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TCTTS said:

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Again, it's not about believable vs. unbelievable. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It's about the implications thematically.

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And I don't know how I can make it more clear - it matters not to me and lots of people.

I'm not talking about the plot/theme/etc. ALL of their powers are unbelievable. "Grounded in science" or not it's all FICTION and anything is possible. A god or god-like powers are no different - TO ME.

Great movie, great portrayal and great story. And that aspect did not detract at all. I leave all suspension of disbelief at the door in a superhero movie. They change, rewrite, rebirth and repurpose crap all the time.

Anyway. you have your opinion. I have mine. Leave it at that.

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Um, you're the one arguing about it.

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Am I not entitled to my opinion?

I stated it. then others started replying to me.

And to be perfectly clear I did not reply to ANYONE specifically. So I wasn't starting an argument. Just stating my opinion.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Huh? You specifically replied to TCTTS and laughed off his opinion.

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No I did not. thats an absolute lie. Look back at my post on the previous page. I replied to NO ONE, I quoted NO ONE and despite what fig says I also did not restate what anyone said.

I didn't even reply to anyone specifically in my second follow-up post.


and TC was far from the only one jumping on gods aspect.

I was speaking in general.

They probably explained it and I missed it, but what was Ares' motivation for helping send WW and crew to the front? Just to test her mettle?

Missed that explanation as well. No idea.

I'll speak for myself, but I'm not the least bit upset or bent out of shape. Just thought it was fairly clear you were posting that in response to TC's post. Apologies.

Bottom line is everyone has a right to their opinion whether it falls in line with the popular opinion or not. And for the record, you're one of my favorite posters on this board.

Makes sense. Good explanation.

I thought I was watching a Marvel film, from the battle on the beach and especially after the no man's land scene.

And then the battle with Ares happened, and it felt like the end of BvS or even an Xmen movie. It tried waaaaay to hard to be this huge glorious battle, and it just didn't fit.

Gadot was amazing, and she looked so damn good. I enjoyed WW more than I enjoyed TDK. Does that make WW a "better" movie than TDK? Probably not, as I won't convince anyone that it actually is. But watching WW (and Gadot) was a fun night at the theater.

I think the most surprising thing in all of this is how much TexAgs is unanimously loving Godot. Because when she was originally cast, this board was irate. People hated the choice, almost universally. So many claims of her being too skinny, not American, a bad actress, etc. Funny what actually watching the movie can do. And don't get me wrong, I wasn't enthusiastic about the choice either. Just interesting to see it play out like this. That said, I also didn't think she knocked it out of the park either. She definitely delivered what was required of her, and there really was a nice, Christopher Reeve-like quality to her performance, but she didn't exactly wow me either. Like the movie itself, I thought she was serviceable to good at times, but nothing more.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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fig96 said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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Again, it's not about believable vs. unbelievable. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It's about the implications thematically.

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And I don't know how I can make it more clear - it matters not to me and lots of people.

I'm not talking about the plot/theme/etc. ALL of their powers are unbelievable. "Grounded in science" or not it's all FICTION and anything is possible. A god or god-like powers are no different - TO ME.

Great movie, great portrayal and great story. And that aspect did not detract at all. I leave all suspension of disbelief at the door in a superhero movie. They change, rewrite, rebirth and repurpose crap all the time.

Anyway. you have your opinion. I have mine. Leave it at that.

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Um, you're the one arguing about it.

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Am I not entitled to my opinion?

I stated it. then others started replying to me.

And to be perfectly clear I did not reply to ANYONE specifically. So I wasn't starting an argument. Just stating my opinion.

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Don't waste your time.

This board is an echo chamber of people who want to give Wonder Women a "Meh" rating.

We both know better. Not many movies get a 93 Rotten Tomatoes rating by both the critics and the audience. It's greatness any way you slice it.

And now we have people here insinuating that it only got 93 on account that Gal Gabot is a hottie. As if 93% of the film critics made their judgement solely on Gadot's sex appeal. This is becoming comical.

And I had people insinuate that I was a misongynist for not thinking Kim is a Saint on Better Call Saul. FTR, that character is not only Saul's f Buddy, she's gone along with some of his cons. Some saint.

Although I have to admit, this board is definitely "Entertainment".

BTW, you are 100% right on the suspension of disbelief, as you are on comic characters basically being rewritten every 30-40 years. I had a comic com friend get indignant over this Wonder Woman using a sword. In his words, "Wonder Woman doesn't have a sword!" Well this one does, get over it.

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I think the most surprising thing in all of this is how much TexAgs is unanimously loving Godot. Because when she was originally cast, this board was irate. People hated the choice, almost universally. So many claims of her being too skinny, not American, a bad actress, etc. Funny what actually watching the movie can do. And don't get me wrong, I wasn't enthusiastic about the choice either. Just interesting to see it play out like this. That said, I also didn't think she knocked it out of the park either. She definitely delivered what was required of her, and there really was a nice, Christopher Reeve-like quality to her performance, but she didn't exactly wow me either. Like the movie itself, I thought she was serviceable to good at times, but nothing more.

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It's spelled "Gadot".

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They probably explained it and I missed it, but what was Ares' motivation for helping send WW and crew to the front? Just to test her mettle?

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I think my wife said it best. Ares was just keeping an eye on his enemy.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I'll speak for myself, but I'm not the least bit upset or bent out of shape. Just thought it was fairly clear you were posting that in response to TC's post. Apologies.

Bottom line is everyone has a right to their opinion whether it falls in line with the popular opinion or not. And for the record, you're one of my favorite posters on this board.

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Ditto.

You might be right, but one of the main takeaways informing my argument is the shots of the Nazi soldiers at the very end, right after Ares is finally killed. They act as if they've awaken from a daze (or evil spell), just as Diana said they would early in the movie. Then one of them even hugs the Native American guy. That right there tells me it wasn't just Ares whispering in ears, but rather actually influencing minds, decisions, desires, etc.

Valid point. That was weird to me too. But remember, there weren't nazis yet in WW1.

I just need someone to tell me if Ares makes the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor

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I think the most surprising thing in all of this is how much TexAgs is unanimously loving Godot. Because when she was originally cast, this board was irate. People hated the choice, almost universally. So many claims of her being too skinny, not American, a bad actress, etc. Funny what actually watching the movie can do.

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I believe this board was the same kind of up in arms 55 years ago when Ben Affleck was first cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman, and after BvS finally came out, he was praised as being among the best aspects of that movie.

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I think the most surprising thing in all of this is how much TexAgs is unanimously loving Godot. Because when she was originally cast, this board was irate. People hated the choice, almost universally. So many claims of her being too skinny, not American, a bad actress, etc. Funny what actually watching the movie can do.

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I believe this board was the same kind of up in arms 55 years ago when Ben Affleck was first cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman, and after BvS finally came out, he was praised as being among the best aspects of that movie.

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Indeed. I've been here for the casting meltdowns of Heath Ledger, Affleck, and Gadot. All universally panned at the outset, all universally praised once the movie finally came out.