*** THE LAST OF US *** (Non-Gamer Thread)

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Saw an article where the creator confirmed the cause of the outbreak was contaminated grain/bread. And Joel/Sarah both narrowly avoided getting sick.

- No pancakes for breakfast
- Turned down the biscuits
- Sarah didn't eat a cookie
- Forgot to pick up a birthday cake

Mind blown.

So the moral of the story is going gluten free has its benefits.

But seriously, is that how everyone originally got infected in 2003? I know there were spores found at the flour plant in Indonesia, but that was the problem everywhere?
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Yes, that's the implication. The world's largest flour mill is in Jakarta.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Saw an article where the creator confirmed the cause of the outbreak was contaminated grain/bread. And Joel/Sarah both narrowly avoided getting sick.

- No pancakes for breakfast
- Turned down the biscuits
- Sarah didn't eat a cookie
- Forgot to pick up a birthday cake

Mind blown.


Joel did say he was on the Atkins diet.
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Holy hell, leave for a few hours and look what happens.
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Yeah it's a minor annoyance, more than anything.
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Thread is an absolute car wreck. Can't look away but terrible.

Anyone else curious about how far fetched this would be for fungus to actually do this in humans? I would Google it but… spoilers?

I saw the bug fungus thing earlier… gross.

Edit: so I found a link with the science behind it but very little show information for those interested:
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-last-of-us-the-science-behind-the-real-zombie-fungus-and-is-it-an-actual-threat-12790306
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amg405 said:

Thread is an absolute car wreck. Can't look away but terrible.

Anyone else curious about how far fetched this would be for fungus to actually do this in humans? I would Google it but… spoilers?

I saw the bug fungus thing earlier… gross.

Really, really far fetched according to current science.

Would take billions of years of fungi attempting evolution to even start invading and controlling mammals, and that's assuming they adjust to internal human temperatures.

To be fair, humans do get fungi infections on you know where cooler areas of our bodies, but that's about it.
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Am I the only one who pictures Chuck as Nick Offerman in this thread? Every post of his sounds like something he'd say and in his tone
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Am I the only one who pictures Chuck as Nick Offerman
Yes. You are the Last of Us who thinks that.
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amg405 said:

Thread is an absolute car wreck. Can't look away but terrible.

Anyone else curious about how far fetched this would be for fungus to actually do this in humans? I would Google it but… spoilers?

I saw the bug fungus thing earlier… gross.

Edit: so I found a link with the science behind it but very little show information for those interested:
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/the-last-of-us-the-science-behind-the-real-zombie-fungus-and-is-it-an-actual-threat-12790306


How do you know they don't spend more time on this in a later episode?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Saw an article where the creator confirmed the cause of the outbreak was contaminated grain/bread. And Joel/Sarah both narrowly avoided getting sick.

- No pancakes for breakfast
- Turned down the biscuits
- Sarah didn't eat a cookie
- Forgot to pick up a birthday cake

Mind blown.


Hmm, thinking about this more, I'm not sure if I like it from an internal logic sense. First, it would likely have just been a single mill contaminated, so the probability that a single piece of baked good would contain flour from the mill in Jakarta would be astronomically low, and Sarah and Joel were likely in no danger.

However, if we are to take his comments at face value, and Joel and Sarah were both nearly exposed to contaminated baked goods then nearly every batch of flour in the world is contaminated with spores. This would then mean that every single person in the world would have died within days.

There is not a conceivable way that there would be any survivors, at least in the United States if his comment is cannon for the world. The apocalypse happened too quickly for the contamination to have ever been widely known as the reason for the outbreak, so basically nearly everyone in the world would be in the dark about the dangers of eating grain. And given the ready supply of baked goods in the United States, those foods would have quickly been ransacked from stores and homes in the first few days after the start of the apocalypse and lead to mass zombification among the initial survivors. The only people who would be spared are keto-warriors (which probably wouldn't exist post-apocalypse).

There is also the fact that Ellie is seen eating bread with her sandwich, which implies a comfort with eating baked goods which I can't imagine anyone would be comfortable doing if the survivors knew the entire apocalypse was set off by eating or being exposed to contaminated flour, which would imply that 1. no one ever knew about the flour contamination, and 2. Every single one of the survivors would have had to have, coincidentally, never touched a baked good in the first few years after the apocalypse.

So basically it makes much more sense from in-universe logic that Joel and Sarah were likely never in danger, and the likelihood of eating contaminated grain was more of a one in a million occurrence, but given Indonesia is a major exporter of flour, that was enough to at least seed small pockets of zombies world wide, which then spread like wild fire. So I'm going to stick with that as my head cannon.
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The opening scenes with the outbreak on Joel's birthday in Austin happens only 2 days after what we saw in the intro in Jakarta so this thing clearly got out of hand quickly.
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The apocalypse happened too quickly for the contamination to have ever been widely known as the reason for the outbreak, so basically nearly everyone in the world would be in the dark about the dangers of eating grain.
Isn't that quite a leap in logic...the mycology professor already figured out it was the flour/grain "a perfect substrate." This was 2 days before when the premier episode takes place and could be enough time for word to spread about avoiding bread at all costs. Yes, during the day Sarah hears about "reports in Jakarta" but there might have been specific warnings issued later that we didn't get to hear.

It also seems like everyone (besides Ellie) is eating jerky or something like that (I could be wrong, just going off memory) so it seems like everyone is avoiding bread (talk about a nightmare, no more bread, that SUCKS).

FYI - I have never played or watched the game (only Auburn last night, and it was magnificent).
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Not really a leap in logic, there is no longer a means of mass communication. Cell towers would be down, TV broadcasts would cease. At best if you had access to a radio, you could potentially get information that way, although how many of you have a portable radio?

Also, someone had to make the bread using flour. Someone would have also had to have made the flour, and I doubt they are making mills and cooking bread just for the lone immune individual.
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Worst thread ever. 12 pages of arguing about gamers.

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aTmAg said:

Quad Dog said:

Haven't watched this yet. Is this show something more than another bleak, depressing, end of the world, zombie show?

I'm not sure I need another one of those in my life.
So far (only 2 episodes in) there is more plot than that. There is a higher purpose mission they are trying to accomplish in said world.
I did watch the first two. I like the survival aspects, the backstories, the characters. I'll keep watching. I'll always be a day or two behind because there is no way I can watch this with my wife around, she hates things with this much suspense.

I play a decent amount of video games, but never played this one. I've played similar.
One episode in, and this already feels like the greatest adaptation of a video game to screen. The way each episode feels like like a level. The action scenes use POV really well and make you feel like you are following game missions: navigate through the museum without being heard, etc.
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barbacoa taco said:

Watched ep 2 last night. Not a big gamer but I've played TLOU a few times (nowhere near completing the game) at my brother's. Definitely found the game gripping with the storyline.

Begone
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What did I just read? Wow.
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I don't know. You tell us.
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

Not really a leap in logic, there is no longer a means of mass communication. Cell towers would be down, TV broadcasts would cease. At best if you had access to a radio, you could potentially get information that way, although how many of you have a portable radio?

Also, someone had to make the bread using flour. Someone would have also had to have made the flour, and I doubt they are making mills and cooking bread just for the lone immune individual.
I'm not talking about after everything went FUBAR, I'm talking about later in that first day when Sarah hears the news report about issues in Jakarta. There's a chance a communication was sent out from Jakarta before they started bombing or whatever they did to the rest of the world that it's related to grain/flour.

I agree with your premise that if the bulk of the world did not know about bread products being the main vehicle of transmission then, as the 60's scientist so eloquently put it, "we lose." If they don't explain that it's a plot hole for sure but I wonder if we get another flashback showing how a communication was put out (either through Jakarta or another part of the world that "figured it out").
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I mean it was 2003. We (in the US) were told of the first case of COVID like what, in early January of 2020? We didn't shut things down until March 2020.

There was no way one scientist's/professor's hypothesis could have been verified by a community of experts to then communicate out the source of infection to the rest of the world in what was, according to this fictional universe, a 48-hour turnaround time for it to reach and destroy another continent.

My Amazon Prime shipments come in slower.
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This is like when people complain about physics in Star Wars or that there's really no sound in space. It's a show about ZOMBIES, one that is actually giving us something different (the whole fungus thing) from the rest. Who cares about the logistics of flour shipping/consumption?
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It's a better topic than spoilers.
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Not an invitation for gamers to add commentary (and there are no spoilers in the article), this is only to say that the series will almost assuredly last at least three seasons...

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TCTTS said:

Not an invitation for gamers to add commentary (and there are no spoilers in the article), this is only to say that the series will almost assuredly last at least three seasons...
Even if the second game took 2 seasons doesn't mean they couldn't make stuff up after that.

I mean it worked for GoT...


...oh wait.
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But even if "The Last Of Us" continues for another couple of seasons, don't expect it to stay on HBO forever. Mazin and co-creator/writer Neil Druckmann have an endpoint in mind, and once they hit that, they'll end the series. "That said, however long it takes to tell that story, that's exactly as long as we will take and no more," Mazin continued. "This is not something that goes on forever. It has an end and we write toward an end."
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TCTTS said:

This is like when people complain about physics in Star Wars or that there's really no sound in space. It's a show about ZOMBIES, one that is actually giving us something different (the whole fungus thing) from the rest. Who cares about the logistics of flour shipping/consumption?

Oh I'm sorry, by all means, let's go back to b*tching about gamers rather than discussing the show.

This thread is the worst.
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TCTTS said:

This is like when people complain about physics in Star Wars or that there's really no sound in space. It's a show about ZOMBIES, one that is actually giving us something different (the whole fungus thing) from the rest. Who cares about the logistics of flour shipping/consumption?
Yeah that **** is boring, can we get back to all the histrionics of the previous half dozen pages about information provided in the show or show's trailer being considered a spoiler? That stuff was entertaining.
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You're more than welcome to start your own, or take your chances in the other thread.

I just find it funny when people complain about stuff like this, while completely ignoring how unbelievable the main conceit itself usually is.
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Since the game author is working with them, I would be okay with them going past game #2. Especially if game #3 is in work already.
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Discussing how the fungus might or might not spread is germane to the thread.
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Can you not gatekeep for what is acceptable conversation, at least? I can't stand when people say "who cares, it's (zombies, aliens, magic, etc.)" to shut down any conversation regarding inconsistencies, absurdity, or logical flaws within the universe, especially on message boards dedicated to discussing shows.

My post was an attempt to spark up conversation that moves past the absurdity that was the last 6 pages. I will say the other thread is significantly more enjoyable due to the lack of cattiness. Y'all are like teenage girls in here.
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BTW, did anybody think it was extra hard to kill the clickers in Ep2 than it would take for a normal person? The lady that they showed in 2006 had a single tap to the head. But they had to shoot the clickers in museum a bunch of times.
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As much as TCTTS annoys me, the author of a thread should have extra say in what the scope of the thread should be.

.. but I guess saying so up front in the OP is better than trying to police a thread 12 pages in.
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

Can you not gatekeep for what is acceptable conversation, at least? I can't stand when people say "who cares, it's (zombies, aliens, magic, etc.)" to shut down any conversation regarding inconsistencies, absurdity, or logical flaws within the universe, especially on message boards dedicated to discussing shows.

My post was an attempt to spark up conversation that moves past the absurdity that was the last 6 pages. I will say the other thread is significantly more enjoyable due to the lack of cattiness. Y'all are like teenage girls in here.

I'm not gatekeeping, and in no way am I saying you can't talk about it. I was merely expressing my annoyance, in a joking manner, which I assumed was allowed, but I guess not. If anyone's shutting anything down, it's you. You're free to talk about whatever you want, and I'm just as free to comment on it. As long as neither of us are talking spoilers, we're all good.

 
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