Captain Winky said:

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This show sucks. I'm out

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It's bad.

TCTTS said:

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This reminds me, seeing as season four is in 4K, I went back and checked last night to see if they'd upgraded season one, they have, and it looks absolutely incredible. The first three seasons had been in 1080p for years, and in fact now they're all in glorious 4K. Which is all the more reason to do a season one rewatch at the end of this season, as it'll almost be like seeing it again for the first time. Can't wait.

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I discovered tonight that my Max subscription is no longer 4k…

We've had it free for years through At&T but then I googled that the legacy customers lost that perk sometime in December. Wtf.

Now I have to pay $20/mo for 4k+atmos? Sucks.

And I've got a LG OLED with big time 5.2.4 atmos system. Oh well. I'll prolly just cancel peacock and sack up.

This is news to me! I was about to go upgrade my plan, but honestly, my family probably watches HBO the least of our subscription services so I guess I'll settle for simple HD.

Ugh…really trying to like it…but this episode did nothing to advance the plot, characters, nothing.

That whole episode could have been 5 lines in episode 2.

I didn't think this episode "sucked," but it was definitely a momentum killer. Especially after how great the last episode was. When you open with a pregame speech for a manhunt, that's setting up expectations for an actual, you know... manhunt. Instead, it was just more interviews and clue finding, which is fine, but that stuff should have been intercut with some actual manhunt action. Split up Danvers and Navarro, have one of them following leads around town and the other leading/aiding the manhunt. Give us some action, and let us feel like we're on Clarke's heals.

As for the ending, I don't know what to think of Lund going full Exorcist and speaking to Navarro from the beyond or whatever. I'm assuming she imagined that? But if not, the show might very well have just jumped the shark.

It was also kind of dumb at the end that Pete was like, "I cracked it," re: Annie's phone. Ha, what does that even mean? How on Earth does a non-hacker do that, seeing as a locked iPhone is a notoriously challenging piece of tech to "crack."

Overall, though, I'm still into it, and the mystery remains one of the most intriguing I've seen in a while. But yeah, I don't get what Lopez was thinking with this episode. Good thing is, there are still some interesting, much more intense plot points teased in the trailers that will hopefully rev things up again.

Way, way too slow of a burn considering there are only 6 episodes. Either they just don't have enough story to even warrant 6 episodes, or they are going to try to pack too much into the last couple of episodes.

Either way, this season has been a huge letdown. Most of the episodes are like watching paint dry with a few interesting moments thrown in.

Didn't realize it's 6 episodes rather than 8, which actually annoys me that they we are spending SO much time away from the actual mystery (Danver's stepdaughter, Navarro's boytoy, Navarro's sister, baby cop's wife).

This episode wasn't terrible, but it was incredibly dull. The supernatural stuff are clearly all in Navarro's head, as she's not really responding to them, but I'm not sure I like how heavily this season is delving into the supernatural. I preferred its more subtle inclusion like in season 1 which also explained it away early so you recognized that it wasn't actually supernatural.

Nevertheless, I suspect we might get an explanation for the vision's with the contaminated water.

I agree this episode kind of lingered - someone mentioned it was treading water. The Navarro open was definitely a flashback because of the lighting - when she first went to arrest Anne. I said "Oh! This is def in the past, it's bright outside!" Then Navarro and Danvers are riding ~ middle of the episode and it's definitely bright outside. That *did* bother me, I almost thought we were back in another flashback.

It's easy for us to dunk on one episode as they're released weekly. And we are ALL comparing it to S1 which is gonna be unfair to any show, but here we are!

I thought it was pretty clear that Danvers was covering up Navarro probably icing Wheeler sitting in that chair whistling. Navarro has every motivation to end Wheeler right there - and Danvers likes to do things 'by the book' (I use that loosely). Danvers helps cover it up, Navarro partly blames Danvers hesitation for letting homegirl die in the first place.

I could not care any less about Navarro's 'babygirl' little sister; however the gutted ship was a pretty cool backdrop on the ice.

TCTTS said:

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I didn't think this episode "sucked," but it was definitely a momentum killer. Especially after how great the last episode was. When you open with a pregame speech for a manhunt, that's setting up expectations for an actual, you know... manhunt. Instead, it was just more interviews and clue finding, which is fine, but that stuff should have been intercut with some actual manhunt action. Split up Danvers and Navarro, have one of them following leads around town and the other leading/aiding the manhunt. Give us some action, and let us feel like we're on Clarke's heals.

As for the ending, I don't know what to think of Lund going full Exorcist and speaking to Navarro from the beyond or whatever. I'm assuming she imagined that? But if not, the show might very well have just jumped the shark.

It was also kind of dumb at the end that Pete was like, "I cracked it," re: Annie's phone. Ha, what does that even mean? How on Earth does a non-hacker do that, seeing as a locked iPhone is a notoriously challenging piece of tech to "crack."

Overall, though, I'm still into it, and the mystery remains one of the most intriguing I've seen in a while. But yeah, I don't get what Lopez was thinking with this episode. Good thing is, there are still some interesting, much more intense plot points teased in the trailers that will hopefully rev things up again.

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This was the first episode to me where the cracks are too big to ignore. I don't expect perfection, but last night I rolled my eyes several times. My biggest complaint at the moment was the show leaning into whether what everyone is seeing is reality, fiction, spiritual, etc. The scene with the orange was dumb. The scene at the hospital with the scientist was equally bad IMO. This season seems to be struggling to find the balance between thriller and horror. The scenes with Hank aren't great. Given the incompetence of so many of the police around here are we really supposed to think Danvers is any better? A lot of the times her statement about asking the right questions is falling flat because she's not exactly lighting the world on fire with her investigative abilities either. She seems almost more to be of the belief that things are going to fall into her lap. Bringing in the vet to say the guys didn't die outside, ok how about building such a profound statement with something more? Now we know the Wheeler case means Danvers or Navarro is covering for the other one killing a guy.

I'll keep watching but this episode really rubbed me the wrong way. It also gives me pause when considering what kind of resolution we can expect with this season. This episode was crying out for something to push the narrative forward and it really fell flat IMO. Especially when you think back season 1 when Marty and Rust had the showdown in the swamp, that moment linked them together forever and how that situation also kept propelling them forward with finding the kids.

Did I miss something with the importance of the orange? It was shown multiple times with Navarro in this episode and then I noticed it's shown multiple times in the intro song as well.

For a six episode season this is really moving slowly, feels like they only have enough story for 4 episodes and are dragging things out.

Yeah, the Exorcist moment felt like a bridge too far for me. If it's gonna go full supernatural, then whatever, but what it's doing now where where it's kind of doing it but not really committing to it, is just kind of annoying imo.

And then Navarro throwing the orange, and having it thrown back, and then her leaving the search immediately as she gets called on the radio, felt like the dumbest scene to me. Sorry, but if that actually happened, you don't leave that area until you find whoever threw the orange. She just leaves?

I'm gonna be annoyed if it ends up being mass delusions / visions due to something in the water.

The closest comparison to this show than I can think of is Mare of Easttown, and that show only got better each episode. So far, this is kind of going in the opposite direction.

I don't think this show will end up being anywhere near as good as that was, but I guess we'll see.

Still time for this show to improve, but right now it's starting to stoop to the level of Season 2. Still entertaining enough to keep me...and better than a lot of stuff on TV...but not even in the same universe as Season 1, and a significant step down from Season 3. Hoping this show turns the corner and surprises me.

I'm still enjoying it, just had high hopes I guess and a bit let down. Hope it doesn't lose me altogether.

BowSowy said:

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Way, way too slow of a burn considering there are only 6 episodes. Either they just don't have enough story to even warrant 6 episodes, or they are going to try to pack too much into the last couple of episodes.

Either way, this season has been a huge letdown. Most of the episodes are like watching paint dry with a few interesting moments thrown in.

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Oh geez, I was assuming there were 8 or so. Yeah, next episode has got to be pivotal.

Remember the stories John use to tell us about the the three chinamen playing Fantan? This guy runs up to them and says, "Hey, the world's coming to an end!" and the first one says, "Well, I best go to the mission and pray," and the second one says, "Well, hell, I'm gonna go and buy me a case of Mezcal and six *****s," and the third one says "Well, I'm gonna finish the game."

El Gallo Blanco said:

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C@LAg said:

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agreed with both takes. I will finish watching it, but I am not enjoying it at all.

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LOL I will never understand that...why would you do that? Not enjoying AT ALL? Not more than watching grass grow?

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we are in a slow TV season right now. practically no alternatives airing anywhere.

consider it a variation of TCTTS hate-watching Legacy of Monsters to its end. Same concept.

not that hard to understand.

C@LAg said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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C@LAg said:

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agreed with both takes. I will finish watching it, but I am not enjoying it at all.

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LOL I will never understand that...why would you do that? Not enjoying AT ALL? Not more than watching grass grow?

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we are in a slow TV season right now. practically no alternatives airing anywhere.

consider it a variation of TCTTS hate-watching Legacy of Monsters to its end. Same concept.

not that hard to understand.

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Come on, just admit you are kiiind of enjoying it, to some degree.

Boring episode, but no intentions of stopping. Based on the reviews of the season posted earlier, I imagine they tie this thing together in a satisfying way. I really have no idea how at this point though, with the supernatural elements or leaning into the "oh, it's just swamp gas" reveal, both seem quite the letdown. Maybe the cave will add some intriguing new elements to the case.

It's annoying that their track-record with this show is so sporadic. I have my hopes, but definitely a letdown of an episode. After the first couple of episodes of S1, I didn't think it was going to turn into something great like it did either though.