texasaggie04 said:

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I really liked the THANOS theory of infinity stones all along... but I guess it doesn't work now. Unless we believe that the Soul Stone was located in Thanos's "heart" the whole time.

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H is for HYDRA

Did anyone catch that when Vision is killed he turns an ashen grey color similar to the arc from the 90s when he was disassembled and reassembled? Maybe that is the plan for bringing him back without the infinity stone?

Oh ***** It just hit me.

Avengers Disassembled

Sex Panther said:

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Quote:

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It's the start of the finale of a 10-year action adventure story, not The Shape of Water.

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That's true... Infinity War was actually good.

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From way downtown!

There are rumors that the next Avengers movie will follow the Avengers Forever comic arc. Set photos might back that up.

Here is every potential title being batted around that I could find based on 10 minutes of research. Some of these are truly terrible, mind you, while Endgame seems to be the current frontrunner/most popular. That said, I have a feeling that none of these are actually it...

Avengers: Annihilation
Avengers: Endgame
Avengers: Disassembled
Avengers: Infinity Crusade
Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet (denied by both Kevin Feige and James Gunn)
Avengers: Secret Invasion
Avengers: Secret Wars
Avengers: The Thanos Imperative
Avengers Forever
Avengers No More
New Avengers
The Last Avenger

Sorry if this has already been discussed but I haven't seen discussion elsewhere on in the interwebs ...

So, Stark asks Doctor Strange if there are any of the 14 million+ futures where we win, and he says "one". Then the scene cuts away. Then later, Strange gives up the time stone to Thanos to save Stark's life. (I assume Stark objected to this, but I don't recall his reaction exactly.) Strange says "it's the only way" or something. So ... what did Doctor Strange foresee, and did he tell Stark? If not, why the *** not? I assume after revealing there's only one way to beat Thanos, he would then have proceeded to share that info ... right?

Or maybe he did share it, and they were all in on the plan, and just had to make it LOOK like a good fight ... thoughts?

If I had to pick from this list, though, I'd go with either Avengers: Endgame or Avengers Forever.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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Man, I'm clearly in the minority here but I hope, hope, hope that Gamora stays dead.

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https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-3-gamoa-role/

Gamora is inside the Soul Stone

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Ugggh.....see, her dying at the hands of her father Thanos means nothing now.

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it does in explaining Thanos as a villain. He kills probably the only thing he loves to complete this plan to wipe the universe, which he feels is the only way to save it.

Avengers: Infinity Gauntlets

Thats your spoiler... more than one.

I believe we have all the info we need to determine how this resolves more or less.

Ant Man who was not a part of IW and Captain Marvel who is also not here (yet)..... are the only 2 that have movies between now and A4. There has to be a reason those movies are in between.

Ant Man first encountered the Quantum Realms in his first movie through Pym (which could lead to alternate universes) and it is said that Capt. Marvel besides her powers also deals in Quantum Realms in her movie. I believe these two movies will deal with their own issues in some pre IW time period but also give us (the viewer) and them the answers for how to fight Thanos and it is through Quantum Realms. Dr. Strange also knows about them and may utilize them for seeing other timelines. He may in fact have been aware of how this happens when he gave Thanos the time stone.

They will somehow use quantum realms to visit other timelines where this has not happened and perhaps gather the Infinity Stones themselves to create another Gauntlet and repair or resurrect the timeline (or simply leave us in one of them) as well as defeating Thanos.

NOTE - I did read various theories some of which touched along these ideas. But I came up with the title.....

I admit that Forever isn't all that great, but it's better than almost everything else on that list. That said, I'm sticking by Endgame. That's the only one I truly like.

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spaceman said:

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Sorry if this has already been discussed but I haven't seen discussion elsewhere on in the interwebs ...

So, Stark asks Doctor Strange if there are any of the 14 million+ futures where we win, and he says "one". Then the scene cuts away. Then later, Strange gives up the time stone to Thanos to save Stark's life. (I assume Stark objected to this, but I don't recall his reaction exactly.) Strange says "it's the only way" or something. So ... what did Doctor Strange foresee, and did he tell Stark? If not, why the *** not? I assume after revealing there's only one way to beat Thanos, he would then have proceeded to share that info ... right?

Or maybe he did share it, and they were all in on the plan, and just had to make it LOOK like a good fight ... thoughts?

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easy answer, in his vision, he doesn't tell anyone else the plan

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See THAT's the part that's completely implausible. "Hey guys, we have only one chance in 14 million to save half the universe!"
"Oh yeah? HOW?"
"Sorry, I don't feel like sharing that info."

If that's what we are to assume happened, that's a disappointing cop-out. I'd expect that from a DC movie, not Marvel where our team of heroes actually operates like a team.

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OR... Avengers 4ever. Fast & Furious style.

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Avengers: Fantastic 4 ever?

spaceman said:

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PatAg said:

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spaceman said:

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Sorry if this has already been discussed but I haven't seen discussion elsewhere on in the interwebs ...

So, Stark asks Doctor Strange if there are any of the 14 million+ futures where we win, and he says "one". Then the scene cuts away. Then later, Strange gives up the time stone to Thanos to save Stark's life. (I assume Stark objected to this, but I don't recall his reaction exactly.) Strange says "it's the only way" or something. So ... what did Doctor Strange foresee, and did he tell Stark? If not, why the *** not? I assume after revealing there's only one way to beat Thanos, he would then have proceeded to share that info ... right?

Or maybe he did share it, and they were all in on the plan, and just had to make it LOOK like a good fight ... thoughts?

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easy answer, in his vision, he doesn't tell anyone else the plan

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See THAT's the part that's completely implausible. "Hey guys, we have only one chance in 14 million to save half the universe!"
"Oh yeah? HOW?"
"Sorry, I don't feel like sharing that info."

If that's what we are to assume happened, that's a disappointing cop-out. I'd expect that from a DC movie, not Marvel where our team of heroes actually operates like a team.

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I assumed he told them A plan, but not THE plan. If they knew the plan, it wouldn't come to pass. And that was how he saw it play out in the vision.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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TCTTS said:

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If I had to pick from this list, though, I'd go with either Avengers: Endgame or Avengers Forever.

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Only if shot entirely in neon and Dutch angles.

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I wanted to make this joke, but I can't improve upon this. Well done

About to watch for a second time... this time in 3D!!

A lot of people are putting too much into Strange's vision. He saw a lot of paths but it's not like he saw a step by step guide. The sole victory he saw included Thanos getting the Time Stone, but they still actively fought to prevent that. That means that nothing is certain and there must surely be scenarios where Thanos gets the Time Stone and wins.

It's also a cardinal rule of time travel in fiction that trying to interfere or alter time has negative consequences. Doctor Strange even touches on this when they impart the seriousness of tampering with time. It makes sense that Strange wouldn't try to broadcast what he saw or try to dictate to the others how to bring about victory.

They try to stop Thanos but fail. Rather than fighting to the death, Strange hands over the stone because he knows there is still hope and their deaths would be meaningless and maybe even counterproductive. That really is the extent of the use of the vision.

Charlie Conway said:

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Also, i know it's from the comics but I think Stormbringer is a better name than stormbreaker

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That's a bit much.

AliasMan02 said:

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A lot of people are putting too much into Strange's vision. He saw a lot of paths but it's not like he saw a step by step guide.

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Good point. I had assumed that by looking into the future, Strange knew exactly what needed to be done to win. If he doesn't, then it's all good.