Active Shooter in Allen

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ballchain said:

RWDS is an FBI-manufactured term. No ****ing way has anyone but some hillbillies (FBI groomed) or perhaps some Hispanic death metal band ever used that.


For what it is worth I see a post on urban dictionary describing the term going back to 2019
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hawk1689 said:

Ugh. Just found out that one of the victim's was a kid at my daughter's school. His two parents also. The brother is in ICU.
I'm so sorry. This is just sickening.
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Gigem_94 said:

Keep in mind - 80s you could buy fully automatic rifles, few gun restrictions, kids had guns in their pick up truck windows, overall more access to guns - very few mass shootings. So, what changed? Less morality and values. Shunning god. Breakdown of the family unit.
This is the thing never mentioned in the MSM. It's all agenda and has little to do with stopping these shootings. In fact, I think there's a part in the dark heart of a leftists that likes every time they hear one of these shooting happening. Then they can get on social media and spew their hate.
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Goro Majima said:

Raiderjay said:

The elephant in the room we are not addressing....We don't have a gun problem, we have an epidemic mental health problem......
This all day. We've always owned guns in this country but for some reason the incidents keep happening and people seem crazier.
I think this is part of it but I think it's more complicated. Social media, mental health, proliferation of mind altering drugs, family and societal breakdown, victim adoration, upside down rules of right and wrong, the lack of God in families, schools, and society. The culture is completely broken.
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I thought rwds stood for right wing derangement syndrome
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ts5641 said:

Goro Majima said:

Raiderjay said:

The elephant in the room we are not addressing....We don't have a gun problem, we have an epidemic mental health problem......
This all day. We've always owned guns in this country but for some reason the incidents keep happening and people seem crazier.
I think this is part of it but I think it's more complicated. Social media, mental health, proliferation of mind altering drugs, family and societal breakdown, victim adoration, upside down rules of right and wrong, the lack of God in families, schools, and society. The culture is completely broken.


Pretty much everything you listed, I'd argue, contributes to poor mental health. I agree we need to fix these things
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Rear Wheel Drive Sedan....has a nice ring to it.
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Frisco ISD is excusing any/all students today from absences due to a threat to shoot up a school. Sigh….

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Frisco ISD would like to inform you that the Frisco Police Department is currently investigating a threat that has been made to some of our secondary campuses via social media. We will send an update with any new information as soon as it is available.

After this past weekend's events at the Allen Outlet Mall, and an incident at Stonebriar Mall, we understand that safety concerns are high in our community, especially when it comes to our students. Student absences will be excused tomorrow across the District.

We are asking you to please speak with your students about how what they say, written or verbal, even as a joke, is taken seriously by Frisco ISD and the police department; students will be disciplined and charged by the law accordingly.

Threatening harm to a school campus or members of its student body, is punishable by law at minimum as a Class-A misdemeanor, a fine of up to $4,000 and up to a year in jail. The punishment can be as severe as a third-degree felony, punishable by up to $10,000 and two to 10 years in prison. Frisco ISD supports the Frisco Police Department's full prosecution of any individual that threatens harm to our students, staff and campuses.


There is no such thing as anonymity/privacy online. You cannot tell me the 'proper' authorities don't have the ability to quickly figure out what computer was used/when/where to make a threat on social media today.
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Re: Frisco

Feel like several years running there have been threats around STAAR testing dates (which is today).
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I don't remember that specifically but yes. I think it's over now for elementary schools, but those kids will miss out on planned end of the year parties etc.

Apparently elementary schools are 'ghost towns' today with attendance of over 70 percent in some classes/schools. Not the worst news to read about but steadily aggravating for parents/teachers/staff etc. Still probably a prudent decision by the school after this weekend in particular…no reason to cause more angst/stress/drama over attendance on a day such a threat is made…
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I propose we enforce immigration laws and punish weapons law violators.

We don't need more laws. Murder is illegal.
I absolutely agree. This is an important part of ways to mitigate.
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JamesBREI06 said:

ts5641 said:

Goro Majima said:

Raiderjay said:

The elephant in the room we are not addressing....We don't have a gun problem, we have an epidemic mental health problem......
This all day. We've always owned guns in this country but for some reason the incidents keep happening and people seem crazier.
I think this is part of it but I think it's more complicated. Social media, mental health, proliferation of mind altering drugs, family and societal breakdown, victim adoration, upside down rules of right and wrong, the lack of God in families, schools, and society. The culture is completely broken.


Pretty much everything you listed, I'd argue, contributes to poor mental health. I agree we need to fix these things
The real question is "why?"
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Goro Majima said:

JamesBREI06 said:

ts5641 said:

Goro Majima said:

Raiderjay said:

The elephant in the room we are not addressing....We don't have a gun problem, we have an epidemic mental health problem......
This all day. We've always owned guns in this country but for some reason the incidents keep happening and people seem crazier.
I think this is part of it but I think it's more complicated. Social media, mental health, proliferation of mind altering drugs, family and societal breakdown, victim adoration, upside down rules of right and wrong, the lack of God in families, schools, and society. The culture is completely broken.


Pretty much everything you listed, I'd argue, contributes to poor mental health. I agree we need to fix these things
The real question is "why?"


Lack of proper social integration due to crappy parenting, government gaslighting, social media
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So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)


But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.
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AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)


But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

The longer we go, the more it seems they may not know a whole lot about this guy (illegal). Or they don't want us to know more about this guy (Cartel/Gang).
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Just ask Jake from the AP, he's got the scoop.
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AggiePetro07 said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)


But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

The longer we go, the more it seems they may not know a whole lot about this guy (illegal). Or they don't want us to know more about this guy (Cartel/Gang).
It doesn't matter who it is the media will paint it one way always....Joe Biden could go on a shooting rampage and within an hour he'd be declared a right wing ultra maga white supremacist and a large percentage of this country would nod along.
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AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
Only white people are capable of being racist. /Marxist NPC
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.


Of course he can be racists. How many Hispanics whose family doesn't speak English are "White Supremacists"?

If this guy was a democrat in congress he'd be a person of color.

Stop being Obtuse.
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nortex97 said:

I don't remember that specifically but yes. I think it's over now for elementary schools, but those kids will miss out on planned end of the year parties etc.

Apparently elementary schools are 'ghost towns' today with attendance of over 70 percent in some classes/schools. Not the worst news to read about but steadily aggravating for parents/teachers/staff etc. Still probably a prudent decision by the school after this weekend in particular…no reason to cause more angst/stress/drama over attendance on a day such a threat is made…
How is that a prudent decision? Actually it's entirely an emotional response lacking logic. Is tomorrow going to be safer than today when they send their kid back to school? Was Friday last week any safer than today?

Allen was awful but to somehow tie what the lunatic did in the mall connecting dots to that means schools are at risk today is extremely irrational.
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He had a White Supremacy patch…….

And this guy wore Nazi garb. He's obviously one with that movement….

Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.


Its not that he was racist as much as calling him a "white supremacist" that people take an issue with. White Supremacy is about hating everyone not Christian Caucasian. Best I can tell, he was neither.

So why are we trying to make this about blaming white people?
“A republic, if you can keep it”

AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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Gyles Marrett said:

nortex97 said:

I don't remember that specifically but yes. I think it's over now for elementary schools, but those kids will miss out on planned end of the year parties etc.

Apparently elementary schools are 'ghost towns' today with attendance of over 70 percent in some classes/schools. Not the worst news to read about but steadily aggravating for parents/teachers/staff etc. Still probably a prudent decision by the school after this weekend in particular…no reason to cause more angst/stress/drama over attendance on a day such a threat is made…
How is that a prudent decision? Actually it's entirely an emotional response lacking logic. Is tomorrow going to be safer than today when they send their kid back to school? Was Friday last week any safer than today?

Allen was awful but to somehow tie what the lunatic did in the mall connecting dots to that means schools are at risk today is extremely irrational.
Its fear porn. Gotta remind the kids they aren't safe.
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I loved the fact that the MSM saw a photo/video of the perp being dead on the ground with a bullet in his head and blood coming out of his head while lying on the ground with a gun in his hand and was referred to as "the alleged shooter" for hours upon hours, but without an iota of hesitation, this "alleged shooter" the "White-Hispanic" is DEFINITELY a right-wing Nazi sympathizer...

And people wonder why nobody watches or reads the MSM anymore.
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
I used to work with a bunch of Mexicans at a curtain factory as a teen in the '00s. The racism that spewed forth was nothing like I'd seen before and nothing like anything I encountered again until being stationed in southern Italy with the Navy.
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
Racist doesn't equal white supremacist.
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False, to be racist one must first be in a position of power. Only white folks have power....Obama probably
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JWinTX said:

I loved the fact that the MSM saw a photo/video of the perp being dead on the ground with a bullet in his head and blood coming out of his head while lying on the ground with a gun in his hand and was referred to as "the alleged shooter" for hours upon hours, but without an iota of hesitation, this "alleged shooter" the "White-Hispanic" is DEFINITELY a right-wing Nazi sympathizer...

And people wonder why nobody watches or reads the MSM anymore.
And that same video shows no patch on the vest either
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TAMU1990 said:

Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
Racist doesn't equal white supremacist.
And it's hard to take any news on racism as credible when we have a media that pretends the only racists are whites vs anyone else and that black people cannot be racist. Racism exists in all races. It's not as widespread as the media acts that it is but it exists equally everywhere.
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.

But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.
for reference: see the user "smothered" here, who recently changed his name from "Ocho Ag"....
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ts5641 said:

hawk1689 said:

Ugh. Just found out that one of the victim's was a kid at my daughter's school. His two parents also. The brother is in ICU.
I'm so sorry. This is just sickening.


I didn't know the victims and I don't think my daughter did either. I'm just sick at my stomach for the people who did know them and for all of us that are going to have one more reason to keep our family out of the public domain.
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Charpie said:

AggieKatie2 said:

So far we have a:

Mid-30s male suspect of Hispanic decent whose parents speak Spanish as their primary language.

Lots of people in Mexico hate people of other races. Hell, as an 8th generation Texican, I was called pocho by a bunch of native Mexicans when I was at A&M. Racism isn't limited to white people.

Who was rumored to be in the Army but discharged due to mental illness. Worked previously as a security guard. (But was still able to obtain multiple firearms)

I didn't think this was a rumor.

And this Hispanic male with Spanish speaking parents is rumored to be a member of the extreme right and hated Jews and people of color (according to the media….WFAA)

See my comment above. Depending on which part of Latin America his family is from, you never know what his history might be. Heck, he might have had some strife with a Jew of Muslim or Indian here.



But his known victims so far have been Caucasian and Asian.


Soooo much doesn't add up here.

I don't know why y'all think that minorities can't be racists. So so many are.


Hispanic guy with a beef towards another race does NOT EQUATE TO "white supremacy"
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Saying that a Hispanic person can't be a white supremacist is applying rational thinking to a person that shot a bunch of strangers at a mall.

If you told me a black guy shot up a mall and the story was that he was a white supremacist I would be skeptical, but wouldn't dismiss it out of hand because you're talking about a person crazy enough to shoot a bunch of strangers, being a white supremacist would be lower on the crazy scale.


Even if he was a white supremacist that doesn't mean that being conservative/right wing means a person is racist any more than the dumbass Tennessee shooter that shot up a bank because he was anti-gun means that anyone that is anti-gun wants people dead. These people are crazy, they are not like normal people, they don't think the same.
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It's not statistically impossible but it is highly improbable. He is one of the darkest people he killed that day.

Racist? Sure. Tons of Latinos are racist. But a white supreme it's? Nah.

Very few Central Americans would be considered white.
 
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