***** "Winter is Coming to Iran" [Military Action Thread]*****

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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OnlyForNow said:

Any indication of what that was?

Looks like a Ballistic Missile that was likely partially disable by a defense system
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45-70Ag
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At this point, too late. This should have been the effort months ago from them.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
YouBet
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45-70Ag said:




At this point, too late. This should have been the effort months ago from them.


#3 has always been the issue. Rest of those are meaningless.
El Hombre Mas Muerto
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I'm here for the regime change! Will be very interested to see how much of their air force made it into the air and which US air superiority platforms saw the most action. Did the F22 finally get to bust a nut in air-air combat?
agent-maroon
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3. Iran will not give up their "right" to enrich uranium

Stopped reading right here...
OnlyForNow
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lol. The response should be, we're just going to be sure you can't build any bombs reaching anything.
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agent-maroon said:

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3. Iran will not give up their "right" to enrich uranium

Stopped reading right here...
we are not asking now, just going to make it happen
ErnestEndeavor
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Yes that is a booster or remnants of a ballistic. That's where we saw some civilian casualties last summer. They get intercepted high in the air but they have to come down somewhere. The warheads are typically destroyed but the boosters/ body of the missiles still carry a lot of kinetic force when they hit something on the ground.
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JFABNRGR said:

Psycho Bunny said:




I suspect the strong support of the Iranian people for change was a significant factor in Trump ordering the operation.

God speed to our military, the IDF, and even the Iranians who want freedom from tyranny.


This

We don't want to occupy Iran

We want a strong pro-US civilian population ready to take the reigns and replace the Mullahs

There has never been a better time in terms of their civilians finally having enough and ready to topple the regime
agent-maroon
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So we're flying B2's in broad daylight without any particular fanfare. Let there be no doubt that we & the Israelis own their airspace.
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45-70Ag said:




At this point, too late. This should have been the effort months ago from them.


LOL, I think the US military definitely knows how to "reach out" when they want something.
fc2112
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The trick here is to watch and see if this is just a decapitation of the Iranian leadership, thus allowing a more democratic government to come forward.

We'll see.
ErnestEndeavor
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I don't know about B-52. We have several bunker buster munitions (as does Israel) that can be carried by smaller planes. I believe Israel used their F-15s against Hezbollah's leader last summer and just pounded the same spot with multiple bombs from multiple planes.

We also have the B-1.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Iran has fired on everyone in the region, it's getting real and they have nowhere to hide. Iran launched ballistic missiles targeting US military bases in Gulf states like the UAE (Al Dhafra in Abu Dhabi), Bahrain (5th Fleet HQ), Qatar, and Kuwait. UAE defenses intercepted most; confirmed debris killed one civilian so far in Abu Dhabi.

This is the end of the regime
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Phat32
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It will not be possible for the Iranian regime to survive if they have already lost air superiority.
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ErnestEndeavor
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Their naval bases have been taken out. Anything they try to do to intervene would be ground-based. They do have some ground to ship drone capability as we saw from their besties in Yemen.
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agent-maroon said:

So we're flying B2's in broad daylight without any particular fanfare. Let there be no doubt that we & the Israelis own their airspace.
I was gonna say - are we just flying totally uncontested in their airspace!?
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Aggie-Clausewitz said:




Translation: we didn't really want to keep our navy anyways
OnlyForNow
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Sounds like an expensive way to create artificial reefs for Iran.
Yukon Cornelius
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lol it's a little late Iran
fc2112
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Iran has no control over their airspace at this time.
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Zero chill from Israel

Translation:

They published this at the exact minute they were bombing the Ayatollah's house.

They play in a different league.
Old May Banker
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YouBet said:

45-70Ag said:




At this point, too late. This should have been the effort months ago from them.


#3 has always been the issue. Rest of those are meaningless.

The time for diplomacy has passed.

We can't negotiate with terrorists.
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Maroon Dawn said:

JFABNRGR said:

Psycho Bunny said:




I suspect the strong support of the Iranian people for change was a significant factor in Trump ordering the operation.

God speed to our military, the IDF, and even the Iranians who want freedom from tyranny.


This

We don't want to occupy Iran

We want a strong pro-US civilian population ready to take the reigns and replace the Mullahs

There has never been a better time in terms of their civilians finally having enough and ready to topple the regime


This
No Spin Ag
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Iran has fired on everyone in the region, it's getting real and they have no where to hide

This is the end of the regime

Yep. Sounds like a flailing, dying animal for sure.
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ErnestEndeavor
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Some very early reports that Iran was able to scramble some Mig-29s but nothing confirmed. Good information coming out of Iran or anywhere else is difficult to find.

Israel had freedom of the skies after day one of their strikes over the summer. Iran has a lot of homegrown air defense systems that were basically copycats of Russian crap and they failed spectacularly last year.

I think the assumption was China had given them some stuff but Chinese anti-air assets have exactly been reliable either,
Maroon Dawn
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In the bigger geo picture, this is about:

1) cutting off Iranian support to terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis that destabilize the region

2) Less military support to Russia

3) (Most important) Another major supplier of Chinese Oil (along with Venezuela) no longer available
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Fitch said:


Yeah, that's kinda big
agent-maroon
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ErnestEndeavor said:

I don't know about B-52. We have several bunker buster munitions (as does Israel) that can be carried by smaller planes. I believe Israel used their F-15s against Hezbollah's leader last summer and just pounded the same spot with multiple bombs from multiple planes.

We also have the B-1.


Based my comment on this search result:

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Other Aircraft Considerations: While the B-52 Stratofortress and B-1 Lancer have the payload capacity to carry the MOP and were used in testing, they are not currently configured for operational use with this weapon. The B-52 was used in early MOP drop tests, but neither it nor the B-1 is considered survivable in the high-threat environments where the MOP would likely be needed. The C-130 Hercules and other large transport aircraft have been theorized as potential platforms, but such modifications remain hypothetical and impractical for combat use.

But who knows what they're really capable of
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Some very early reports that Iran was able to scramble some Mig-29s but nothing confirmed. Good information coming out of Iran or anywhere else is difficult to find.

Israel had freedom of the skies after day one of their strikes over the summer. Iran has a lot of homegrown air defense systems that were basically copycats of Russian crap and they failed spectacularly last year.

I think the assumption was China had given them some stuff but Chinese anti-air assets have exactly been reliable either,


F35 or f22 hunting opportunity
Raiderjay
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Rockets incoming to Tel Aviv
AgBQ-00
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Maroon Dawn said:

In the bigger geo picture, this is about:

1) cutting off Iranian support to terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis that destabilize the region

2) Less military support to Russia

3) (Most important) Another major supplier of Chinese Oil (along with Venezuela) no longer available


point three is important.
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