Well, looks like I'll be skipping season 5.

BassCowboy33 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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SMFH. What a joke.

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Not surprising. We've already discussed how it was the most-watched season in True Detective history. Seems logical that HBO would give the creators another round.

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In no world is s4 better than s1. Not even by 1%

Finally forced myself to finish this

What a terrible giant pile of ***** I didn't even buy in after the first episode and everyone was trying to convince themselves it was going to be awesome. The ****ty cgi and Billie Eilish theme was enough to set off my red flags that this was gonna be awful

Issa Lopez finally got to stick it to all the men she's hated in her life so good for her I guess

We binged the season over two nights and actually enjoyed it. Lots of unexplained motivations and plot "happenings" but those didn't ruin anything for us. Not as tight of a story as S1 obviously, but none of the subsequent offerings have touched that for us, so we weren't expecting it to. Well-acted and the setting was spooky as hell. Knew nothing about the writer until I checked this thread this morning and honestly don't care that much.

I admittedly have a lower bar for "acceptable" when it comes to tv and movies than some other posters here. I enjoyed this one.

I cannot imagine watching episodes three and four back to back. They were hard enough to get through on their own. And personally, if anything, I needed a break each week from that setting. It was just brutal, and not in an interesting way.

Another thing about this season that was terrible and downright insulting, were the tie-ins to season 1.

I'm pretty sure it's been addressed and this is accurate - but it's so obvious this was originally written as a separate IP - HBO got it, liked it enough, and then told Lopez they wanted this to be the new season of True Detective. Then she (or them) went in and added in all the forced and stupid connections to season 1.

The strategy worked because people were talking and excited about seeing the Carcosa references and "OMG THAT'S RUST'S MOM"... so I can't blame them for taking that approach. But in the end, it was obviously all shoe-horned in and felt so cheap, and probably a big reason why the finale is getting trashed so much.

I almost turned it off when Clark said "Time is a flat circle"... what an insult to one of the greatest performances of all time.

Sex Panther said:

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Another thing about this season that was terrible and downright insulting, were the tie-ins to season 1.

I'm pretty sure it's been addressed and this is accurate - but it's so obvious this was originally written as a separate IP - HBO got it, liked it enough, and then told Lopez they wanted this to be the new season of True Detective. Then she (or them) went in and added in all the forced and stupid connections to season 1.

The strategy worked because people were talking and excited about seeing the Carcosa references and "OMG THAT'S RUST'S MOM"... so I can't blame them for taking that strategy. But in the end, it was obviously all shoe-horned in and felt so cheap, and probably a big reason why the finale is getting trashed so much.

I almost turned it off when Clark said "Time is a flat circle"... what an insult to one of the greatest performances of all time.

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Very well said. And while we are on the subject, just one of MANY things that made TD1 great, was the casting. I felt like EVERY character was cast perfectly...and was convincing...the doped up aryan brotherhood guy that joined in the shootout in the projects may have been a tad over the top in intensity, but he was still legit creepy and it didn't take away from the show. But they nailed the rest. It's just a damn near perfect show.

Reggie Ledoux was a haunting character to me...and reminded me of some of the scary ex-con looking white trash guys you used to see in deep East TX or Louisiana back in the day. What a creepy, gritty character.



It is blasphemous to rank S4 over S1. Rotten Tomatoes has lost all credibility to me.

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Prosperdick said:

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Welp, that's it. I was starting to doubt Alan Sepinwall, who I used to trust a lot with his reviews of previous shows, but his ridiuclous pop pom cheering over this abortion of a show officially makes him persona non grata.

I will no longer read or trust any of his future reviews of any shows. Way to sell out Alan, pathetic.

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Yep, I used to love Sepinwall. He was the GOAT.

He started to lose me when he didn't care for Succession, though, I disagreed with him more and more since, and now this is the final straw for me.

I've actually seen quite a few favorable reactions to the finale on social media, and I legit don't understand what show/finale these people saw.

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Wow, I stopped reading him a while back but he seriously thinks Succession is somehow… worse? What a joke. True Detective Season 4 is one of the worst wastes of time I've watched from HBO.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Sex Panther said:

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Another thing about this season that was terrible and downright insulting, were the tie-ins to season 1.

I'm pretty sure it's been addressed and this is accurate - but it's so obvious this was originally written as a separate IP - HBO got it, liked it enough, and then told Lopez they wanted this to be the new season of True Detective. Then she (or them) went in and added in all the forced and stupid connections to season 1.

The strategy worked because people were talking and excited about seeing the Carcosa references and "OMG THAT'S RUST'S MOM"... so I can't blame them for taking that strategy. But in the end, it was obviously all shoe-horned in and felt so cheap, and probably a big reason why the finale is getting trashed so much.

I almost turned it off when Clark said "Time is a flat circle"... what an insult to one of the greatest performances of all time.

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Very well said. And while we are on the subject, just one of MANY things that made TD1 great, was the casting. I felt like EVERY character was cast perfectly...and was convincing...the doped up aryan brotherhood guy that joined in the shootout in the projects may have been a tad over the top in intensity, but he was still legit creepy and it didn't take away from the show. But they nailed the rest. It's just a damn near perfect show.

Reggie Ledoux was a haunting character to me...and reminded me of some of the scary ex-con looking white trash guys you used to see in deep East TX or Louisiana back in the day. What a creepy, gritty character.



It is blasphemous to rank S4 over S1. Rotten Tomatoes has lost all credibility to me.

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Its really not Rotten Tomatoes' fault, they're just an aggregator site. Its the critics who've either A) decided they'll bias their opinion in order to stay in the good graces of the media companies so they'll continue to get invited to premieres and receive early viewings, or B) bias their opinion based on social/political qualities of the show and/show creators.

There's simply too much evidence over the past couple of years to say this isn't true in cases like this.

For the last week I have been seeing nothing but positive buzz and reviews (except here) on the season and finale. And I've been thinking to myself "wtf is wrong with me? What did I miss?!? Why did it seem so so shi**y to me?"

It has been a beating seeing people talk this pile of shi* up as a good season.

Because of this thread I watched mare of east town. Now that is how a show should be done. Emotion in the last episode was unreal. Brilliant. Only good think about S4 was this show being mentioned.

JWinTX said:

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I finished this last night and I must say that it greatly disappointed me. The entire show was just a liberal commercial and it was like Victoria's Secret trying to tell us that having Kate Upton in lingerie is exactly the same as Megan Rapinoe or some trans model. No matter how much they wanted Season 4 to be attached to Season 1, its just never gonna be looked at in the same vein.

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Got to be a troll, right? Otherwise it is the worst post in the history of Texags. Mark Turgeon era trolling.