That's a bit of a misunderstanding of what RT scores are in part too.Brian Earl Spilner said:
That's what's causing genuine confusion to me, and a perfect example of why I hardly trust RT scores anymore.
It's a good movie, but I am honestly curious if there was something I missed that is causing all the rave reviews. Mentioning this as a top 5 superhero movie is a little ridiculous.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
That's what's causing genuine confusion to me, and a perfect example of why I hardly trust RT scores anymore.
It's a good movie, but I am honestly curious if there was something I missed that is causing all the rave reviews. Mentioning this as a top 5 superhero movie is a little ridiculous.
Right, I realize you do, but some seem to be referencing RT as supporting a fact it doesn't actually support.Brian Earl Spilner said:
I understand that completely. But the reactions on Texags are what I'm referring to. Calling it better than Nolan's TDK trilogy, etc.
I thought it was entertaining but not especially compelling. fig96 said:Um, Logan like 2 months agoCrazyDayDuck said:
iWonder Woman has a 93 on Rotten Tomatoes (both critics and audience). When was the last time any Super Hero movie had ratings that high?
It's fun and get why it appeals to people, and there's nothing wrong with liking it a lot. It just wasn't as compelling as Iron Man, either Guardians, or Winter Soldier.
If you disagree, more power to you. Discussing this stuff is one of the best things about movies.
Zombie Jon Snow said:BBRex said:
Gal Gadot is what makes this movie. She's hot, but she also plays the character right. She's comfortable in the character and never appears to try too hard to make her a superhero. Then the chemistry with Chris Pine sort of seals it. The overall story is good, with a few missteps, and the actions scenes are more good than bad. But you never shake the belief that she IS Wonder Woman.
THIS.
Note: I think part of what really helps this is besides the look and demeanor, I don't know Gal Gadot from anything else. She wasn't an actor I already knew and therefore there was no suspension of disbelief. She is and always will be WW in my eyes because she totally owned this role in the same way Christopher Reeves was just Superman. And yes I can remember Linda Carter as WW, but not so ingrained because it wasn't a movie and I didn't watch it multiple times over the years.
A lot of superhero movies (most really) I already knew the lead actor from many other things so they were just playing the role to me (Iron Man, Spiderman, Batman, etc.).
fig96 said:That's a bit of a misunderstanding of what RT scores are in part too.Brian Earl Spilner said:
That's what's causing genuine confusion to me, and a perfect example of why I hardly trust RT scores anymore.
It's a good movie, but I am honestly curious if there was something I missed that is causing all the rave reviews. Mentioning this as a top 5 superhero movie is a little ridiculous.
They're aggregate, meaning 93% of reviewers liked it, not that's it's a 93/100 film.
Actually, the critics and I pretty much line up. Here's a better sense of how they rated it:CrazyDayDuck said:fig96 said:That's a bit of a misunderstanding of what RT scores are in part too.Brian Earl Spilner said:
That's what's causing genuine confusion to me, and a perfect example of why I hardly trust RT scores anymore.
It's a good movie, but I am honestly curious if there was something I missed that is causing all the rave reviews. Mentioning this as a top 5 superhero movie is a little ridiculous.
They're aggregate, meaning 93% of reviewers liked it, not that's it's a 93/100 film.
So if a President has a 93% approval rating, that just means 93% of Americans like the job he is doing. Not that he is 93/100 President, huh?
You contrarians need to stop while you're behind.
I've always found her powers to be kinda vague across the board, would be curious if someone who's more familiar with the source could clarify.Aggie_Journalist said:
Wonder woman's powers are incredibly vague right now. early in the movie she gets scratched during the beach fight and bleeds on her arm, though it heals fairly quickly. Later in the movie, Ares throws random jagged missiles at her and she somehow makes them disintegrate before they reach her.
So, her strength hovers somewhere between "Anyone can kill her with a well placed shot," and "If you get close to her, she can make you dissolve."
I didn't say it was better than the TDK trilogy, just TDKR which IMO was a massive disappointment. Massive.Brian Earl Spilner said:
I understand that completely. But the reactions on Texags are what I'm referring to. Calling it better than Nolan's TDK trilogy, etc.
This has already been replied to sufficiently enough by other posters, but if you think I would ever post a review just to be a contrarian, you couldn't be more off base. Agree with me or not, when I post reviews here, they're MY views. MY genuine thoughts of the movie. I could not care less about either being in line or against the line of what everyone else is thinking.CrazyDayDuck said:TCTTS said:
Just got out and I thought it was... fine. I'm glad to see it exceeding expectations at the box office, and it's a genuine relief that WB/DC finally has an entry in this cinematic universe that they don't have to be ashamed of, but I honestly don't see what puts it above any other middle-of-the-pack superhero movie in terms of quality/story. Obviously, the female lead aspect sets it apart in that regard, but I kept waiting for this amazing experience everyone is claiming it to be, and it just never happened for me.
Godot was good, as was Pine, and I really liked the overall look/production design, but there were quite a few clunky moments, the action didn't stand apart in an really way, Ludendorff and Dr. Poison were laughably bad, and the effects more often than not were super-iffy, if not pretty terrible at times. And that final fight... ooof. I's genuinely surprising how all-in WB/DC are going on the general sameness/sh*tiness of their climactic battles. It's all just dark, muted, CGI gobletygoop in which pain doesn't exist and everyone is invincible until they're suddenly not for some reason.
I don't know... I get why people are into it, I had fun with big chunks of it, and it was genuinely cool to hear the cheers from the audience at times, but to compare it to the greats of the genre seems kind of crazy to me. In fact, if I had to choose between the two superhero origin movies set during either of the World Wars, starring a male lead named Steve who sacrificially flies/diverts a plane in the climax to save thousands... I'd probably go with Captain America: The First Avenger.
Come on man. You contrarians need to stop it. This is a GREAT Super Hero flick ... and everyone knows it.
Wonder Woman has a 93 on Rotten Tomatoes (both critics and audience). When was the last time any Super Hero movie had ratings that high?
It even edges out "The Avengers", which had a rating of 92.
Captain America: The First Avenger was at 80 and Captain America: Civil War scored a 90.
Guardians 2 had a better opening weekend but I think WW could have more staying power and surpass it domestically.
TCTTS said:
Again, it's not about believable vs. unbelievable. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It's about the implications thematically.
The whole Aries thing is what gets me. I mean, I could have probably been ok with some kind of Greek God Pantheon Civil War that wiped them all out, but the idea that one is still around, and the idea is THAT'S why we have war is just a little much for me.TCTTS said:
Again, it's not about believable vs. unbelievable. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It's about the implications thematically.
Um, you're the one arguing about it.Zombie Jon Snow said:TCTTS said:
Again, it's not about believable vs. unbelievable. I don't know how I can make that more clear. It's about the implications thematically.
And I don't know how I can make it more clear - it matters not to me and lots of people.
I'm not talking about the plot/theme/etc. ALL of their powers are unbelievable. "Grounded in science" or not it's all FICTION and anything is possible. A god or god-like powers are no different - TO ME.
Great movie, great portrayal and great story. And that aspect did not detract at all. I leave all suspension of disbelief at the door in a superhero movie. They change, rewrite, rebirth and repurpose crap all the time.
Anyway. you have your opinion. I have mine. Leave it at that.
