***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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TacosaurusRex
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American Hardwood said:

TacosaurusRex said:

American Hardwood said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I think the reason Chuck is worries is all the sleeper cells and "students" will go full jihad here in the US.

That and a very real possibility of cyber attacks on our energy and water infrastructure. So much of this should be air gapped now and removed from being connected to the internet.

Well, if they are here, you might as well turn the lights on and let these cockroaches show themselves. Better than having them breed in the dark.

I wish I could find the article again, but it was talking about how slow playing the talks was not just to move assets into the area. Iran's leadership has been moving anything of value out of the country. They were pillaging every state resource that they could move. The thought was why slow them down? Let them rip apart their country and then chop it's head off.

With this line of thinking, who would be left to pay these people in America? If the leadership that told you to do something was no longer around, would they keep going? Who is going to pay them now? If you had a kush student life in America, why pop your head up for a regime that doesn't exists anymore?

I would agree with this line of thinking if you could expect radical Islamists to behave rationally like normal human beings. But being a radical Islamist by definition means that their motivations are likely entirely different than you would expect. Dying in jihad for the glory of Allah for instance may outweigh a cushy American lifestyle.

I agree with everything you said, and it was a thought of mine as well. Human behavior was a specialty of mine before career changes, so it will be incredibly fascinating to see unfold. I just hope we are able to study it without the blood stains.
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LMCane said:

BQ_90 said:

LMCane said:

BQ_90 said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

So anyone able to answer why the US needs to involved and not just let Israel bomb Iran if that's what they think they need to do?

Doubt it. I mean bombing didn't work twice against Iraq. Didn't work in Afghanistan didn't work last year with Iran. At some point boots have to go on the ground if you're talking about capturing a country


no one is talking about capturing a country

did we "capture" Venezuela?

and last I looked, Venezuela now does everything we tell them to do.

yea cause this is this is the same exact thing as Venezuela. I mean why are we sending that huge part of our AF and Navel planes to the area if we just gonna pop in with some SF guys and take out the 1 leader of Iran, oh wait, there isn't just one leader


aside from our "navel" planes (sic)

what is your point?

I fixed my typo for you. But do you really think this operation is the same as Venezuela? Have you even bothered to look at a map of Iran. I get you call of duty guys think this all a video game.

Do you really think Iran doesn't have far better capabilities as Venezuela

samurai_science
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After what Israel did to the Iranian "air defense" I am curious what they have left?
Tailgate88
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samurai_science said:

After what Israel did to the Iranian "air defense" I am curious what they have left?

Whatever has been shipped in from China since then?
aggiehawg
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Tailgate88 said:

samurai_science said:

After what Israel did to the Iranian "air defense" I am curious what they have left?

Whatever has been shipped in from China since then?

Same "air defense" China sold to Venezuela?
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aggiehawg said:

Tailgate88 said:

samurai_science said:

After what Israel did to the Iranian "air defense" I am curious what they have left?

Whatever has been shipped in from China since then?

Same "air defense" China sold to Venezuela?

I didn't say it would WORK.
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TacosaurusRex said:

American Hardwood said:

TacosaurusRex said:

American Hardwood said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I think the reason Chuck is worries is all the sleeper cells and "students" will go full jihad here in the US.

That and a very real possibility of cyber attacks on our energy and water infrastructure. So much of this should be air gapped now and removed from being connected to the internet.

Well, if they are here, you might as well turn the lights on and let these cockroaches show themselves. Better than having them breed in the dark.

I wish I could find the article again, but it was talking about how slow playing the talks was not just to move assets into the area. Iran's leadership has been moving anything of value out of the country. They were pillaging every state resource that they could move. The thought was why slow them down? Let them rip apart their country and then chop it's head off.

With this line of thinking, who would be left to pay these people in America? If the leadership that told you to do something was no longer around, would they keep going? Who is going to pay them now? If you had a kush student life in America, why pop your head up for a regime that doesn't exists anymore?

I would agree with this line of thinking if you could expect radical Islamists to behave rationally like normal human beings. But being a radical Islamist by definition means that their motivations are likely entirely different than you would expect. Dying in jihad for the glory of Allah for instance may outweigh a cushy American lifestyle.

I agree with everything you said, and it was a thought of mine as well. Human behavior was a specialty of mine before career changes, so it will be incredibly fascinating to see unfold. I just hope we are able to study it without the blood stains.



pick up a book on the spread of Islam in the 8th Century and get back to us what you find out.

as I pointed out a few days ago-

it is RAMADAN now so the Twelver Shia fanatics have even more reason to die a shahid and get their 72 virgin goats.
Yukon Cornelius
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Iran adjusted ther ballistic missile trajectory last time and got through most of their missiles. I'd be concerned most of the air bases are incredibly vulnerable.
Houston Lee
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Trump and his DoW seem to like to blow stuff up on the Weekends. Iran "Midnight Hammer" was on a Sunday morning. Maduro was taken on a Saturday.

So, maybe we see something in the next 48 hours…
Raiderjay
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Will they use Trump's Decombobulator machine they used in Venezuela?
boulderaggie
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I'm a little nervous about this. Iran KNOWS it can't survive. The stalling. Empty negotiations. They exist for one purpose. It's like they are waiting for us to throw the first punch. Feels like they are up to something. I would not want to be in Israel right now.
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boulderaggie said:

I'm a little nervous about this. Iran KNOWS it can't survive. The stalling. Empty negotiations. They exist for one purpose. It's like they are waiting for us to throw the first punch. Feels like they are up to something. I would not want to be in Israel right now.

They are stalling so they can get all their ill-gotten gains out of the country. It takes time to move your stolen wealth to a new base of operations.
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Houston Lee said:

Trump and his DoW seem to like to blow stuff up on the Weekends. Iran "Midnight Hammer" was on a Sunday morning. Maduro was taken on a Saturday.

So, maybe we see something in the next 48 hours…

When the markets close
The attack goes
Tailgate88
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Fatboy Thaddeus said:

Houston Lee said:

Trump and his DoW seem to like to blow stuff up on the Weekends. Iran "Midnight Hammer" was on a Sunday morning. Maduro was taken on a Saturday.

So, maybe we see something in the next 48 hours…

When the markets close
The attack goes


Trump is in Corpus Christi. Headed to Mara Lago for the weekend. I will say they will wait until he is at least safe settled in but who knows? Could be any time …
Keyno
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LMCane said:

Eliminatus said:

Im Gipper said:

Quote:

He's really not wrong though.


He really is though.


Trump is not backed into any corner. This post is just more blaming the Jews for everything.


I'm not focused on the corner remark. That doesn't matter and I don't care about that. Look at the meat of his post. Realistically, there just isn't many choices available left. At all. So it is probably more likely than not, that we will be in a war with Iran in the very near future IMO.


were we in a "war" with Iran during June of 2025?

because I remember all the idiots blaming the Jews that there would be World War Three and "THOUSANDS" of American dead if Israel and the USA attacked Iran.

Oh, you mean none of those dire results actually came to pass?!?!

I mean realistically we have been in a soft war with Iran probably since at least the mid 2000's through ours and their proxies. We went hot briefly in June 2025, and probably will once again soon.
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Keyno said:

LMCane said:

Eliminatus said:

Im Gipper said:

Quote:

He's really not wrong though.


He really is though.


Trump is not backed into any corner. This post is just more blaming the Jews for everything.


I'm not focused on the corner remark. That doesn't matter and I don't care about that. Look at the meat of his post. Realistically, there just isn't many choices available left. At all. So it is probably more likely than not, that we will be in a war with Iran in the very near future IMO.


were we in a "war" with Iran during June of 2025?

because I remember all the idiots blaming the Jews that there would be World War Three and "THOUSANDS" of American dead if Israel and the USA attacked Iran.

Oh, you mean none of those dire results actually came to pass?!?!

I mean realistically we have been in a soft war with Iran probably since at least the mid 2000's through ours and their proxies. We went hot briefly in June 2025, and probably will once again soon.


2025 was clearly negotiated. We didn't pursue the regime, we didn't attempt to really cripple them. We attacked nuclear sites pretty much exclusively. They responded with a theatrical retaliatory response.

If we really go after the regime, it will be interesting to see what they can do. Will they really empty their missile reserves? Will they attempt to close the strait? Will they use their proxies as much as they can?
Keyno
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LMCane said:

BQ_90 said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

So anyone able to answer why the US needs to involved and not just let Israel bomb Iran if that's what they think they need to do?

Doubt it. I mean bombing didn't work twice against Iraq. Didn't work in Afghanistan didn't work last year with Iran. At some point boots have to go on the ground if you're talking about capturing a country


no one is talking about capturing a country

did we "capture" Venezuela?

and last I looked, Venezuela now does everything we tell them to do.

Well it depends on what our goals are. Because what our elected officials say varies and what we are negotiating with them seems to also vary. If our goal is "regime change", which we have lately been implying, then it's going to take sustained air strikes over years while funding proxies until the government collapses (the Syria model). I don't think the Venezuelan model (assassinating or abducting the Ayatollah) will work because the next man up will not be any different. We could also theoretically accomplish regime change with an invasion (the Iraq model).

If our goal is no enrichment, then we could just continue to bomb their enrichment sites.

Israel's goal is regime change so I think we are going to go that route.
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Why am I not surprised at who is on Iran's side.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Our elites are compromised. This is not a good war for our nation.
They paid for their wars with your tax dollars and also with your untaxed dollars. Inflation is theft.
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Showtime?

LMCane
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Iran adjusted ther ballistic missile trajectory last time and got through most of their missiles. I'd be concerned most of the air bases are incredibly vulnerable.

simply not correct

Iran did NOT "get through" most of their missiles.

In the "June War" (Operation Rising Lion) of June 2025, the Iron Dome and Israel's broader multi-layered air defence systems (including Arrow and David's Sling)

maintained an overall success rate of approximately 86% to 90% against more than 500 Iranian ballistic missiles and 1,000 drones
Yukon Cornelius
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See if you can find the data between when they changed the trajectory. I remember at the time they were getting more total missiles through after the change and were launching about a 1/10 of the previous amount
LMCane
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Yukon Cornelius said:

See if you can find the data between when they changed the trajectory. I remember at the time they were getting more total missiles through after the change and were launching about a 1/10 of the previous amount


the reason "more" seemed to get through was that Iran was volley firing more ballistic missiles at one time

which overloaded the defenses.

all told, a small percentage of drones and missiles actually hit ANY target much less a military target.

a literal handful of 1000 drones and missiles actually hit a valid military target.
Yukon Cornelius
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They were firing far less not more. And some of the air bases are even less protected that Israel, like the one in Jordan.
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Popping off?

TexAgBolter
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Yep

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Confirmed, joint US-Israeli strikes.

Sounds like it was an attempted decapitation strike.
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And it begins
EX TEXASEX
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Oy vey, looks like it's kicking off. The presidential complex and Parliament were hit by U.S. and Israeli tomahawks, a decapitation strike!! Right after the Parliament meeting. So probably a lot are killed. The parliamentarians were told they have to stay at the parliament. Opens up a lot of seats for new Islamic nut jobs to run for office.

#FJB
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EX TEXASEX
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My source above, "The Enforcer," stated the U.S. has confirmed that we are bombing them too. Strikes will be extensive. Went after the Iranian Atomic Energy Commission; I think that is its name. Israelis are going after other cities and nuke sites too. This is just the openning salvo
#FJB
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TexAgBolter
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Hitting nuke sites again

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Fitch said:



Interesting way to word this post, wonder if they are going for their leaders? Iranian people would be very happy if that were to happen
 
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