.

I know you're being facetious but that's just whats so frustrating about this whole discussion. We absolutely do have the data.

I volunteer to confirm Sophie's biological sex.
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what a joke...

I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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Quote:

While the league has historically operated at a cash loss, a massive surge in fan interest, record ticket demand, and groundbreaking financial milestones has radically shifted how owners make money from their investments.


This is why the WNBA racism is so insane. Their growth is due 100% due to Catlin Clark.

Folks don't want to watch the WWE version of basketball. They didn't watch. Enter Clark. She can pass, she can shoot, but she's white and the players hate her. So does the league. The refs are insanely biased against her. They constantly call ghost fouls on her, but they let opposing teams hammer her, many times with no foul called. Opposing coaches strategy is to just foul her and refs don't call them.

And, as this thread shows, it's even being backed by the players union. League leadership, players union, Indiana Fever organization, and their own head coach all are trying to hammer Clark.

There are thousands of YouTube videos showing this. There is a video catching a WNBA player saying "****ing white girl". Celebrities have weighed in. NBA stars have weighed in. Mostly the NBA players that have called out these crazies are black and recognize the racism and hate spewing from these WNBA players.

It's so bad, Congress even weighed in. Congress usually walks on egg shells when reverse racism is evident, but it's so bad, even they are calling out the league.

As I've said multiple times, IDGAF about the WNBA. But, the insane racism here has gotten my attention and has led me to watch way too many WNBA video clips. LOL
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TyHolden said:

what a joke...



I saw that: I was incredibly impressed with Clark's self control.

White won't even defend her own players, why is she their head coach again?
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TyHolden said:

what a joke...



Goodness...
I get loving the game but WHY/HOW can you continue? Her own coach just threw her under the bus telling opposing players to hard foul her #1 shooter. If the union won't back her up, where do you go? There's obvious legal recourse but to what accomplishment?

NBA players might be speaking out, but what will they do if/when their league tells them to shut it?

Sure SC and CC have generated increased interest, but in doing so all it does is bolseter increased ticket sales and viewership for the league. A league that has shown they do not care about their golden egg laying geese.
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Hill08 said:

The greatest bumper sticker I ever saw is very appropriate for this thread…
"Had I known this, I would have picked my own cotton"

We will always pay immensely for the sins and greed of some of our forefathers. The part that really stings is that the vast majority back then did not own slaves. But the ones that did, cut corners, and it royally effed subsequent generations, with no end in sight. Things have actually gotten WORSE since the 1960's as the democratic party has worked to completely annihilate the black nuclear familyand form giant urban ghettos that will loyally vote for them across generations.

I think, had the founders had access to a time machine - or prophetic visions of the future, they would have shed blood to end slavery, realizing the catastrophic nature of their mistake.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

TyHolden said:

what a joke...



Goodness...
I get loving the game but WHY/HOW can you continue? Her own coach just threw her under the bus telling opposing players to hard foul her #1 shooter. If the union won't back her up, where do you go? There's obvious legal recourse but to what accomplishment?

NBA players might be speaking out, but what will they do if/when their league tells them to shut it?

Sure SC and CC have generated increased interest, but in doing so all it does is bolseter increased ticket sales and viewership for the league. A league that has shown they do not care about their golden egg laying geese.

Do you know how much money CC or Sophie could make if they publicly announced that they were leaving the game due to racism and violent urban culture prevalent? They could start an "it's ok to be a white" or "white girl magic" or maybe even a "fathers matter" type of campaign and get millions of followers and be doing a good deed to so many girls who have been led astray and taught that they are villains if they are white - unless they metaphorically 'kiss the feet' of blacks.

This would not have been possible before Elon bought Twitter, and Zuck's nuts dropped, but they could easily kill it as influencers or this sort. Maybe write a book or two.
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Hardcore Greg said:

94chem said:

samurai_science said:

Owlagdad said:

Drama sells tickets. People won't buy tickets to watch cruddy basketball. But they enjoy a cat fight!
This is like All star wraslin! Kabuki vs Skandar Akbar. The Von Erichs vs Rick Flair! Probally all go have a beer together post game!
Appeals to dumbasses and low rents!


Not enough, they are losing money like crazy


AI Overview: WNBA franchise valuations have surged dramatically over the past three years, jumping from an average of roughly $96 million in 2024 to $427 million in 2026, driven by record attendance, new media rights deals, and surging investor interest.

Caitlyn Clark effect?


No doubt. We have a direct historical analogue to the arrival of Magic and Larry and the NBA in the 1980's.

I can't speak for everyone, but see if you can find a single NBA player - anywhere - who:

A) Doesn't respect what Magic and Larry did for the game in th 1980's.
B) What MJ did for the game in the 1990's.
C) What the Dream Team did for the game, making it an international sport, such that the NBA hasn't had an American MVP in a decade.

The minimum total salary of a 2 year NBA player is $4 million. Dipping your toe in that league produces generational wealth if so desired.

Is the WNBA's dysfunction a female problem, a race problem, a gender problem, or a sexuality problem? IDK, but they're costing themselves a lot of money.

That said, ignoring franchise valuations to make political points in disingenuous.
94chem,
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samurai_science
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Franchise value is fools gold because they are losing money
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samurai_science said:

94chem said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It was mentioned several pages back that team valuations also inflated due to tax treatment


So what? Tesla paid $0 in taxes last year. Owners sell franchises all the time after using the taxpayers to jack up their value (remember George W. Bush?). Separating people from their money is the primary goal of business. The WNBA is doing pretty well in that regard.


Each team is losing at least 20-40 million even with the new revenue and the only people they are separating from their money is nba owners.


Wut!?

I thought the 40 to 50 Million dollars lost was the league total, not per team.
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94chem said:

Hardcore Greg said:

94chem said:

samurai_science said:

Owlagdad said:

Drama sells tickets. People won't buy tickets to watch cruddy basketball. But they enjoy a cat fight!
This is like All star wraslin! Kabuki vs Skandar Akbar. The Von Erichs vs Rick Flair! Probally all go have a beer together post game!
Appeals to dumbasses and low rents!


Not enough, they are losing money like crazy


AI Overview: WNBA franchise valuations have surged dramatically over the past three years, jumping from an average of roughly $96 million in 2024 to $427 million in 2026, driven by record attendance, new media rights deals, and surging investor interest.

Caitlyn Clark effect?


No doubt. We have a direct historical analogue to the arrival of Magic and Larry and the NBA in the 1980's.

I can't speak for everyone, but see if you can find a single NBA player - anywhere - who:

A) Doesn't respect what Magic and Larry did for the game in th 1980's.
B) What MJ did for the game in the 1990's.
C) What the Dream Team did for the game, making it an international sport, such that the NBA hasn't had an American MVP in a decade.

The minimum total salary of a 2 year NBA player is $4 million. Dipping your toe in that league produces generational wealth if so desired.

Is the WNBA's dysfunction a female problem, a race problem, a gender problem, or a sexuality problem? IDK, but they're costing themselves a lot of money.

That said, ignoring franchise valuations to make political points in disingenuous.

Good points. I was a little young to fully see what LB and Magic were doing but I do recall MJ in the 90's.
"I wanna be like Mike!"

The game through the 90's was hard hitting and extremely physical. Battles in the paint were brutal. It's one of the things that made MJ so good and so hard to play against. He'd absolutely go toe-to-toe with the defense in under the basket, but he was also fantastic just pulling up and taking the shot from the mid-ranges.

You can have very entertaining and hard hitting physical ball, but his has to be officiated well. The whistles have to blow predictably and it's got to go both ways without exception.

Those guys were all ruthless on the court, but I've heard interviews that they all got along extremely well off court and had some brutal (but respectful) closed door games.

These gals in the WNBA are missing that part. It's just thug street ball that's barely one dribble away from a brawl.
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Their coach is on borrowed time. When the two most popular players in the league want her out, she done…..as she should be

It's very interesting to see how the league is reacting. I don't see ANY white lesbian players saying anything. The only ones talking and assaulting these white players are black. Fatigue..
 
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