Active Shooter in Allen

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PlaneCrashGuy
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In reply to Bocephus • 1:59p, 5/9/23
Bocephus said:
PlaneCrashGuy said:
Bocephus said:
. My statement has NOTHING to do with what happened in Allen.


Lol what? Are you lost?

I think you'd get further if you just admitted "Open Borders" was a dumb thing to post in this thread given the evidence we have seen.


Dumb is failing to recognize that Biden's open border policy caters to the cartels and blaming Republicans for a federal problem.
Quit derailing. If you want to talk Open Borders then you need to either explain the connection it had to this crime or start a new thread. Right now you're just running this one off topic.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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2:01p, 5/9/23
DPS about to give update on WFAA 8

Can watch here:

https://www.youtube.com/live/QPSAjnSBtys?feature=share
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In reply to Gyles Marrett • 2:01p, 5/9/23
Gyles Marrett said:
Are there any actual pictures of swastika tatoos or any other racist tatoos where you can actually see his face?

If not that in itself is very suspicious.
No.

And the one linking photo would be the Dallas tattoo and it doesn't look like what was posted with the other tattoos.

Plus the margins on the SS tattoo look messed up. Swelling and highlights on the tops of the SS but not the sides.

The schwarztikka isn't cock eyed either. It's 90* instead of 45*.
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2:02p, 5/9/23
Elio Cumana-Rivas

The Texas Department of Public Safety on Monday identified the eighth victim. DPS said that individual is Elio Cumana Rivas, 32, but did not provide any additional details.
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2:05p, 5/9/23
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In reply to AggiePetro07 • 2:07p, 5/9/23
AggiePetro07 said:
Gyles Marrett said:
Are there any actual pictures of swastika tatoos or any other racist tatoos where you can actually see his face?

If not that in itself is very suspicious.
No.

And the one linking photo would be the Dallas tattoo and it doesn't look like what was posted with the other tattoos.

Plus the margins on the SS tattoo look messed up. Swelling and highlights on the tops of the SS but not the sides.

The schwarztikka isn't cock eyed either. It's 90* instead of 45*.
Thank you. The column of things that don't add up/make sense sure is getting a lot longer than the column of things that do. If this narrative turns out to be completely fabricated, I have to give it to whatever moron thought "hey lets take this hispanic mass shooter and paint him as a white supremacist". Boldy impressive.
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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 2:08p, 5/9/23
PlaneCrashGuy said:
Bocephus said:
PlaneCrashGuy said:
Bocephus said:
. My statement has NOTHING to do with what happened in Allen.


Lol what? Are you lost?

I think you'd get further if you just admitted "Open Borders" was a dumb thing to post in this thread given the evidence we have seen.


Dumb is failing to recognize that Biden's open border policy caters to the cartels and blaming Republicans for a federal problem.
Quit derailing. If you want to talk Open Borders then you need to either explain the connection it had to this crime or start a new thread. Right now you're just running this one off topic.


The guy who blamed Republicans for the open border opened that door.

Back on topic: Anyone who thinks he is a white supremacist & those tats are real, should give up their voting registration card
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
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AggiePetro07
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2:11p, 5/9/23
This is a weird press conference.
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kingj3
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2:11p, 5/9/23
Anyone have a link that actually shows the guy talking?
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2:12p, 5/9/23
PC
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 2:13p, 5/9/23
barbacoa taco said:
this is a thread that is literally about the Allen shooter, so yeah i'm focusing on this instance. all i'm saying is illegal immigration probably is not relevant to this, and the only response is "well illegal immigration is still bad ya know!"
It's relevant because the shooter is likely a dreamer or an anchor.
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In reply to kingj3 • 2:13p, 5/9/23
kingj3 said:
Anyone have a link that actually shows the guy talking?


https://www.youtube.com/live/QPSAjnSBtys?feature=share
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2:14p, 5/9/23
No criminal history.
Washed out of the military in basic training.
Had a private security license that was expired.
All weapons were legally obtained.
No motive known at the time.
Did have neo nazi tattoos and patches.
Targeted location, not people. Victims were randomly selected.
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2:16p, 5/9/23
DPS says motive unknown but does claim neo nazi associations
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AggiePetro07
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2:16p, 5/9/23
Per TXDPS
No documentable criminal history.
Was in military, early on was not a fit for the army. They separated him.
Private Security License in TX (Expired).
8 Weapons, 3 on person / 5 in vehicle. All legally obtained.
No known motive.
Neo-nazi Ideation. Patches, Tattos, etc.
Appears to have targeted location, not victims. Didn't care about who, but where.
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AggiePetro07
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2:18p, 5/9/23
Too early to say domestic terrorism
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2:18p, 5/9/23
-No criminal history
-Was in the US Army in 2008; in basic training, realized he was not fit for the army so they separated out before training mode
-Private security license in state of Texas; license expired; worked for several firms; not active;
-Had 8 weapons, 3 in person, 5 in vehicle
-All weapons legally obtained
-Don't know why he did this
-Had neo-nazi ideation. Patches, tattoos, even his signature verified that
-Targeted the location rather than specific group of people; didn't matter the age, race or sex
-Acted alone but keeping an open mind
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2:18p, 5/9/23
Said his motel residence was searched - which explains that apartment tour on YouTube that looked like a motel room.
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2:18p, 5/9/23
The fbi dude smirking wtf?
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In reply to fooz • 2:19p, 5/9/23
fooz said:
The fbi dude smirking wtf?


I don't think he is... I believe he just has a very punchable face
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In reply to fooz • 2:19p, 5/9/23
fooz said:
The fbi dude smirking wtf?
I think he's just a nervous, weird looking dude.
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2:21p, 5/9/23
Over. Moving to Spanish translation.
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2:21p, 5/9/23
Not much at all shared. Just confirmation of previous info.

I take that back, they did say there was not a manifesto found
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2:21p, 5/9/23
Did they confirm the tattoos? I might have missed it
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In reply to kingj3 • 2:22p, 5/9/23
kingj3 said:
Did they confirm the tattoos? I might have missed it


They did. I don't buy it
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
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In reply to kingj3 • 2:22p, 5/9/23
kingj3 said:
Did they confirm the tattoos? I might have missed it
Confirmed he has tattoos.
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2:23p, 5/9/23
I believe neck tattoo thug picture is wrong. Nerdy Mexican guy with SS tats is correct.
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2:25p, 5/9/23
It seems like they really don't have a whole lot of information. This guy was just a nobody with no real profile or interactions that made him significant to many people, until be made himself significant to many people.
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In reply to AggiePetro07 • 2:25p, 5/9/23
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Plus the margins on the SS tattoo look messed up. Swelling and highlights on the tops of the SS but not the sides.


Sounds like the bevel. Anyone seen Jason Cook lately?
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2:25p, 5/9/23
They did say no criminal history. That tosses out the tango blast discussion to an extent
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2:27p, 5/9/23
So Army didn't have to report back in 2008? How is it different now? Sounds like someone dropped the ball.
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In reply to fooz • 2:28p, 5/9/23
fooz said:
So Army didn't have to report back in 2008? How is it different now? Sounds like someone dropped the ball.
You had to be pretty worthless/dangerous for the Army not to take you in 2008.
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 2:28p, 5/9/23
DallasAg 94 said:
My narrative.

Shooter sought out a hit. Saw his target at/near H&M. Got out of his car and sprayed shots. Likely hit his target with a non-lethal wound. Ended up hitting 4+ victims at his initial location.

His target took off around the left side of the building and the shooter followed. He encountered the guy dressed in security uniform and sprayed shots killing him an hitting others.

The wounded target fled around the building leading the shooter to his death near FatBurger. It is a 4 min walk (according to Google) to go from where his car was and walking to FatBurger.

His target likely had a gun and returned fire. That was the "2nd shooter." The target ended up bleeding out and died.

That is the most likely truth.
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2:29p, 5/9/23
Does anyone know what weapon the cop used? Too bad one of these idiot reporters didn't ask that. Curious if he went sidearm or retrieved rifle from vehicle
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 2:34p, 5/9/23
DannyDuberstein said:
Does anyone know what weapon the cop used? Too bad one of these idiot reporters didn't ask that. Curious if he went sidearm or retrieved rifle from vehicle
DPS N TX chief said it was 3-4 minutes from the time shots started til dude was dropped.
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