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How long before I can buy a replica spy balloon from air mall catalog?
Chinese spy balloon merch gonna be big this year.
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You guys claiming that the 3 prior balloons never happened? "Fake balloons" is the new argument? Has Trump weighed in on why he did nothing, or why he never knew about it?
As expected, "but Trump" is fake news:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official
What balloons?
And if it fits the pattern, it will get walked back to it didn't happen at all.TxAgLaw03RW said:
As expected, "but Trump" is fake news:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official
The Chinese spy balloon thread has devolved into infighting and fighting about trump.
Par for the course then. Carry on,
Par for the course then. Carry on,
Never understands why people try and compare Biden v Trump regarding taking assertive, direct and consequential action.
The last week is defending Biden's inaction by saying Trump watched balloons too, which is now shown to be fake news.
What is not fake news is Trump sending a missile to cut a terrorist leader to bits and made no apologies for it. Biden, it his ultimate wisdom and experience, criticized Trump heavily saying Trump was out of control.
Biden is not on the side of America. And those who voted for Joe should reap what they tried to sow.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-trump-tossed-a-stick-of-dynamite-into-a-tinderbox-with-killing-of-qassem-soleimani
The last week is defending Biden's inaction by saying Trump watched balloons too, which is now shown to be fake news.
What is not fake news is Trump sending a missile to cut a terrorist leader to bits and made no apologies for it. Biden, it his ultimate wisdom and experience, criticized Trump heavily saying Trump was out of control.
Biden is not on the side of America. And those who voted for Joe should reap what they tried to sow.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-trump-tossed-a-stick-of-dynamite-into-a-tinderbox-with-killing-of-qassem-soleimani
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This spy balloon drama snuck up on us. No warning. somebody takes a photo of spy balloon over Montana and we along for the ride.People absolutely love the spy balloon. they can't get enough.
shot down a Chinese spy balloon with a gd air-to-air missile.
Ww3 drones on.
What's next?
Ww3 drones on.
What's next?
What's next?
Tensions escalate. Theres some sort of incident on the high seas. That would be my guess.
Tensions escalate. Theres some sort of incident on the high seas. That would be my guess.
The media has already moved on to "Trump balloons".
The media could be investigating into the matter further. But no, they stop at Trump.
There is no way we survive as a cohesive society with a media function that resembles two 4 year olds blaming each other for something.
The media could be investigating into the matter further. But no, they stop at Trump.
There is no way we survive as a cohesive society with a media function that resembles two 4 year olds blaming each other for something.
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Remember when we were told that Joe was smart by waiting to shoot the balloon down over the east coast, just a short ride from strategic naval assets for recovery?
"US ships have formed a perimeter off the coast of South Carolina where the Chinese spy balloon was shot down as a salvage vessel won't be at the scene for days."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11713943/Fears-grow-China-reach-spy-balloon-wreckage-ahead-Navy.html
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"US ships have formed a perimeter off the coast of South Carolina where the Chinese spy balloon was shot down as a salvage vessel won't be at the scene for days."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11713943/Fears-grow-China-reach-spy-balloon-wreckage-ahead-Navy.html
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what is the point of shooting it down AFTER it has completely traversed all of our military bases?!MarathonAg12 said:I'm not former. I'm current.aggielostinETX said:
So it seems the former military guys here all agree that we should not have shoot it down prior to this. Why did we even let it get here?
This seems like a massive **** up by our military to allow it to even get over our air space. Explain that.
That's what I mean by carrying the water. Y'all seem to be defending, poor performance and bad decisions.
For reasons that go beyond your comprehension of national defense. There are experts conducting surviellnce in china, the Pacific Ocean and at home. This goes way beyond "see bad balloon, shoot bad balloon". With some of the most sophisticated intelligence gathering platforms in the world, both on ground and space, we deemed it to be a threat not worth shooting down over American soil.
Think strategic level impacts and influence and not tactical capabilities.
even using sixth grade logic-
either DO NOT SHOOT IT DOWN or shoot it down BEFORE it crosses the entire country.
literally, a 12 year old can understand this concept.
If the military recommended waiting until it was over water before shooting it down, can we assume they had a good idea of its surveillance capabilities and our ability to mitigate it?
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Yep.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
they'll make a major motion picture out of this spy balloon drama. Probably be out next summer.
I hope it is in the fashion of "Team America: world police"
That's funny!
Might want to edit that image before you catch a ban.
Geddy Lee soul patch said:
If the military recommended waiting until it was over water before shooting it down, can we assume they had a good idea of its surveillance capabilities and our ability to mitigate it?
That's putting a lot of stock in the military's analysis. Realistically they'd never know if it had the capability ti drop a small grenade size capsule of virus or other biowarfare.
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Might want to edit that image before you catch a ban.
I say it stays. We need more **** Joe Biden around here.
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One thing that the balloon has done is divert everyone's attention from Biden's son's laptop and other Biden scandals.
And it was over water before reaching the lower 48, and we were tracking it.evan_aggie said:Geddy Lee soul patch said:
If the military recommended waiting until it was over water before shooting it down, can we assume they had a good idea of its surveillance capabilities and our ability to mitigate it?
That's putting a lot of stock in the military's analysis. Realistically they'd never know if it had the capability ti drop a small grenade size capsule of virus or other biowarfare.
If Trump was in office, it would have been shot down a little west of Alaska
Sneaky way to get an EMP device over an area at altitude as well. Probably not at the optimal altitude but it's something to be wary of. In truth this was probably a trial to see how well we would detect and react to this type of thing.
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Like from the other thread.Jabin said:
One thing that the balloon has done is divert everyone's attention from Biden's son's laptop and other Biden scandals.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11716267/Biden-quietly-releases-terrorist-Belize-16-years-CIA-custody-Guantanamo-Bay.html
- Majid Khan,42, was moved to Belize on Thursday after spending 16 years in CIA custody
- Authorities say he helped deliver money and transport other senior al Qaeda officials ahead of an attack on an Indonesian hotel in 2003
- Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also allegedly planned to use him to attack US gas stations and water reservoirs
Good thing we have foreign press.
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Which is why it's bad PR for the DemocratsStat Monitor Repairman said:
This spy balloon drama snuck up on us. No warning. somebody takes a photo of spy balloon over Montana and we along for the ride.People absolutely love the spy balloon. they can't get enough.
How much does an EMP device weigh and what was the load capacity of the balloon?
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One of my favorite movies as a kid.
I don't know about that ballon but A balloon sized appropriately can take up a considerable payload and a few hundred pounds is more than enough for a large thermonuclear device.
That's not my understanding.
To create a meaningful EMP, you'd need a large bomb. And large bombs are very heavy, as in tons.
You also need a lot of altitude.
I'm not at all an expert, so could easily be very wrong on this. But I suspect that everyone speculating that this could have carried an EMP device are speculating even more wildly.
My speculation is that the odds of this balloon carrying or even being capable of carrying an EMP device are close to zero.
To create a meaningful EMP, you'd need a large bomb. And large bombs are very heavy, as in tons.
You also need a lot of altitude.
I'm not at all an expert, so could easily be very wrong on this. But I suspect that everyone speculating that this could have carried an EMP device are speculating even more wildly.
My speculation is that the odds of this balloon carrying or even being capable of carrying an EMP device are close to zero.
I'm not saying THIS balloon at all. I'm just saying maybe China is watching to see how we react to A balloon, and that such a thing could catch us unaware if our reaction was too nonchalant.
I also think the altitude is insufficient to make it an effective delivery system for EMP but do not know for sure.
I also think the altitude is insufficient to make it an effective delivery system for EMP but do not know for sure.
Below optimal altitude but some scuttle is that the balloon failed to reach its designed altitude.MouthBQ98 said:
Sneaky way to get an EMP device over an area at altitude as well. Probably not at the optimal altitude but it's something to be wary of. In truth this was probably a trial to see how well we would detect and react to this type of thing.
The size and wait of the payload and our refusal to take action early presents a clear and present danger to our Country. And Biden is just going to brag how he took Cornpop the Balloon behind the woodshed and wore him out.
EMP is by and far the most realistic, real time, unprepared for threat we face.
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