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The Black Order weren't even a thing in the comics until 2012/2013. Not much to work with, and by the time Hickman wrote them many of the movies were already at least mapped out in concept.

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Great info, thanks!

Or launch infinity stones into a star or black hole. They are clearly not indestructible.

Giant Ant-Man HAS to factor in 4, right? He could down Thanos, I would think? Maybe even tear off the gauntlet.

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I thought the Black Order were pretty good considering they were just Thanos' muscle and didn't even say any of their names.

I thought Ebony Maw was especially great, and Carrie Coon was really good as Proxima.

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I thought they were too, they were just intriguing as characters and I'd have liked to have learned more about them.

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Giant Ant-Man HAS to factor in 4, right? He could down Thanos, I would think? Maybe even tear off the gauntlet.

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i don't know...if Peter Parker (or literally anybody who's seen Empire Strikes Back) can take him down, I'm guessing Thanos could as well.

i think Ant-Man might be more effective going small and trying to remove a stone from the gauntlet

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Yeah, I guess they did delve into the stones a little bit in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, but still feel like they could have done a little more to emphasize their importance in a few of the other movies. But just a minor complaint.

But my biggest complaint now that I think about it - Gamora new Thanos was after one of the stones, so she should have been able to put two and two together and figure out his overall plan if she didn't know it already. So why the hell haven't the Gaurdians been going after Thanos and or alerting the Nova Corps before infinity War? Hell they even gave that one infinity stone to the Nova Corps at the end of Guardians 1. So nobody thought to preemptively go after Thanos and take him down?

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None of this story-line is the same as the comic story. They pretty much had creative liberty to create whatever they wanted. I'm sure HISHE will give you what you want though.

So Captain Marvel is super important but I thought they'd at least introduct Adam Warlock. I would have loved to have Silver Surfer introduced in to the MCU. (Not the old crappy CGI surfer from FF2).

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Giant Ant-Man HAS to factor in 4, right? He could down Thanos, I would think? Maybe even tear off the gauntlet.

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i don't know...if Peter Parker (or literally anybody who's seen Empire Strikes Back) can take him down, I'm guessing Thanos could as well.

i think Ant-Man might be more effective going small and trying to remove a stone from the gauntlet

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Good point.

Maybe while he's busy fighting the others, Ant-Man sneaks into the gauntlet and hits the giant button.

Bam, gauntlet destroyed.

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Cromagnum said:

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The only stone we didn't see Thanos use an inrividual power from was the mind stone. I wonder if we get to see something in part 2.

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I don't think he used the soul stone either.

Power was used throughout for fighting.
Space used to travel.
Reality used for collector scene.
Time used against vision.

Mind and soul were not used exclusively, just in combination with the others for the finger snap.

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I thought the soul stone was used for the "snap"? I was under the assumption that Thanos captured the souls of half the universe with the "snap".

Is there a time (can't watch clips) where they actually say each stone actually DOES?

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texasaggie04 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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The only stone we didn't see Thanos use an inrividual power from was the mind stone. I wonder if we get to see something in part 2.

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I don't think he used the soul stone either.

Power was used throughout for fighting.
Space used to travel.
Reality used for collector scene.
Time used against vision.

Mind and soul were not used exclusively, just in combination with the others for the finger snap.

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I thought the soul stone was used for the "snap"? I was under the assumption that Thanos captured the souls of half the universe with the "snap".

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That's what I thought as well.

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Living Legend said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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The only stone we didn't see Thanos use an inrividual power from was the mind stone. I wonder if we get to see something in part 2.

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I don't think he used the soul stone either.

Power was used throughout for fighting.
Space used to travel.
Reality used for collector scene.
Time used against vision.

Mind and soul were not used exclusively, just in combination with the others for the finger snap.

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I thought the soul stone was used for the "snap"? I was under the assumption that Thanos captured the souls of half the universe with the "snap".

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That's what I thought as well.

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If that's the case, wouldn't he just be able to snap as soon as he had the soul stone?

AgMarauder04 said:

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Champ Bailey said:

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Living Legend said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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The only stone we didn't see Thanos use an inrividual power from was the mind stone. I wonder if we get to see something in part 2.

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I don't think he used the soul stone either.

Power was used throughout for fighting.
Space used to travel.
Reality used for collector scene.
Time used against vision.

Mind and soul were not used exclusively, just in combination with the others for the finger snap.

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I thought the soul stone was used for the "snap"? I was under the assumption that Thanos captured the souls of half the universe with the "snap".

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That's what I thought as well.

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If that's the case, wouldn't he just be able to snap as soon as he had the soul stone?

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Nobody knows because they didn't really explain the stones.

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I mentioned this earlier, but if Thanos is truly an omnipotent timewielding, reality altering god now, why does he still feel the need kill half the universe? Why can't he simply create a new reality where resources are bountiful?

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Maybe it's just Thanos obsessively having to prove his plan was correct. He had a plan to save his home world, and they ignored him, and perished for that mistake. Something snaps, and he is now on a mission to prove and/or redeem himself?

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I woulda preferred if they stuck to the idea of him trying to impress 'death.' The altruistic motive falls apart for me once he actually acquires the stones.

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Not sure how well they could have pulled off the "Death" motivation and still have the average moviegoer buy into it. I feel like they had to go the route they did on behalf of non-comic fans. It was a more easy and quick way to characterize Thanos considering we really didn't know anything about him before this movie. But, I feel like they route they went almost did too good of a job "humanizing" him. It almost made him too soft, what with his feelings for Gamora combined with his twisted-logic desire to "help" the universe by culling the population.

I would have loved to see the comic book Thanos - a complete hardass who slaughters whole planetary populations without reservation. That guy is truly one scary badass.

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This brings up a question/concern of mine from the movie. Why doesn't Thanos kill the Guardians at Knowhere? Or why does he take Strange's deal and not kill Tony after he gets the stone? We already know from Dinklage's charater that he has gone back on promises to spare people after he receives what he wanted from the deal.

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AgMarauder04 said:

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Champ Bailey said:

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Living Legend said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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Cromagnum said:

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The only stone we didn't see Thanos use an inrividual power from was the mind stone. I wonder if we get to see something in part 2.

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I don't think he used the soul stone either.

Power was used throughout for fighting.
Space used to travel.
Reality used for collector scene.
Time used against vision.

Mind and soul were not used exclusively, just in combination with the others for the finger snap.

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I thought the soul stone was used for the "snap"? I was under the assumption that Thanos captured the souls of half the universe with the "snap".

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That's what I thought as well.

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If that's the case, wouldn't he just be able to snap as soon as he had the soul stone?

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i'm guessing that he needs them all to cross the entire universe, and to prevent anyone from running interference with another stone.

soul stone - captures/removes souls
power stone - amplifies the magnitude of the soul stone
time/space stones - makes the snap simultaneous across the universe
reality stone - ??
mind stone - profit

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Alternate theory:

What if everyone who turned to ash didn't actually die, but was captured in the Soul Stone. IW4 could end with everyone being freed from the Soul Stone.

That's a comic appropriate ending without just using time travel as a deus ex machina that cheapens IW3.

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Alternate theory:

What if everyone who turned to ash didn't actually die, but was captured in the Soul Stone. IW4 could end with everyone being freed from the Soul Stone.

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I don't see how this helps. Thanos is too powerful. Even without the soul stone, no one can defeat him.then he could just reverse time and undo the destruction of the soul stone.

Somehow, Thanos has to decide for himself to reverse what he's done.

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Alternate theory:

What if everyone who turned to ash didn't actually die, but was captured in the Soul Stone. IW4 could end with everyone being freed from the Soul Stone.

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I don't see how this helps. Thanos is too powerful. Even without the soul stone, no one can defeat him.then he could just reverse time and undo the destruction of the soul stone.

Somehow, Thanos has to decide for himself to reverse what he's done.

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They've said that IW4 is like a heist film. I assume it's remaining Avengers stealing the Gauntlet from Thanos.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/09/avengers-infinity-war-influences-joe-russo-heist-film/

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Fightin TX Aggie said:

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Alternate theory:

What if everyone who turned to ash didn't actually die, but was captured in the Soul Stone. IW4 could end with everyone being freed from the Soul Stone.

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I don't see how this helps. Thanos is too powerful. Even without the soul stone, no one can defeat him.then he could just reverse time and undo the destruction of the soul stone.

Somehow, Thanos has to decide for himself to reverse what he's done.

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They've said that IW4 is like a heist film. I assume it's remaining Avengers stealing the Gauntlet from Thanos.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/03/09/avengers-infinity-war-influences-joe-russo-heist-film/

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That article said THIS MOVIE was the heist film.

I was thinking about that while watching and nothing in IW felt even remotely heist-like to me. I guess, yeah, sure, they had a plan to get the gauntlet, but it was executed in the most un-heist like way possible. Which is not a knock, btw. I just kept waiting for the heist element to come in and it never did.

When I read the article, it came across that THANOS was the "thief" and the Avengers were the "law" reacting to his moves.

I guess? But even that didn't have the elements of lets-get-the-team-tegether / plan-the-heist / execute-the-heist that most heist movies have.

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What I do wish, my only semi-complaint, is that they would have given us a better idea of the significance of the stones in the standalone movies building up to IW. By "us" I mean the average moviegoer, not the comic nerd/superfan who's been hashing over this stuff for years on message boards.

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Not to mention all the times that they were USED in Capt 1, Avengers, Thor 2, GOTG, and Ultron.

Also, they briefly rehashed the origin of them again in IW.

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You kind of proved my point. For example, in the first clip you showed all they said was they didn't want to keep two Infinity Stones in the same location and then the collector said one down and five more to go. You realize that tells us absolutely nothing about what the Infinity Stones are, what they do, or how powerful they are, right?

And in the other movies where they showed them being used (like Cap 1), that still gives us absolutely no clue of what they truly are or their true significance. I recognized them because I know them from the comics. Someone who doesn't know them from the comics was probably left scratching their head wondering what an infinity stone was until that very brief explanation in Guardians 1. And come on, Thor's vision? That was about as vague as could be, especially for someone who didn't have any comic knowledge of the stones.

I can only assume from the clips that you used as examples that you're coming at it from someone who has knowledge via the comics, and you're wondering how anybody could see those clips and not immediately deduce what Infinity Stones are.

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In this context, individual comics panels are said to have "cinematic" qualities if they give viewers the impression that they're literally seeing time pass before their eyes (almost like a lousy, mostly empty flipbook). First, a three-panel page of a meteor as it's about to crash-land (panel one: a twinkle in the sky; panel two: twinkle becomes big enough to make out it's a meteor; panel three: brace for impact!) then a two-page spread of said meteor as it blows up real good.

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So for starters, this reviewer has no idea what the term "cinematic" means...

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It's the start of the finale of a 10-year action adventure story, not The Shape of Water.

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That's true... Infinity War was actually good.

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Bam!