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AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
I've probably given out 20 copies of the first book of that series (Self-titled) as gifts. Most everyone buys the other 2 soon after.
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Seabreeze said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
I've probably given out 20 copies of the first book of that series (Self-titled) as gifts. Most everyone buys the other 2 soon after.
I just put it on my watchlist at the libraries.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
The only thing I questioned from the episode was how did the women and children not know about the cannibalism? There is literally nothing to do in the dead of winter for those kids and they didn't snoop around and find the meat locker?

I get not asking too many questions when you're starving but you would think one of the men would confide in his wife/partner at some point so that was strange.

I guess the iron fist rule was so harsh they dared not to go investigate anything...like gun shots and the warehouse literally ablaze.
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This one really made me have to stretch hard for my suspension of disbelief.
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I always thought people were white meat.

Are we dark meat?

Yes, we are...

https://gizmodo.com/what-kind-of-meat-is-human-meat-1511534805

And this study references A&Ms meat science dept, so it has to be right.

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For a long time I was always surprised by the amount of denial rational people are capable of. I finally learned to stop being surprised.

Also, they had been trained for a long time to not speak up or question anything. Same reason none of them are outside investigating the fire or Joel sneaking around.
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Quad Dog said:

For a long time I was always surprised by the amount of denial rational people are capable of. I finally learned to stop being surprised.

Also, they had been trained for a long time to not speak up or question anything. Same reason none of them are outside investigating the fire or Joel sneaking around.
Cult leader had them going along with everything.

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i also thought there was a possibility of the slaughterhouse being outside of "town" and no one is allowed to leave "city limits" without permission.

Also, I wondered if Ellie could infect someone. Just b/c she's immune doesn't mean she doesn't have the virus in her system. I'm sure that's not the case, but would be interesting.
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I've figured out my biggest (albeit trivial) suspension-of-disbelief gripe.

Everyone's gear is completely pristine. I think except for Tess early on, how TF does everyone have coats, beanies, jeans, boots, even firearms that look like they were pulled off of a Cabela's shelf just last night? No wear, no tear, no scuffs or scrapes. Nothing.

I grilled chicken thighs last night and accidentally got coal marks on my t-shirt. Everyone in TLOU looks like they just got done with a Patagonia F/W 2023 shoot.
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Seabreeze said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
I've probably given out 20 copies of the first book of that series (Self-titled) as gifts. Most everyone buys the other 2 soon after.


I didn't realize there were 3 in the series. The first book is great, although I'm only about halfway through. I think I packed it up during a move and just forgot to unpack and keep reading (I can be bad about that). Need to start finishing it.

Would be an incredible and terrifying movie or show if you did it right. Mankind, when scared and desperate, is much more terrifying than any beast or zombie imo.
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

I've figured out my biggest (albeit trivial) suspension-of-disbelief gripe.

Everyone's gear is completely pristine. I think except for Tess early on, how TF does everyone have coats, beanies, jeans, boots, even firearms that look like they were pulled off of a Cabela's shelf just last night? No wear, no tear, no scuffs or scrapes. Nothing.

I grilled chicken thighs last night and accidentally got coal marks on my t-shirt. Everyone in TLOU looks like they just got done with a Patagonia F/W 2023 shoot.
I had that thought as well, but if a ton of people died, then there is a huge surplass at CAbellas.

That's how I justified that one.

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Prosperdick said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
The only thing I questioned from the episode was how did the women and children not know about the cannibalism? There is literally nothing to do in the dead of winter for those kids and they didn't snoop around and find the meat locker?

I get not asking too many questions when you're starving but you would think one of the men would confide in his wife/partner at some point so that was strange.

I guess the iron fist rule was so harsh they dared not to go investigate anything...like gun shots and the warehouse literally ablaze.


It's cold and windy out. Why exert the effort and burn calories you don't have unless necessary?

Gunshots were inside and empty building with cinder block walls, which to me indicates a basement since the windows were higher up. By the time the sound gets to neighboring buildings it may have not been noticeable, along with the wind blowing hard.

Inside the building was on fire, strong winds and with everyone Bing inside, it may go unnoticed for awhile. There were only 20-30 people during the dining scene. Joel killed 3 and Ellie killed 2 of the expedition team...so that doesn't leave many men roaming about.

I put all this in the plausible category.
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Quote:

Also, I wondered if Ellie could infect someone. Just b/c she's immune doesn't mean she doesn't have the virus in her system. I'm sure that's not the case, but would be interesting.
This! I thought the same thing in that moment.
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Also, every house has a wood burning fireplace going 24/7. Probably nothing weird about smoke coming from a building.
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So is it possible to bring back the "Ellie" method of execution for child rapists? I'd be ok with that.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Brittmoore Car Club said:

Seabreeze said:

AlaskanAg99 said:

I enjoyed this episode.

After 20 years of infection, post apocalyptic living and constant fear of death, most people are not going to be well educated rational thinkers. When someone says "I have the way" and mostly delivers why wouldn't people go along? Then that leader finds men that are willing to get the job done in order to protect their own. Which means killing others in order to survive. America and its government are gone, groups have become tribal.

Even Joel and his brother fit this mold. They have killed and taken in order to survive. It's stated repeatedly.

The party of 4 that was out scavenging, away from the eyes of their wives and children, will do whatever it takes to get through another day. Another week. And they already know this winter is harder, colder and longer as their food supplies dwindle. To that end, it's resulted in cannibalism, they had 3 other bodies already strung up ready to be butchered.

Starving people being fed probably aren't going to ask too many questions.

A solid series to read is called "1 Second After".
I've probably given out 20 copies of the first book of that series (Self-titled) as gifts. Most everyone buys the other 2 soon after.


I didn't realize there were 3 in the series. The first book is great, although I'm only about halfway through. I think I packed it up during a move and just forgot to unpack and keep reading (I can be bad about that). Need to start finishing it.

Would be an incredible and terrifying movie or show if you did it right. Mankind, when scared and desperate, is much more terrifying than any beast or zombie imo.
There is also One Year after, and the Final day. I saw he has another book coming to the series sometime this year i belive called 5 years after.

Anyways, back to the show
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

I've figured out my biggest (albeit trivial) suspension-of-disbelief gripe.

Everyone's gear is completely pristine. I think except for Tess early on, how TF does everyone have coats, beanies, jeans, boots, even firearms that look like they were pulled off of a Cabela's shelf just last night? No wear, no tear, no scuffs or scrapes. Nothing.

I grilled chicken thighs last night and accidentally got coal marks on my t-shirt. Everyone in TLOU looks like they just got done with a Patagonia F/W 2023 shoot.
Yep, in reality, people would look much more like this.



But I agree it's a petty thing compared to the plot holes etc in many other shows. I might honestly get sick of everyone looking like dirty diseased hobos after a while lol.
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Guess not being a fan of the game didn't help. I made it about two episodes and it felt like little more than yet another post apocalyptic zombie show with little behind it. If someone can tell me it gets a real set of plot lines other than "avoid the flesh eater" maybe I will give it another go.
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oragator said:

Guess not being a fan of the game didn't help. I made it about two episodes and it felt like little more than yet another post apocalyptic zombie show with little behind it. If someone can tell me it gets a real set of plot lines other than "avoid the flesh eater" maybe I will give it another go.
To me, the shroombies are only a very small part of it, overall. Definitely not most peoples' first concern throughout most of the show. They honestly hardly make an appearance overall and were far more prevalent in eps 1 and 2 when the outbreak happened and when the main characters were trying to get out of the cities.
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oragator said:

Guess not being a fan of the game didn't help. I made it about two episodes and it felt like little more than yet another post apocalyptic zombie show with little behind it. If someone can tell me it gets a real set of plot lines other than "avoid the flesh eater" maybe I will give it another go.
That's the smallest amount of plot point in this show.

This is a platonic love story of over coming loss in a post apolyptic world environment.

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The only thing I can say is it's not a zombie show. The show happens to contain zombie-like monsters (done up a little more creatively than traditional zombies IMO), but that's not what it's about.
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One Second After has had more lasting impact on my brain that any other "scary" book ever has. I'll find myself on business trips 2-3 hours from my home and asking: what if it happened right now? Would I be able to get back? How long would it take? Would my family make it until I get back? My goal would be to get to my place that's 90 miles from me but how do I get a family of 6 from here to there? How fast would I realize what's happening and how fast could I get on the move?

As this episode illustrates: humans are your greatest risk (especially in the short term) in situations like these. For the most part, everyone would have different priorities and levels of desperation. That makes for a high level of danger for everyone involved.
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So one more episode this season right? And are we already guaranteed a season two?
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Stive said:

So one more episode this season right? And are we already guaranteed a season two?
one more episode this season and an Season 2 (2nd game) has been greenlit by HBO.
RIP ATMHockey
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Chuck Cunningham said:

Babies are a good source of meat too.

-The Road




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Stive said:

One Second After has had more lasting impact on my brain that any other "scary" book ever has. I'll find myself on business trips 2-3 hours from my home and asking: what if it happened right now? Would I be able to get back? How long would it take? Would my family make it until I get back? My goal would be to get to my place that's 90 miles from me but how do I get a family of 6 from here to there? How fast would I realize what's happening and how fast could I get on the move?

As this episode illustrates: humans are your greatest risk (especially in the short term) in situations like these. For the most part, everyone would have different priorities and levels of desperation. That makes for a high level of danger for everyone involved.
No doubt. Same for me...it taught me to have a certain plan and keep it in the back of my mind...although if it knocked out all electronics, and thus all modern automobiles, my fam would pretty much be effed without some type of lucky head start out of the city and towards east TX. I would love for a series or movie to be made, but they would have to do it right. I don't trust them to not butcher it by Hollywood-izing the F out of it. If they stayed true to the book, it would be amazing, and scarier than any zombie show ever made. No story has been done like it before, at least to my knowledge.
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I think it could be an awesome one season HBO deal, or at most MAYBE two seasons. The hardest part would be illustrating the weight loss. I've never read the other books in the series primarily because I don't think they could conjure up the same feelings that the first book generated (it stands just fine on its own), so I'm not sure I'd want it to go much further but I think it would make an awesome limited series.

Surely someone already owns the movie/television rights to it, right?
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I hope so. I'll never forget how pumped I was to see a trailer for the movie based on my favorite fictional book ever (No Country), having no clue a movie was even in the works. I would have a similar giddiness with this one.

Sorry everyone, back to Last of Us...
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Stive said:

I think it could be an awesome one season HBO deal, or at most MAYBE two seasons. The hardest part would be illustrating the weight loss. I've never read the other books in the series primarily because I don't think they could conjure up the same feelings that the first book generated (it stands just fine on its own), so I'm not sure I'd want it to go much further but I think it would make an awesome limited series.

Surely someone already owns the movie/television rights to it, right?
From Wiki

Adaptation:
The option for the film rights to One Second After was initially sold to Warner Bros., but has subsequently expired. As of August 2011, a new option was being negotiated with another unknown studio.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After#cite_note-6][6][/url]
In November 2021 the TV rights for the book series were licensed MPI Original Films. J. Michael Straczynski is involved with the production and will be writing the pilot.
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i'm also disappointed in you texags...i opened this thread ready to read a hundred comments about how Ellie was carrying/holding the rifle under her arm.
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Stive said:

One Second After has had more lasting impact on my brain that any other "scary" book ever has. I'll find myself on business trips 2-3 hours from my home and asking: what if it happened right now? Would I be able to get back? How long would it take? Would my family make it until I get back? My goal would be to get to my place that's 90 miles from me but how do I get a family of 6 from here to there? How fast would I realize what's happening and how fast could I get on the move?

As this episode illustrates: humans are your greatest risk (especially in the short term) in situations like these. For the most part, everyone would have different priorities and levels of desperation. That makes for a high level of danger for everyone involved.
In every apocalyptic/zombie story or game since the beginning of time, the humans are very quickly the biggest problem. The zombies or elements become background to human vs human violence.
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AggieOO said:

i'm also disappointed in you texags...i opened this thread ready to read a hundred comments about how Ellie was carrying/holding the rifle under her arm.
well, it was comment worthy, but when she shot the deer she at least got behind the stock.
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Another fan of One Second After here (plan to read the others soon). I would also love to see a series/mini-series like that done since the primary issues at that point are lack of resources to support the current population size.

A related one is the Change/Emberverse series by SM Stirling. Physical laws related to electricity, firearms (gunpowder doesn't burn quickly), etc. all just change (mostly stop working) in an instant. The original trilogy starting with Dies the Fire is the best part. Read the next part of the series (some great, some bad). Never read the third part of the series.
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cbr said:

AggieOO said:

i'm also disappointed in you texags...i opened this thread ready to read a hundred comments about how Ellie was carrying/holding the rifle under her arm.
well, it was comment worthy, but when she shot the deer she at least got behind the stock.
this is texags. getting the shot correct doesn't absolve her.
 
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