There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]
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Yup. We are better off just coming in every 5 years and whipping the floor with their military than trying to put boots on the ground. Do that as many times as you have to.Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Well to do that would be arm enough people to give the remains of that gov hell on earth. Doing a walkaway is dumb when that gov would just reconstitute itself in the absence of unarmed opposition.
Hard to reform your gov and terrorize your neighbors when you have to fight an internal insurgency.
If this fails to come to fruition and the people of Iran fail to rise up to make a change, Trump can and will claim it was more difficult than expected. Just like his claim he'd end the Ukrainian war. Up until that point, we'll degrade the regime and proxies as much as possible to set them back years .
MaxPower said:Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Yup. We are better off just coming in every 5 years and whipping the floor with their military than trying to put boots on the ground. Do that as many times as you have to.
Assuming you have a president that's willing to do so (i.e. - not a democrat), so this is far from being a certainty
MaxPower said:Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Yup. We are better off just coming in every 5 years and whipping the floor with their military than trying to put boots on the ground. Do that as many times as you have to.
A point some people are missing is that there are 2 generations of Iranians who don't know any different. Those are also the generations of most fighting men.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Timberwolf said:
If this fails to come to fruition and the people of Iran fail to rise up to make a change, Trump can and will claim it was more difficult than expected. Just like his claim he'd end the Ukrainian war. Up until that point, we'll degrade the regime and proxies as much as possible to set them back years .
He's already publicly said it's up to the Iranians to change their leadership. We are just enabling it.
If they fail to do it, then he can objectively say he gave them the best chance they are ever going to get.
Really curious who these new people are. This suggests a group of people beyond the IRGC and the mullahs. Who would that be?
YouBet said:
Really curious who these new people are. This suggests a group of people beyond the IRGC and the mullahs. Who would that be?
Militias in Iraq?
B-1 83 said:MaxPower said:Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Yup. We are better off just coming in every 5 years and whipping the floor with their military than trying to put boots on the ground. Do that as many times as you have to.
A point some people are missing is that there are 2 generations of Iranians who don't know any different. Those are also the generations of most fighting men.
I worked with an Iranian college student in the early 2000's while at A&M. He told me most of the young people hated the regime, were generally less religious, and wanted to be more western. Sounded more like influence of the internet than some rosey view of the past. Anecdotal for sure, but if he was right, the time is now. Surely our intelligence and strategy is wanting to foster an internal change. Otherwise I don't think we'd be going this hard. Like others have noted, wanting and doing are very different. Will some kind of organized and motivated group or person rise up?
This is only a guess based on nothing. Seems like Mossad has had their finger on the pulse of every phase of the regime. It would not surprise me if they have sussed out an entire cadre of likely replacement leaders and are only waiting for things to get safe enough (that is to say until they have X'ed enough of the IRGC types) before bringing them forward.
Maybe that's just how I hope it turns out.
Maybe that's just how I hope it turns out.
I feel so much better since about 11 a.m. CT on 20 Jan. 2025
I really have no idea, but would speculate it's more regular army/IRGC units/leadership vs. just 'civilian' and senior guys/ballistic missile/drone stuff. I saw some pictures of himars firing from Bahrain even this am.
The Iranians have for decades used a smallish fleet of airliners to transport rocket and bomb stuff to Hezbollah in Lebanon (and also to pick up/drop off stuff from China/Venezuela etc 'Mahan Air', normally with A340's). I think the Israeli's are done allowing that.
Mahan operated that 747 that was blown up by the Israeli's, but I think this sanctioned 'airline' moved much of their gear to Afghanistan when this kicked off.
The Iranians have for decades used a smallish fleet of airliners to transport rocket and bomb stuff to Hezbollah in Lebanon (and also to pick up/drop off stuff from China/Venezuela etc 'Mahan Air', normally with A340's). I think the Israeli's are done allowing that.
The IDF now says it struck Mehrabad airport.
— Michael A. Horowitz (@michaelh992) March 7, 2026
The Israeli military says its Air Force destroyed 16 aircraft belonging to the Quds Force unit that were transporting military equipment to Hezbollah https://t.co/mNh0hQLQ9G
Mahan operated that 747 that was blown up by the Israeli's, but I think this sanctioned 'airline' moved much of their gear to Afghanistan when this kicked off.
Mahan Air of Iran has moved some of their fleet to Herat Airport of Herat, Afghanistan! pic.twitter.com/zoRtATpdHR
— Strat Insights (@PolIntelNinja) March 4, 2026
Hmm, I don't think that will save that fleet. I doubt we have qualms about pinpointing those planes in Afghanistan.
YouBet said:
Hmm, I don't think that will save that fleet. I doubt we have qualms about pinpointing those planes in Afghanistan.
This. And even if we don't hit them on the ground, they've got to go airborne and leave Afghani airspace eventually.
USA made Merops anti-drone systems being sent to Middle East
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2026/03/07/us_to_send_anti-drone_system_to_the_mideast_after_successful_use_in_ukraine_1169134.html
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2026/03/07/us_to_send_anti-drone_system_to_the_mideast_after_successful_use_in_ukraine_1169134.html
rgag12 said:deddog said:Admiral Nelson said:docb said:
I'm mainly just comparing how hard it was for Israel to finally clear out Gaza and that is a small piece of land.
The populace in Gaza supported Hamas. I have no idea why, but they did and still do. The populace in Iran is fed up with this regime. Completely different situation.
Because they are Palestinian. They don't like anybody or anything. Seriously. They've been kicked out whereever they've gone.
Iran is far more modern, and there is a significant part of the populace that doesn't want it to be a theocratic state.
There is a massive gulf between wanting something and doing something.
No doubt. Unless we arm them, I'm skeptical anything will happen. The Islamists control all life in Iran. They have a lot to lose. And will fight to hold on.
Official IRGC statement: “President Pezeshkian made a mistake [saying they won't attack neighboring countries], and our forces demonstrated his mistake. His comments were 5 hours ago, and since then Dubai and Abu Dhabi are being struck. Ignore Pezeshkian's words during the war.” pic.twitter.com/qZflx81EhQ
— Dr. Eli David (@DrEliDavid) March 7, 2026
"We have no command and control and will continue to randomly strike out at all of our neighbors, pay no attention to our President."
Good for us. Stupid by them.
I wonder if their president is trying to save himself. Make overtures about stopping attacks hoping that makes him useful
GAC06 said:
I wonder if their president is trying to save himself. Make overtures about stopping attacks hoping that makes him useful
Think he has proven he's not useful since they didn't stop, so he can go too. If he was smart, he'd flee.
NEXT!
بنا بر ارزیابی اطلاعاتی که از طریق چند منبع رسیده، در جریان حمله روز پنجشنبه به ورزشگاه ۱۲ هزار نفره آزادی تهران، بین ۹۰۰ تا هزار نیروی یگان ویژه کشته شدهاند.
— ایران اینترنشنال - خبر فوری (@IranIntlbrk) March 7, 2026
این نیروها عمده ماموریتها برای کشتار مردم در اعتراضهای تهران، البرز و شهرهای اطراف این دو استان را انجام دادهاند
Edit, here is the translation:
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be taken at face value.
The head of Israel’s Air Force is actually flying bombing missions in Iran. https://t.co/eNU38Ohk7d
— Jonathan Schanzer (@JSchanzer) March 7, 2026
I believe some of the leaders of ME were former fighter pilots. I know the Jordanian President was. Pretty cool leading from the front here.
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
GAC06 said:
I wonder if their president is trying to save himself. Make overtures about stopping attacks hoping that makes him useful
We need someone left to sign the surrender no? I don't think the fanatics care about a "president' though
If the Kurds can attack from the north, it could draw out iranian forces so we can smoke 'em. Maybe?
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I feel fairly confident this isn't the first time Mosad has planned out what a leadership change in Iran might look like. I also suspect they already know some people and groups they could lean on for a transition.
The complete collapse and capitulation of the current regime must happen first. There is likely only one good shot at this. Keep hitting them hard while there is little pushback in the world.
The complete collapse and capitulation of the current regime must happen first. There is likely only one good shot at this. Keep hitting them hard while there is little pushback in the world.
MagnumLoad said:
If the Kurds can attack from the north, it could draw out iranian forces so we can smoke 'em. Maybe?
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You know what would smoke em out?
Marines landing somewhere in Iran.
The King of Jordan did some flying in cobra helicopters
deddog said:MagnumLoad said:
If the Kurds can attack from the north, it could draw out iranian forces so we can smoke 'em. Maybe?
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You know what would smoke em out?
Marines landing somewhere in Iran.
About as likely as aliens landing
GAC06 said:
The King of Jordan did some flying in cobra helicopters
Yep, I looked it up after I posted and it says Cobra's. I could have sworn that I saw 60 minutes about him many years ago and he was flying F-16's. Maybe that was a different guy over there.
Ah, it was his dad King Hussien that flew fixed wing. Not sure why F-16's popped into my head.
Today, unfortunately, many Americans have good reason to fear that they will be victimized if they are unable to protect themselves. And today, no less than in 1791, the Second Amendment guarantees their right to do so. - Justice Samuel Alito 2022
When the Jordanian F-16 pilot was burned to death by ISIS, Abdullah did a kind of publicity op in a C-130, perhaps that's it
Kozmozag said:
There are 90 million Iranians. Probably 20 million will never give up their identity. Even if we are able to overthrow the current government. The new regime will be under immediate attack by the believers. Trump needs to do maximum damage to the mullahs and goverments military. Then call it a win....victory and walk away.
Meh Iran is different. Just because there will be true believers, doesn't mean those true believers are willing to die for it. Majority will probably welcome a better life rather than fighting
And what is stopping those true believers right now from killing the people that want change? I do not here or see anything about the regular population turning on their neighbors
JB!98 said:The head of Israel’s Air Force is actually flying bombing missions in Iran. https://t.co/eNU38Ohk7d
— Jonathan Schanzer (@JSchanzer) March 7, 2026
I believe some of the leaders of ME were former fighter pilots. I know the Jordanian President was. Pretty cool leading from the front here.
Besides leading from the front as a current desk jockey, it's probably helpful in rotation, with an OP Tempo as intense as this has been.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
JFABNRGR said:JB!98 said:The head of Israel’s Air Force is actually flying bombing missions in Iran. https://t.co/eNU38Ohk7d
— Jonathan Schanzer (@JSchanzer) March 7, 2026
I believe some of the leaders of ME were former fighter pilots. I know the Jordanian President was. Pretty cool leading from the front here.
Besides leading from the front as a current desk jockey, it's probably helpful in rotation, with an OP Tempo as intense as this has been.
I bet there are former IDF pilots all over Israel that would dearly love to be in that seat dropping bombs on Iran.
Someone said that Iran is about the same size as Europe. Don't believe we are going landbased troops into that type of situation. IRAQ II so Trump will not be that stupid.
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