Active Shooter in Allen

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Logos Stick
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We need more guns. We need more people carrying. Get your wife a gun and have her trained to use it.
Horn_in_Aggieland
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Congressman Keith Self says on Fox News that the shooter was "not a citizen of Allen," but wouldn't elaborate.
Old May Banker
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TexasAggiesWin said:

Damn... sick feeling in my stomach, what in the hell is wrong with people?


We're merely reaping what we've sown.... it'll get worse.
BassCowboy33
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MostlyHarmless said:

Fox 4 News here in Dallas is reporting 9 dead and another 3 in critical condition.


One of the people shot was a five-year-old.
DannyDuberstein
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Old May Banker said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

Damn... sick feeling in my stomach, what in the hell is wrong with people?


We're merely reaping what we've sown.... it'll get worse.


This. Lots of anger and mental health issues out there, ignited by the fear parade of the past few years. Some of these so called leaders have no idea what they've stoked. Some of the evil ones likely do
Rockdoc
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Old May Banker said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

Damn... sick feeling in my stomach, what in the hell is wrong with people?


We're merely reaping what we've sown.... it'll get worse.

Our country is so divided and the hate is getting worse.
Viper16jr
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Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?
“We're Americans, we'd rather die on our feet, than live on our knees."
Pookers
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Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?


Feds gotta get their story correct.
45-70Ag
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Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?


Does he have a ****** manifesto.
milner79
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Congressman Keith Self says on Fox News that the shooter was "not a citizen of Allen," but wouldn't elaborate.

Heard that. So he would rather we speculate? Ok, I can speculate. I've got my answer.
Picard
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Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?


Because he's not white

Nitro Power
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Rockdoc said:

Old May Banker said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

Damn... sick feeling in my stomach, what in the hell is wrong with people?


We're merely reaping what we've sown.... it'll get worse.

Our country is so divided and the hate is getting worse.


Everything we see today is biblical. Yes it is going to get worse...much worse. So I believe everyone needs to consider getting right with God.
McKinney Ag69
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Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?


You know why.
FriscoKid
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DannyDuberstein said:

Old May Banker said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

Damn... sick feeling in my stomach, what in the hell is wrong with people?


We're merely reaping what we've sown.... it'll get worse.


This. Lots of anger and mental health issues out there, ignited by the fear parade of the past few years.

And we keep parading the mental health subjects as "heros". The shooter wasn't a victim. He was a piece of **** that thought he was a hero. I'm glad he has a skylight in his forehead. He should have kept his problems to himself instead of looking for glory on social media.
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Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?

My assumption is the amount of weapons and clips on the assailant, and who knows what else they may have found in his car, have them further investigating if others were involved, is he part of a group, was this premeditated? His picture dead on the ground is out there…someone will recognize his car and his body soon.
miller0926
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Viper16jr
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Silvertaps said:

Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?

My assumption is the amount of weapons and clips on the assailant, and who knows what else they may have found in his car, have them further investigating if others were involved, is he part of a group, was this premeditated? His picture dead on the ground is out there…someone will recognize his car and his body soon.
I didn't get to see his bloody mug unfortunately, but random **** like this sounds like another day south of the border; And we don't have a border anymore.... so here it is.
“We're Americans, we'd rather die on our feet, than live on our knees."
Pookers
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That tattoo on the hand really seems like gang member **** to me.
zook
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Guys, I think we should all just quit with the semantics and speculation of race, motive, etc... and remember that several innocent people are dead, including children. Some parent or sibling or child lost their loved one today. Have some decorum.
fooz
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Pookers said:

That tattoo on the hand really seems like gang member **** to me.


Good possibility considering they tattoo everything else about the city on themselves, area codes, skyline, sports teams, etc...
Serotonin
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Big thank you to staff for taking out the trolling. Some of us get updates from texags and the showboating/derailing was getting absurd.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser
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[If you would like to discuss that subject please start a thread but it was beginning to derail this one and we are try to keep it on topic about the incident as much as we can. Thank you. -Staff]
fooz
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fooz said:

Pookers said:

That tattoo on the hand really seems like gang member **** to me.


Good possibility considering they tattoo everything else about the city on themselves, area codes, skyline, sports teams, etc...


I read elsewhere it's a "Triple D" gang tattoo.
Ol_Ag_02
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Crawford08 said:

Guys, I think we should all just quit with the semantics and speculation of race, motive, etc... and remember that several innocent people are dead, including children. Some parent or sibling or child lost their loved one today. Have some decorum.


This is a message board not the national news. If you don't want speculation spend your time there.

The beauty, and ugliness, of immediate message board information is that it all has to be taken with a grain of salt. It could be ironclad truth. It could also be uninformed trolling.

If you're worried about that, then this isn't the medium for you.

Edit spelling.
DannyDuberstein
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I live less than 5-6 miles from this shooting and have learned more about this incident on this board than any single news source so far. Some of that is going to come with speculation and discussion from people with a similar background and largely common interests. That's why i'm here
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Silvertaps said:

Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?
His picture dead on the ground is out there…someone will recognize his car and his body soon.
people on 4chan probably figure it out.

I'd guess that we will be looking at screenshots of the perps social media within the next few hours.

This incident reminds me of the shooting at the Chicago festival. I think it will follow that pattern. Thats my guess.
Pookers
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Silvertaps said:

Viper16jr said:

Shooter not a citizen of Allen.

What else??

Why so tight lip on the shooter?
His picture dead on the ground is out there…someone will recognize his car and his body soon.
people on 4chan probably figure it out.

I'd guess that we will be looking at screenshots of the perps social media within the next few hours.

This incident reminds me of the shooting at the Chicago festival. I think it will follow that pattern. Thats my guess.
4chan is awful slow right now, not much digging going on.
Waiting on a Natty
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DannyDuberstein said:

Looks most likely hispanic. Possibly white but not likely. Doesn't matter except for the media attention motive will get if it's one while the other gets memory holed. Sick SOB regardless. Just horrific
If he was Hispanic then that tat would be for the Tango Blast gang. The tat would indicate it was the Dallas Tango Blast.
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Photos of what is alleged to be the shooter (from reddit thread.)
Rapier108
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Trying to figure out what model of AR that is. Not that common see one with the carry handle on it.

Might be a Colt AR-15 A4, or could be a fairly old model not in production for years.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Pookers
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Rapier108 said:

Trying to figure out what model of AR that is. Not that common see one with the carry handle on it.

Might be a fairly old one.

Could be a really basic ***** S&W $400 special.
JB!98
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:




Photos of what is alleged to be the shooter (from reddit thread.)
Looks like he only got one mag off before he was dropped. Also, no optic on the weapon. Thank God that cop was in the right place at the right time.

Would be interested in seeing what that insignia or verbiage is on his chest rig.
fooz
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Stat Monitor Repairman
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Alleged shooter may be hispanic. I'd say between 27 and 35 years old. Looks short. Probably around 5'6". Maybe 180 lbs. Had on dickies and an old style button-down windbreaker. Looks to have had around 10. 30-round mags along with hard body armor. I doubt he could move very fast with all that on. Looks really heavy to be walking around in with the dudes body frame.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2008/11/30/tango-blast-s-loose-affiliation-rules-tattoo-look-draw-ex-cons-and-kids-alike/?outputType=amp

I only skimmed, but did not see the triple D Dallas logo mentioned.
 
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