Sorry if this has already been addressed ... but what would a ballon at 60K feet collect that a satellite couldn't collect?
Chinese Spy Balloon
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What are they expecting to see that they can't already see on Google maps?
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And you believe that? Right !!!Bubblez said:
Apparently, its just a weather balloon that blew off course.
We have had several reports across northwest MO of a large balloon visible on the horizon. It is now visible from our office in Pleasant Hill and the KC Metro. We have confirmed that it is not an NWS weather balloon. pic.twitter.com/CKQWOw7God
— NWS Kansas City (@NWSKansasCity) February 3, 2023
The Eagles might just be pulling the biggest NFL cheating scandel to date.
Could be some sort of SigIntwaitwhat? said:
What are they expecting to see that they can't already see on Google maps?
nothingfulshearAg96 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed ... but what would a ballon at 60K feet collect that a satellite couldn't collect?
this is just the ChiComs penetrating our defensive zones in Hawaii and Guam and the CONUS and seeing that we don't do anything
keep boiling the frog slowly
it also shows the impotence of the US leadership to stop it.
fulshearAg96 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed ... but what would a ballon at 60K feet collect that a satellite couldn't collect?
Signals, radio transmissions, and launch smaller spy drones.
waitwhat? said:
What are they expecting to see that they can't already see on Google maps?
I am seeing credible reports that the same balloons have been spotted over Hawaii and Guam in the past few years
Hmm.. wonder what the ChiComs could be interested at
Pearl Harbor
ICBM bases in Montana
and Andersen Air Force Base...
Broncos said:We have had several reports across northwest MO of a large balloon visible on the horizon. It is now visible from our office in Pleasant Hill and the KC Metro. We have confirmed that it is not an NWS weather balloon. pic.twitter.com/CKQWOw7God
— NWS Kansas City (@NWSKansasCity) February 3, 2023
The Eagles might just be pulling the biggest NFL cheating scandel to date.
How the hell is this idiotic administration not considering this an invasion?
Also testing our response...Not a Bot said:fulshearAg96 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed ... but what would a ballon at 60K feet collect that a satellite couldn't collect?
Signals, radio transmissions, and launch smaller spy drones.
Whiteman Air Force Basefka ftc said:
Sensor pack floating underneath is the size of the firetruck. And its flying over our most sensitive home defense systems.
I am sure the weather will just detour over Area 51 and White Sands next, Then head over Ft Hood and up to Blue Rigde.
No worries at all.
and NORAD headquarters
Shoot it down!
Kidding, right?waitwhat? said:
What are they expecting to see that they can't already see on Google maps?
Balloon could be collecting all sorts of additional data that a satellite may not.
Plus, we can ground jam satellites - else China would send us posters of high-res pics of Biden's solar panels on the White House.
With this balloon, there can be various shielding to countermeasure jamming or, more important, the data could be contained onboard then retrieved later - think old fashion film cameras.
This thing should have already been on the ground and torn apart. Why it has not been should cause grave concern to US citizens.
Biden has allowed an invasion of this Country and is now actively REFUSING to defend our airspace allowing for active, high-res recon of our most sensitive military installations.
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Not a Bot said:fulshearAg96 said:
Sorry if this has already been addressed ... but what would a ballon at 60K feet collect that a satellite couldn't collect?
Signals, radio transmissions, and launch smaller spy drones.
That last one could be scary.
When Canada's response is stronger than Biden's, we may be in trouble.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-summons-chinese-ambassador-over-high-altitude-surveillance-balloon-1.6258826
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-summons-chinese-ambassador-over-high-altitude-surveillance-balloon-1.6258826
Quote:
OTTAWA - Canada announced that it had called China's ambassador onto the carpet as Ottawa and Washington expressed their disapproval Friday over a high-altitude balloon found to have been hovering over sensitive sites in the United States.
Chinese Ambassador Cong Peiwu was summoned for the dressing down from Global Affairs Canada officials after the balloon was spotted in U.S. airspace on Thursday, according to GAC spokeswoman Charlotte MacLeod.
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"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
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complete coincidence where a Chinese weather balloon just goes off course from 6000 miles away
We have a BKC-135 Stratotanker that is about to literally fly underneath the thing.
Wonder if it's there to refuel an invisible (to ADS) monitoring aircraft?
Edit to add: call sign DIXIE16.
Wonder if it's there to refuel an invisible (to ADS) monitoring aircraft?
Edit to add: call sign DIXIE16.
Broncos said:We have had several reports across northwest MO of a large balloon visible on the horizon. It is now visible from our office in Pleasant Hill and the KC Metro. We have confirmed that it is not an NWS weather balloon. pic.twitter.com/CKQWOw7God
— NWS Kansas City (@NWSKansasCity) February 3, 2023
The Eagles might just be pulling the biggest NFL cheating scandel to date.
My God they are just letting it go across the country.
It is over KC now.
Lmao.
It is over KC now.
Lmao.
"Canada Says 'Potential Second Incident' Linked To Spy Balloon"
https://www.barrons.com/news/canada-says-potential-second-incident-linked-to-spy-balloon-01675402508
"A high-altitude surveillance balloon was detected and its movements are being actively tracked," Canada's defense department said in a statement.
"Canadians are safe and Canada is taking steps to ensure the security of its airspace, including the monitoring of a potential second incident."
"Canada's intelligence agencies are working with American partners and continue to take all necessary measures to safeguard Canada's sensitive information from foreign intelligence threats."
https://www.barrons.com/news/canada-says-potential-second-incident-linked-to-spy-balloon-01675402508
"A high-altitude surveillance balloon was detected and its movements are being actively tracked," Canada's defense department said in a statement.
"Canadians are safe and Canada is taking steps to ensure the security of its airspace, including the monitoring of a potential second incident."
"Canada's intelligence agencies are working with American partners and continue to take all necessary measures to safeguard Canada's sensitive information from foreign intelligence threats."
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So much winning for the PRC…..
Should have been whacked after entering our airspace - ocean landing and recovery or mountain recovery.
- No doubt it gathered some intelligence
- If we really rendered it ineffective by some EW means, they got a peek at that
- If we shoot it down, they get a peek at a 60,000 ft capability
- If we do nothing, super winning and lots of intelligence
- Test Biden resolve
Should have been whacked after entering our airspace - ocean landing and recovery or mountain recovery.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
They get over the Bible Belt and Jesus gonna be after this flying spyship.
But DNC Jesus will only just talk sternly with them.
But DNC Jesus will only just talk sternly with them.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
Don't worry, if it gets down closer to Memphis, the gangs and cops will gun it down.
4stringAg said:
Don't worry, if it gets down closer to Memphis, the gangs and cops will gun it down.
Interesting how "gangs and cops" don't look odd being together in that sentence.
Just over twenty years ago and over Hainan Islands, things were very different between US and China.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
FIFY4stringAg said:
Don't worry, if it gets down closer to Memphis, the gangs of cops will gun it down.
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surprise surprise
Dry run: Balloons called top 'delivery platform' for nuclear EMP attack
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist | February 03, 2023 10:37 AM
High-altitude balloons, such as the one China has floated over mountain state military bases this week, are considered a key "delivery platform" for secret nuclear strikes on America's electric grid, according to intelligence officials.
Spy balloons, used by Japan to drop bombs during World War II, are now far more sophisticated, can fly at up to 200,000 feet, evade detection, and can carry a small nuclear bomb that, if exploded in the atmosphere, would shut down the grid and wipe out electronics in a many-state-wide area.
The threat of balloon-launched electromagnetic pulse attacks was warned about by a congressional EMP commission and inside the military several years ago.
In a 2015 report for the American Leadership & Policy Foundation, Air Force Maj. David Stuckenberg, one of the nation's leading EMP experts, wrote extensively about the threat balloons carrying bombs pose to national security.
"Using a balloon as a WMD/WME platform could provide adversaries with a pallet of altitudes and payload options with which to maximize offensive effects against the U.S.," he wrote in the report.
On Friday, he told Secrets, "China's recent balloon flyover of the United States is clearly a provocative and aggressive act. It was most likely a type of dry run meant to send a strategic message to the USA. We must not take this for granted."
Dry run: Balloons called top 'delivery platform' for nuclear EMP attack
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist | February 03, 2023 10:37 AM
High-altitude balloons, such as the one China has floated over mountain state military bases this week, are considered a key "delivery platform" for secret nuclear strikes on America's electric grid, according to intelligence officials.
Spy balloons, used by Japan to drop bombs during World War II, are now far more sophisticated, can fly at up to 200,000 feet, evade detection, and can carry a small nuclear bomb that, if exploded in the atmosphere, would shut down the grid and wipe out electronics in a many-state-wide area.
The threat of balloon-launched electromagnetic pulse attacks was warned about by a congressional EMP commission and inside the military several years ago.
In a 2015 report for the American Leadership & Policy Foundation, Air Force Maj. David Stuckenberg, one of the nation's leading EMP experts, wrote extensively about the threat balloons carrying bombs pose to national security.
"Using a balloon as a WMD/WME platform could provide adversaries with a pallet of altitudes and payload options with which to maximize offensive effects against the U.S.," he wrote in the report.
On Friday, he told Secrets, "China's recent balloon flyover of the United States is clearly a provocative and aggressive act. It was most likely a type of dry run meant to send a strategic message to the USA. We must not take this for granted."
Interesting, but its not quite so easy. But this is a dangerous precedent nonetheless.
https://www.futurescience.com/emp/EMP-balloon.html
Quote:
There are two principal disadvantages of balloons. Balloons cannot carry a nuclear warhead anywhere close to being high enough for an EMP attack that would cover the continental United States (or a similar area in another geographical region). Current balloon technology also cannot get the weapon high enough for a maximally-effective E1 pulse.
The pulse will lose some of its coherence at the lower altitudes reachable by balloon, therefore, the magnitude of the E1 electromagnetic pulse would probably be limited to a maximum of 15,000 to 20,000 volts per meter. (This is still much larger than the EMP caused at Hawaii by Starfish Prime or over Kazakhstan by the Soviet Operation K tests.) There is also a slight disadvantage in lack of control after a balloon launch, but this can be mitigated by careful attention to weather conditions.
https://www.futurescience.com/emp/EMP-balloon.html
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
Anyone reading this thread who has not read John Matherson's One Second After book need to go buy it.
I find it unimaginable as we sit here allowing China to fly surveillance over the US.
A bio-weapon attack could be happening at this moment.
I find it unimaginable as we sit here allowing China to fly surveillance over the US.
A bio-weapon attack could be happening at this moment.
"The absence of the word accountability is not the same as wanting no accountability" -unknown
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
"You can never go wrong by staying silent if there is nothing apt to say" -Walter Isaacson
fixer said:
My God they are just letting it go across the country.
It is over KC now.
Lmao.
Damn Chinese are the lowest dregs of society- Philadelphia Eagles fans.
I just ordered that a few weeks back. Haven't started it yet. Saw where it might be made into a show.
I can think of a good reason they might not want to take this balloon down. As noted on here, it doesn't seem like a balloon would provide them much intel that a satellite couldn't do better. But, if it is indeed a trial run at a nuke delivery system, perhaps part of the test is to see how we would counteract the incursion and strategize around our response. Letting the balloon go tells them nothing.
The dead of winter would seem to be a strange time for a bio-attack of this nature.fka ftc said:
Anyone reading this thread who has not read John Matherson's One Second After book need to go buy it.
I find it unimaginable as we sit here allowing China to fly surveillance over the US.
A bio-weapon attack could be happening at this moment.
Current jet stream conditions.
fka ftc said:
A bio-weapon attack could be happening at this moment.
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