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I think they said she told him she wanted to move out (they were living together as a couple), so he got pissed and hit her. WHY she wanted to move out - beyond him obviously being an assh*le - wasn't discussed (that I can recall), but yeah, leaves the door open for some kind cult connection on his part. In fact, it wouldn't at all surprise me if he, Annie K, and Raymond Clark (the "killer") are all part of the underground spiral cult in some way. Then either Blair found out or has witnessed some sh*t, to the point of finally wanting to bail.

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One last thing about Blair's BF. From the Ep 1 scene, he clearly has a deep disrespect for women….even being incredibly insulting to a female cop. IF he is in the spiral cult, I could see him having severe problems with Clark maybe bringing a women into the cult and having direct, at least partial, responsibly for Annie K's death. Kicking someone after they are dead from 30 stab wounds shows pretty extreme hate. Maybe Clark got the trailer to hide relationship from BF. And maybe it had not been lived in for a while because there was no need after she was dead.

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Oooh, great call. Love this theory.

Same dude who owned the rig that Navarro poured the beer into. The fact that we saw him twice that episode tells me they're making sure we remember him.

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Ok, it was not my last thing. Based on his rig and clearly not being in the research crew, I would bet BF works for the mining company. That gives him two reasons to hate Annie K…she is a woman and she protests the mine. From the credits, the protesting is clearly important.

Am I the only person that thought Travis was her son and flipped out when she said they slept together?

I know it won't happen but if Matthew McConaughey some how makes a showing in season 4 people lose their minds

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What's up with the overly sensitive f buddy of Navarro? Tough guy running a bar in a mining town in Alaska who also has solo candlelit baths, pines for his stolen toothbrush and gets forced into unwanted sex. Unfortunate writing for that dude.

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As an unabashed bath taker, I laughed my ass off when I saw that scene. In fact, my wife walked in while I was watching Ep 1 on my tablet taking a super hot soak last week and did the whole "what are you watching over there?" bs with me.

Ok I gotta interject some doctor stuff here re: the frozen fella.

There is some very interesting cases of people drowning in very cold water and being essentially dead for a good while then making a full neurological recovery. This caused docs to investigate using hypothermia to protect brain tissue during traumatic births when the infant came out with no pulse for an extended period of time. It seems to be remarkably effective at protecting brain tissue and is also the basis behind cryrogenics.

So it is somewhat plausible that someone could survive a deep freeze. As was mentioned in Ep1 they were going to have to cut off at least a leg due to frostbite and he was placed into a medically induced coma to allow some healing and pain management. In this kind of extreme trauma it would not be surprising if he is in this coma for 7+ days so that is why he cannot contribute to the investigation at this time.

Hypothermia to Treat Severe Brain Injury | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (nih.gov)

The paradoxical undressing is a real thing too with hypothermia. I learned about that last year at Wilderness Medicine conference in Yellowstone.

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I agree. I am having a hard time believing that she is this hard-nosed cop.

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I'll say this. I know a woman, 5'03" 120 lbs, who is just about the meanest cop on her force. Peeps got mad respect for her. No-nonsense, investigative type. Would've fit in great in The Wire.

Can she beat up a full-grown dude? Heck no. Can she scare the dickens out of people through sheer force of personality? Absolutely.

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Am I the only person that thought Travis was her son and flipped out when she said they slept together?

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Ha I immediately hit pause and went to google. Thought to myself, "this must be the shocking scene in episode 2 I've heard about".

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One thing that kind of bugs me about this show (and most detective shows)...

Do detectives/cops really just show up at their friends/fbuddy's apartment at random times of day for a quickie (or for seemingly no reason) and leave?

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We're really supposed to believe a dude survived being encased in ice for 48-72 hours without there being something supernatural at play? Also, as previously pointed out, found it weird it wasn't mentioned again hardly. That would be one of the most nuts/scary/wtf things to ever witness and they didn't show any LEO's discuss or ask how the hell he survived.

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Maybe the cellular repair micro-organisms being researched are THAT good.

When Danvers was being banged by the Captain, I almost expected it to be on the top of a pinball machine…

I had been thinking about this more and based on some of the previous theories..

It actually starts to add up that the micro-organisms are causing people to act strange and/or seem to kill themselves. The bleeding from the ears, and scratch of the eyes.

Even the death of Annie may be explained by: she got infected, went insane / psycho and she was stabbed 60 times out of fear and kicked after she was dead to MAKE SURE she was dead.

Rewatched the second episode and there's something up with Hank and Peter. Hank bringing up blood is blood back at the rink to me implies he's telling Peter family is most important. Peter knows something Hank did, and it relates to the Annie K murder, they're both hiding something.

Sorry if this has already been discussed but I think I figured out the deal between Danvers and Navarro. I'm guessing Navarro messed up the case against the driver who killed Danvers' husband and son. Navarro messed up and the guilty got off. Since she messed that up for Danvers, Danvers in turn doesn't have any interest in helping Navarro solve the Annie K case. Since they know the cases are linked they'll work together on just this case. When she shows up at Navarro's house and asks where she moved the cans indicates that Danvers has been there before, they used to be friends and fell out hard. Danvers tells Peter to go watch the bodies so he doesn't **** up, I'm guessing she means Navarro did **** up.

Sorry if those have already been discussed, but that jumped out at me.

I think Hank is merely a useful idiot for someone trying to keep things under wraps. He is clearly an idiot based on the very transparent scam he is falling for. The abusive side of him might just be a smokescreen and ultimately a result of his own insecurity….or being raised the same. I don't think anyone in a dark, covert cult would let him close to the truth.

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They mention the case Navarro screwed up in the past, when she and Danvers were partners, but I can't remember the name of it. Based on next week's preview, though, it looks like we're getting a flashback to the screwup/incident. So I'm not sure it connects to the death of Danvers' husband/son, but I could be wrong. That said, you're definitely right about them once having been friends but then falling out hard.

As for Hank, yeah, something fishy is going on there for sure. He seems to be purposely slacking on the current case, and obviously didn't want Danvers to have the Annie K files either.

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I think the case reference was Wheeler but may be misremembering

Great podcast/episode...

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