LMCane said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Here is my question:

Nobody even knew about this thing until pilots reported it

And maybe that IS the idea with these things. We know in seconds if Beijing launches a missile at us, but what about these balloons? Is there any real way to track them especially at the altitude they usually fly at?

If we don't it seems a great way to implement a low tech sneak EMP attack on major cities

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that's incorrect

DOD knew about this balloon likely as soon as it was released in China

and certainly once it started to move across the Pacific towards the Aleutians

Canada knew about it as well before it entered Canadian airspace

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Reginald Cousins said:

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LMCane said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Here is my question:

Nobody even knew about this thing until pilots reported it

And maybe that IS the idea with these things. We know in seconds if Beijing launches a missile at us, but what about these balloons? Is there any real way to track them especially at the altitude they usually fly at?

If we don't it seems a great way to implement a low tech sneak EMP attack on major cities

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that's incorrect

DOD knew about this balloon likely as soon as it was released in China

and certainly once it started to move across the Pacific towards the Aleutians

Canada knew about it as well before it entered Canadian airspace

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Then why does this article say the 3 last admin were discovered after?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official

New techniques? Foreign assets letting us know?

I guess I'm saying either something recently changed or this article contradicts that. Irrespective of which admin did or didn't do what I'm focused more on the do we know when it leaves China or not?

"The official told Fox News that "this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left."

"They went undetected," the official told Fox News Digital."

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Trump and a number of his top national security and defense officials refuted the claim, telling Fox News Digital that it "never happened."

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bmks270 said:

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Reginald Cousins said:

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LMCane said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Here is my question:

Nobody even knew about this thing until pilots reported it

And maybe that IS the idea with these things. We know in seconds if Beijing launches a missile at us, but what about these balloons? Is there any real way to track them especially at the altitude they usually fly at?

If we don't it seems a great way to implement a low tech sneak EMP attack on major cities

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that's incorrect

DOD knew about this balloon likely as soon as it was released in China

and certainly once it started to move across the Pacific towards the Aleutians

Canada knew about it as well before it entered Canadian airspace

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Then why does this article say the 3 last admin were discovered after?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official

New techniques? Foreign assets letting us know?

I guess I'm saying either something recently changed or this article contradicts that. Irrespective of which admin did or didn't do what I'm focused more on the do we know when it leaves China or not?

"The official told Fox News that "this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left."

"They went undetected," the official told Fox News Digital."

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We don't know.

Some people deny it.


Are you intentionally omitting this:

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Trump and a number of his top national security and defense officials refuted the claim, telling Fox News Digital that it "never happened."

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Reginald Cousins said:

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bmks270 said:

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Reginald Cousins said:

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LMCane said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Here is my question:

Nobody even knew about this thing until pilots reported it

And maybe that IS the idea with these things. We know in seconds if Beijing launches a missile at us, but what about these balloons? Is there any real way to track them especially at the altitude they usually fly at?

If we don't it seems a great way to implement a low tech sneak EMP attack on major cities

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that's incorrect

DOD knew about this balloon likely as soon as it was released in China

and certainly once it started to move across the Pacific towards the Aleutians

Canada knew about it as well before it entered Canadian airspace

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Then why does this article say the 3 last admin were discovered after?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official

New techniques? Foreign assets letting us know?

I guess I'm saying either something recently changed or this article contradicts that. Irrespective of which admin did or didn't do what I'm focused more on the do we know when it leaves China or not?

"The official told Fox News that "this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left."

"They went undetected," the official told Fox News Digital."

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We don't know.

Some people deny it.


Are you intentionally omitting this:

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Trump and a number of his top national security and defense officials refuted the claim, telling Fox News Digital that it "never happened."

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I voted for Trump twice and would vote for even the swampiest R over ANY D. But if DoD found out after and he never knew of course he responded that way. Let's not politicize my original question.

That is, where is the truth? LMCane says we can see em damn near immediately.

This article says they went undetected.

Leave the rest out.

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ArbAg said:

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Reginald Cousins said:

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bmks270 said:

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Reginald Cousins said:

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LMCane said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Here is my question:

Nobody even knew about this thing until pilots reported it

And maybe that IS the idea with these things. We know in seconds if Beijing launches a missile at us, but what about these balloons? Is there any real way to track them especially at the altitude they usually fly at?

If we don't it seems a great way to implement a low tech sneak EMP attack on major cities

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that's incorrect

DOD knew about this balloon likely as soon as it was released in China

and certainly once it started to move across the Pacific towards the Aleutians

Canada knew about it as well before it entered Canadian airspace

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Then why does this article say the 3 last admin were discovered after?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-spy-balloons-over-us-during-trump-admin-discovered-after-he-left-office-senior-biden-official

New techniques? Foreign assets letting us know?

I guess I'm saying either something recently changed or this article contradicts that. Irrespective of which admin did or didn't do what I'm focused more on the do we know when it leaves China or not?

"The official told Fox News that "this information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left."

"They went undetected," the official told Fox News Digital."

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We don't know.

Some people deny it.


Are you intentionally omitting this:

Quote:

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Trump and a number of his top national security and defense officials refuted the claim, telling Fox News Digital that it "never happened."

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I voted for Trump twice and would vote for even the swampiest R over ANY D. But if DoD found out after and he never knew of course he responded that way. Let's not politicize my original question.

That is, where is the truth? LMCane says we can see em damn near immediately.

This article says they went undetected.

Leave the rest out.

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The accuracy of the article can't be questioned?

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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The entire US could turn in to a 'Last of Us' style wasteland and people would still be arguing about Trump.

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moses1084ever said:

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Are we seriously meant to believe that 3 balloons crossed into US airspace UNDETECTED during the Trump years? We spend how much again on defense?

I don't know what is worse - whether they were truly undetected or if they were detected but not reported to the admin.

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agent-maroon said:

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They could have picked any number of "undetected" balloons they wanted. Wonder what the significance of quantity 3 would be?

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TRADUCTOR said:

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If the vid I saw was real, then the ballon was not shot. The spy device EVIDENCE was obliterated and shrapnel made balloon pop.

Like this was super guaranteed inquiring adventurous citizens would never get hands on spy device intact.

Like Hunters laptop was on the ballon.

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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If the vid I saw was real, then the ballon was not shot. The spy device EVIDENCE was obliterated and shrapnel made balloon pop.

Like this was super guaranteed inquiring adventurous citizens would never get hands on spy device intact.

Like Hunters laptop was on the ballon.

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I wonder if our transparent administration will lay it all out on a hangar floor so the world can see it?

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fka ftc said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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If the vid I saw was real, then the ballon was not shot. The spy device EVIDENCE was obliterated and shrapnel made balloon pop.

Like this was super guaranteed inquiring adventurous citizens would never get hands on spy device intact.

Like Hunters laptop was on the ballon.

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I wonder if our transparent administration will lay it all out on a hangar floor so the world can see it?

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They are moving it to Quantico where it will be clean, reassembled, improvements made where necessary, packed with our military secretes then shipped back to China in return for Hunter getting some more diamonds.

Prove me wrong.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Also,

What happened with the video on twitter of the explosion in the sky as the spy ballon meandered over Montana. Did that ever get sorted out?

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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BREAKING: John Kirby just announced that the U.S. shot down another balloon in the past hour over Alaska. It came down on ice in U.S. territorial waters

— John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) February 10, 2023