Active Shooter in Allen

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PTB - Poon Tang Boyz
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown

"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
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Bocephus said:

1876er said:

Bocephus said:

AggiePetro07 said:

One thing I thought curious was the DPS spokesman said they hadn't yet gained access to his computer. I think he also said they didn't have access to his phone. They really don't know much at all.

They also didn't comment on his Tango Blast tattoo, unless that's not a design exclusive to TB members in Dallas and there are normal people who get that tattoo.

Weird deal.




There are multiple gangs in Dallas that feature that tattoo
Doubtful.

Any latino gang in Dallas would have a Cowboys star, not a City of Dallas water tower symbol.


The cowboys star denotes PTB. As I said, there are multiple gangs in Dallas whose members have the old city of Dallas emblem tattooed on them. If you disagree with that, you can go explain to the Bloods & Crips members that have that emblem tattooed on them that they are not gang members.



CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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fka ftc said:

PTB - Poon Tang Boyz


Puro Tango Blast
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
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BQ78
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User name doesn't check out.
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Yours does.
DallasAg 94
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fka ftc
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It's trickier to tattoo a dead body and develop a fake narrative than you think. Give it time.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown

"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
AggiePetro07
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Yeah, something is ****y that they drop this so fast ESPECIALLY since it "was a white supremacist". Hell, they even talked about the ****** killer longer than this and it damaged their narrative.

I'm still holding (albeit loosely) to the theory that something much darker and more alarming was or is going on and they can't afford the public response/panic to the real truth.

It may be as simple as the guy just wasn't a presence and was crazy and the alarm over not being able to see this even in retrospect is scary in and of itself.

Or there really might be something more sinister and organized that would cause a huge backlash.

Very weird.
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Did any more information come out about the hispanic male victim?
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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akm91 said:

Did any more information come out about the hispanic male victim?


Saw an interview with the man's father or grandfather. Sounded like he was on the up and up but you never know. An immigrant from Venezuela.

I don't buy the hit angle. Just a whacko trying to get to hell as fast as possible.
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DallasAg 94 said:

I'd love to see that interview. It was Saturday, so we know he wasn't on his way to church.


Can't find the interview this like to cnn has some info. He got here in 22 and worked as a delivery driver not much else. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/08/us/victims-allen-texas-outlet-mall-shooting/index.html
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Good observations. More and more seems to just not add up.

Could there be reasons it doesn't add up that are not nefarious? Sure. But the opaqueness of information just doesn't make sense.
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"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
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Poor lady went seconds over her allotted time.
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That ain't no lady
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DallasAg 94 said:

Things I want to know:

  • Pics of killer's tattoos.
  • location each victim was when they were shot.
  • pic of the 32 yo Hispanic Male.
  • list of who were shot and survived.
  • Mall video of killer

The killer marched from H&M to Fatburger fully loaded with guns and ammo. From initial shot to his death, the killer lasted 3.5 mins, according to the DPS. Google maps projects that to be about a 4 min walk.

A mass shooter isn't going to be that directed in his path if he is truly trying to kill as many people as he was equipped to kill. What did he unload... how many shots? In 240 seconds?! I didn't count, but he unloaded around 40 shots killing at least 4 of the victims in the 1st 30 secs. The Dashcam video on pg 2 shows him spending about 40 secs from the time he started shooting before you lose sight.

That leaves about 3 mins to traverse a 4 min walk and in doing so, only killed 4 more people max.

If there were no people outside to shoot because they fled, he would have entered a store. He passed many stores. If he ran out of ammo... he would have returned to his car where he had additional weapons.


Interesting....and down the memory hole it goes
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88planoAg
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Her?
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88planoAg said:

Her?
HIM!
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
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Love Gun
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The story got buried long before the bodies.

It's just (D)ifferent.
Roll the Bones
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Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!


Proc92
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Is that the hardest working first responder in the industry?
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Roll the Bones said:

Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!



Almost positive he is a know bull****er. There was a post on r/texas after talking about how he threatens local businesses constantly

Those morons all hivemind it and downvoted because of course they saw he was on their side. Let me see if I can find it. The poster had a whole write up about it, but I'd bet reddit deleted it.

ETA reddit deleted the post. Of course.
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Roll the Bones said:

Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!






You mean the local Democrat activist trumpeted by posters on here?
“A republic, if you can keep it”

AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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Roll the Bones said:

Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!





A Democrat lying to advance his agenda? Shocking.
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Roll the Bones said:

Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!



Long time Democrat activist. He went there as a crisis actor to push the anti-gun agenda.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Roll the Bones said:

Allen PD are stating this guy who claimed to be the first responder, aka, a hero, is lying.

If true, what a POS!



Is there an actual link to this story?
Roll the Bones
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I took the photo from tonight's newscast on DFW 11. I have no info on him other than his tearful interview the night of the shooting.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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It's wild that we know next to nothing about the shooter or the victims, but now the focus has shifted on a random eyewitness responder.

I recognize this guys face though, I definitely saw a YouTube clip of him being interviewed a very short time after the incident. Probably the first interview we saw.
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Are we seeing a pattern with eyewitnesses to mass shooting incidents being involved in some later controversy?

We saw a similar thing develop with Las Vegas. The deal with the security guard disappearing, reappearing o the Ellen show then disappearing again.

And also the one in Florida with that David Hogg kid who claimed to be at the shooting but was later found to be riding his bike somewhere else at the time of incident.

Now there is some wild story surrounding this barnes doppelgnger guy?
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Gen x hasn't done a damn thing except pat themselves on the back
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