aTmAg, is that you?cr06gis said:XXXVII said:cr06gis said:
Seems like every group they encounter are really the good guys in this story.
Really? The cannibal group are the good guys?
Yes.
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Chuck Cunningham said:
Soooo ****ing weird.
You have an extremely low tolerance if a convo about a show on a forum devoted to movies/shows is weird to you. God help you if you venture further into the internet. Lol.
Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
just now watched the mall episode. bookmarking my spot to come back and read after the latest episode.
Mall episode thoughts(most already said)
Mall episode thoughts(most already said)
- thought the mall was cool. thought her seeing simple things for the first time was cool. Would have preferred it be fit into about 15 minutes though.
- really hope we get to see the point where the other girl turns, Ellie has to kill her, and then Eliie realizes she's immune. If we dont see that(if that is even what happens) then thats a huge let down. If they had fit that scene into this episode and took out maybe the carousel scene, I think a lot more people would have been satisfied.
- that ending was heartbreaking yet again. Cannot imagine that feeling of getting bit and knowing its over and youre about to be a f'n zombie
I'll just say the weirdness is you think I'm taking your disagreement personally or I'm upset by it. That my friend, says more about you than it does about me.AggieArchitect04 said:Chuck Cunningham said:
Soooo ****ing weird.
You have an extremely low tolerance if a convo about a show on a forum devoted to movies/shows is weird to you. God help you if you venture further into the internet. Lol.
Yeah, I didn't hate this episode like the masses. Sometimes filmmakers just enjoy a setting and everything they can do with not. Not everything has to advance the plot or answer every question.gigemJTH12 said:
just now watched the mall episode. bookmarking my spot to come back and read after the latest episode.
Mall episode thoughts(most already said)
- thought the mall was cool. thought her seeing simple things for the first time was cool. Would have preferred it be fit into about 15 minutes though.
- really hope we get to see the point where the other girl turns, Ellie has to kill her, and then Eliie realizes she's immune. If we dont see that(if that is even what happens) then thats a huge let down. If they had fit that scene into this episode and took out maybe the carousel scene, I think a lot more people would have been satisfied.
- that ending was heartbreaking yet again. Cannot imagine that feeling of getting bit and knowing its over and youre about to be a f'n zombie
Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
Thought the same thing.
I actually found this part believable. The cult was completely submissive to David, which is expected cult behavior. A big clue was when they were eating and the whole commune was wolfing down their meals because they were so hungry, and David got a huge plate. Cult leaders use hunger to control people, and with this being 20 years into the apocalypse, I'm sure by that point David had full control over everyone to the point where they weren't allowed to question anything, or suffer severe consequences.Prosperdick said:The only thing I questioned from the episode was how did the women and children not know about the cannibalism? There is literally nothing to do in the dead of winter for those kids and they didn't snoop around and find the meat locker?AlaskanAg99 said:
I enjoyed this episode.
After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.
Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.
The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.
Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.
A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
I get not asking too many questions when you're starving but you would think one of the men would confide in his wife/partner at some point so that was strange.
I guess the iron fist rule was so harsh they dared not to go investigate anything...like gun shots and the warehouse literally ablaze.
One thing I wasn't sure of is did they kill their own people to eat them, or did they eat their dead (who died from other causes) so as to not waste food? Some more evidence for this was David saying that food was scarce but Ellie went out and hunted a deer within a few minutes or hours. You would think that in the apocalypse when humans are way less of a factor to the natural world, deer would reproduce like crazy.
I'm guessing they were going to eat Joel and Ellie if they'd caught them at the University.
Was publicly announced a long time ago and literally showed her in the preview for the next one. Get the **** over yourselvesChuck Cunningham said:Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
Also we dont know if it's a flashback or in the present so I can't say this is a spoiler.bluefire579 said:Was publicly announced a long time ago and literally showed her in the preview for the next one. Get the **** over yourselvesChuck Cunningham said:Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
ETA: wait, didn't Ellie say her parents died? so it's probably a flashback
I like it when people post spoilers then tell the person that is annoyed by it to "Get the **** over yourselves"bluefire579 said:Was publicly announced a long time ago and literally showed her in the preview for the next one. Get the **** over yourselvesChuck Cunningham said:Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
Some of us only watch the show and don't read the trades or articles or play the game. If it's not in the show, it's a spoiler.
probably, which made their deaths all the more satisfyingschmendeler said:
I'm guessing they were going to eat Joel and Ellie if they'd caught them at the University.
I would disagree and I'm just a show watcher. It was news to me but I don't consider it a spoiler.
We went over this with many shows before especially book reader vs non book reader on GOT. A game player vs non game player is similar. The fact that she is the voice of Ellie in the game is irrelevant to a non game player.
As far as her being cast as the mom, If it is in something officially released for the show - including previews - it is not a spoiler.
If the show people don't try to hide it then it is not a spoiler. And it was not just in next weeks preview it was in a preview before the series aired.
The fact that you (and I) don't pay attention to trailers is irrelevant. It's public info. Not a spoiler.
imho
We went over this with many shows before especially book reader vs non book reader on GOT. A game player vs non game player is similar. The fact that she is the voice of Ellie in the game is irrelevant to a non game player.
As far as her being cast as the mom, If it is in something officially released for the show - including previews - it is not a spoiler.
If the show people don't try to hide it then it is not a spoiler. And it was not just in next weeks preview it was in a preview before the series aired.
The fact that you (and I) don't pay attention to trailers is irrelevant. It's public info. Not a spoiler.
imho
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
to me, it was pretty minor. but its the attitude that basically says, "i don't give a **** about anyone's point of view." but then, that pretty much mirrors our country these days, so i guess i should just "get the **** over myself."Zombie Jon Snow said:
I would disagree and I'm just a show watcher. It was news to me but I don't consider it a spoiler.
We went over this with many shows before especially book reader vs non book reader on GOT. A game player vs non game player is similar. The fact that she is the voice of Ellie in the game is irrelevant to a non game player.
As far as her being cast as the mom, If it is in something officially released for the show - including previews - it is not a spoiler.
If the show people don't try to hide it then it is not a spoiler. And it was not just in next weeks preview it was in a preview before the series aired.
The fact that you (and I) don't pay attention to trailers is irrelevant. It's public info. Not a spoiler.
imho
Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
One thing I thought about at the end is Ellie just wanders outside in the freezing cold with no coat or hat. Joel just giver her his coat and it's freezing cold with the wind blowing.
Yes Ellie was in shock after hacking the leader to death, but their going to go into hypothermia in about 5-minutes.
I assume they'll get inside somewhere and maybe steal some supplies and coats before they move on.
Yes Ellie was in shock after hacking the leader to death, but their going to go into hypothermia in about 5-minutes.
I assume they'll get inside somewhere and maybe steal some supplies and coats before they move on.
I personally love when people who are super sensitive about the tiniest spoilers are also avid posters on a thread that constantly upsets them with obscure spoilers.
Why read the thread so religiously if you are so easily triggered by minor *****
Why read the thread so religiously if you are so easily triggered by minor *****
personally, i don't watch any of the previews, so I'd rather not see/read the stuff here either. I like to go in to the watch knowing as little as possible.Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
that said, i'm generally not going to complain about something that is in a preview. However, others need to understand that there are those of us who don't watch the previews, so its possible someone might have zero idea something is in a preview and think its a spoiler.
here's the thing about the casting announcements for certain characters--they are only spoilers if you truly want to know NOTHING about the show going into it. TLOU has done a lot of this because there are a lot of characters that are only in one or two episodes. Before ep 3 I saw Murray Bartlett was cast as Frank. But I had no idea who Frank was and assumed he'd become a major character in the show. But nope, he's just in one episode and all of his screentime was a flashback. Can't say that was a spoiler.Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
Somebody start the non-gamer non-preview non-trailer non-BTS thread
Chuck Cunningham said:I like it when people post spoilers then tell the person that is annoyed by it to "Get the **** over yourselves"bluefire579 said:Was publicly announced a long time ago and literally showed her in the preview for the next one. Get the **** over yourselvesChuck Cunningham said:Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
Some of us only watch the show and don't read the trades or articles or play the game. If it's not in the show, it's a spoiler.
Yea get over yourself. We have never operated this way on any other show
Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
Exactly - cuz the preview tends to run right after the credits for the next week - it is broadcast out in the same time period as the "show" for those watching "live" on HBO and part of the streamable episode in your app if you watch there.
AggieOO said:personally, i don't watch any of the previews, so I'd rather not see/read the stuff here either. I like to go in to the watch knowing as little as possible.Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
that said, i'm generally not going to complain about something that is in a preview. However, others need to understand that there are those of us who don't watch the previews, so its possible someone might have zero idea something is in a preview and think its a spoiler.
We can't protect everyone from everything.
By your definition if someone misses something or misses an episode and have zero idea they could think something is a spoiler.
Previews are not spoilers. Period.
It's your personal preference as you said.
Yep, but I can't expect people not spoil. I just didn't know it was in the trailer.Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
Like I said, I didn't know it ws in the trailer.Saxsoon said:Chuck Cunningham said:I like it when people post spoilers then tell the person that is annoyed by it to "Get the **** over yourselves"bluefire579 said:Was publicly announced a long time ago and literally showed her in the preview for the next one. Get the **** over yourselvesChuck Cunningham said:Great...so we're going to see Ellie's mother.bluefire579 said:It's already been confirmed that she plays Ellie's motherAverage Joe said:Quad Dog said:Does this mean we will see Ashley Johnson?Average Joe said:
I know this is the non game thread, and someone might have mentioned this already, but the guy that fetched the medicine is Troy Baker. He's the voice actor for Joel in the game.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Damn, just realized how well they did on the voice actor/actress selection for the game. Those two are top notch.
Was also pointed out earlier that Tommy's voice actor was the bearded guy in Kansas City, and Marlene's voice actress is playing the same role, so they've done a great job of bringing in the core cast.
Thanks.
Some of us only watch the show and don't read the trades or articles or play the game. If it's not in the show, it's a spoiler.
Yea get over yourself. We have never operated this way on any other show
exactly. but my point is, someone shoudn't say "get the **** over yourself," since its very possible that someone else has ZERO clue that its not a spoiler. I'm not asking anyone to "protect" me from anything. But a simple, "hey, it was in a preview" is very different than the response in question.Zombie Jon Snow said:AggieOO said:personally, i don't watch any of the previews, so I'd rather not see/read the stuff here either. I like to go in to the watch knowing as little as possible.Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
that said, i'm generally not going to complain about something that is in a preview. However, others need to understand that there are those of us who don't watch the previews, so its possible someone might have zero idea something is in a preview and think its a spoiler.
We can't protect everyone from everything.
By your definition if someone misses something or misses an episode and have zero idea they could think something is a spoiler.
Previews are not spoilers. Period.
It's your personal preference as you said.
With that, I'm done with this sidetrack and will go back to things actually directly related to the show.
If people are that sensitive about it, they need to enact some self discipline and get off the thread. If they "just can't help themselves" and have to go talk about it with people, it's their own fault if they discover something they would rather not have known.AggieOO said:personally, i don't watch any of the previews, so I'd rather not see/read the stuff here either. I like to go in to the watch knowing as little as possible.Stive said:Does the season preview and individual episode trailers/previews count as show in your mind? Or can it only be the stuff between the opening credits and the ending credits?Chuck Cunningham said:
If it's not in the show it's a spoiler.
That being said, I had no idea it was in the trailer. Nor announced.
So I'll give him a pass even if he was an ass to me.
that said, i'm generally not going to complain about something that is in a preview. However, others need to understand that there are those of us who don't watch the previews, so its possible someone might have zero idea something is in a preview and think its a spoiler.
If I walk up to some friends and they're talking about an episode of something I haven't seen and I don't want to hear about, I need to walk away and let them have their discussion. It's pretty a-hole'ish of me to sit there in their presence demanding/whining/begging/screaming for them to stop talking about something they want to talk about just because I walked up and don't want to leave. That's an incredibly high level of selfishness.
AggieOO said:
exactly. but my point is, someone shoudn't say "get the **** over yourself," since its very possible that someone else has ZERO clue that its not a spoiler. I'm not asking anyone to "protect" me from anything. But a simple, "hey, it was in a preview" is very different than the response in question.
With that, I'm done with this sidetrack and will go back to things actually directly related to the show.
Agree 100% - I never commented on the tone of the response. That was a little harsh for sure.
I completely understand those who literally don't want ANY information about an upcoming episode, even from the weekly after-episode preview. However, if you are that militant about no spoilers, then it's probably wise just to stay away from a message board thread. From what I recollect, every thread on every movie or show has accepted that trailers were fair game to discuss.
This is why I didn't even read pre-release discussions of The Batman and other movies before watching them. I didn't even want to hear people discussing what the trailer could be showing us.
On the other hand, others should probably understand that the showrunners are not just making this show for new viewers but for fans of the games. As a showrunner, you may release and announcement of who is playing up coming characters because fans may be interested to know. I guarantee you that if there was no source material, and therefore no fans of that source material, that kind of information would not be announced.
I just don't see why it's so hard to spoiler tag something about a future episode for those who would like to discuss the most recent episodes but don't want to know anything about a coming episode.
This is why I didn't even read pre-release discussions of The Batman and other movies before watching them. I didn't even want to hear people discussing what the trailer could be showing us.
On the other hand, others should probably understand that the showrunners are not just making this show for new viewers but for fans of the games. As a showrunner, you may release and announcement of who is playing up coming characters because fans may be interested to know. I guarantee you that if there was no source material, and therefore no fans of that source material, that kind of information would not be announced.
I just don't see why it's so hard to spoiler tag something about a future episode for those who would like to discuss the most recent episodes but don't want to know anything about a coming episode.
That sounds like 3 threads to me - rather than impose rules on some on this thread
1. game players spoilery thread
2. non game players public info thread
3. non game players only discussion of literal in show content
As others have said - every single show I have ever followed on discussions here (going back to LOST by the way, including GOT, BB, BCS, Mare of Eastown, The Deuce, Silicon Valley, Mad Men, Halt and Catch Fire, etc.) considered previews fair game and public knowledge whether there was other source material or not.
We aren't changing that rule now.
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