Anyone read the Kingkiller Chronicles?

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In reply to JJxvi • 9:44a, 10/6/21
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Of course you're right (until you're not). Rothfuss may never finish the story - but I do wish if he wasn't going to; he'd at least let someone else ghost write it with his input on the plot. I bet there are a handful of people out there (like Sanderson) who could do a good to great job of imitating his style.

I'll never understand someone who can leave a great work like this completely unfinished at 66%...
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 9:50a, 10/6/21
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SpreadsheetAg said:
I'll never understand someone who can leave a great work like this completely unfinished at 66%...
Obviously because to him, it never was that great, meaningful, or important
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10:19a, 10/6/21
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Are the first two worth reading knowing that the series will likely never be finished?

Sanderson has spoiled me.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 10:21a, 10/6/21
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Champ Bailey said:
Are the first two worth reading knowing that the series will likely never be finished?

Sanderson has spoiled me.
The first one was good. The second one was a step down in quality building to something more that will likely never happen. I wouldn't recommend it.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 10:26a, 10/6/21
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I'd recommend just reading the first. But it will make you mad there isn't more to the story. The second will make you even more mad and ultimately disappointed.
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In reply to Prime0882 • 11:54a, 10/6/21
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Champ Bailey said:
Are the first two worth reading knowing that the series will likely never be finished?

Sanderson has spoiled me.
The first one was good. The second one was a step down in quality building to something more that will likely never happen. I wouldn't recommend it.
i enjoyed the second book but man his time with Fae was brutal reading.

and curse somebody for posting to this thread, bringing it to the top, without an update to book 3.

and curse myself for following in their footsteps.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 1:22p, 10/6/21
Champ Bailey said:
Are the first two worth reading knowing that the series will likely never be finished?

Sanderson has spoiled me.


I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I didn't really care for either book. The framing story is really interesting, but I spent most of the actual core story trying to find a likeable character, and failing to do so.
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In reply to Claude! • 6:30p, 10/6/21
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Claude! said:
Champ Bailey said:
Are the first two worth reading knowing that the series will likely never be finished?

Sanderson has spoiled me.


I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I didn't really care for either book. The framing story is really interesting, but I spent most of the actual core story trying to find a likeable character, and failing to do so.
You're right about the characters...

Kvoeth is likeable sorta, but in an underdog with potential and a rooting for the kid to get out of his own way kind of likeable.

Denna or whatever her name is that is the love interest is absolutely BRUTAL... Rothfuss is obviously projecting with this writing - about some girl he was in love with as a teen that completely abused his sick obsession with her and his own internal turmoil and beta-male mindedness knowing she was doing this and still holding out hope things would work out. Move on bro, she's NOT worth it.
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6:58p, 10/6/21
I loved them both. Everyone who mentions the fae part taking so long must have only read the book once. I thought it took a while the first time, as well. My second read through, I was surprised at how short it seemed.
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8:45p, 10/6/21
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I have my doubts as well that he'll actually release Doors of Stone. I think the build up is too big for his ego to fail. Sucks though. Also waiting for book 4 (The Thorn of Emberlain) of Lynch's Gentleman ******* series. Scott Lynch is up there with Rothfuss in my opinion as far as writing style. Also really liked the Broken Empire trilogy by Mark Lawrence, who is an exceptional writer. For those that have read these, have you also read Abercrombie's First Law series? This was recommended to me and I find the writing quality dreadful. Going from Lawrence to this has been hard to do. Going to stick with it but I really constantly question if it's worth it.
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In reply to StinkyPinky • 8:50p, 10/6/21
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I read them all. I didn't really care for Abercrombie. I might give him another try since its been a long time...but I found the First Law series very meh.
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In reply to mpl35 • 8:56p, 10/6/21
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Yea, it's pretty painful, especially when there are other books I want to get to. I hear his stand alone book related to the series Better Served Cold (?) is good, but I can't see how. His prose is lame at best.
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In reply to StinkyPinky • 9:13p, 10/6/21
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Yes. I hated his style. Overall I just found them mediocre at best. I have the Best served Cold novel and haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
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9:32p, 10/6/21
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I think it's just more likely that he had a great idea for the first book, the 2nd book was pretty good still, and he just doesn't know how to tell the third story.
I'd rather get no 3rd book than a crappy 3rd book, I think.

If only he would just shut up
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In reply to mpl35 • 12:42p, 10/7/21
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mpl35 said:
Yes. I hated his style. Overall I just found them mediocre at best. I have the Best served Cold novel and haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
I liked the trilogy, but if you didn't it's unlikely that you will like the stand alone novels. I'm a fan, and I think they're a step down from the main books.
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 1:59p, 10/7/21
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Of course you're right (until you're not). Rothfuss may never finish the story - but I do wish if he wasn't going to; he'd at least let someone else ghost write it with his input on the plot. I bet there are a handful of people out there (like Sanderson) who could do a good to great job of imitating his style.

I'll never understand someone who can leave a great work like this completely unfinished at 66%...


The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that Rothfuss is a ****ing liar. When he released the first book, he stated over and over that all 3 books were already written and would be released at 12 month intervals. Clearly not the truth.
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In reply to StinkyPinky • 2:00p, 10/7/21
Scott Lynch is awesome. He has also been very open with his readers about his mental health struggles and how the have affected his writing.
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In reply to maverick2076 • 2:23p, 10/7/21
Been waiting on Thorn of Emberlain. The Republic of Thieves was by far the best of the series, so far.
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2:45p, 10/7/21
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I think I've progressively liked the Lynch's books less, but that's not because I think any of them are bad. The first one was freaking amazing and the second one was stupid fun. The third was a great read but just didn't do as much for me comparably.
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2:57p, 10/7/21
Similar vein, I really enjoyed Anthony Ryan's Raven's Shadow series. Well written fantasy series that's a little different than most of the genre.
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In reply to heddleston • 3:58p, 10/7/21
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I liked 1>3>2 for Lynch. But the first was very good
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In reply to Lola68 • 4:00p, 10/7/21
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Lola68 said:
Similar vein, I really enjoyed Anthony Ryan's Raven's Shadow series. Well written fantasy series that's a little different than most of the genre.


Thanks for the suggestion. Trying to decide what I want to read next
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In reply to Lola68 • 6:58p, 10/7/21
Tower Lord is mediocre, and Queen of Fire is absolute trash. Blood Song is fantastic, though.
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In reply to DallasTeleAg • 7:38p, 10/7/21
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DallasTeleAg said:
Tower Lord is mediocre, and Queen of Fire is absolute trash. Blood Song is fantastic, though.
Trash? come on. not as good. sub par. wouldn't read the series if this was Book 1....

Sure.

Trash. I have some "recs" for you!
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9:39p, 10/7/21
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I've made the decision I'm going to fight through The Blade Itself. Just see it so much as one of the highest Grimdark books. I'm 20% of the way through so will see if it surprises me.
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9:43p, 10/7/21
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**** i'm sorry i did this
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In reply to mpl35 • 9:45p, 10/7/21
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I mean… it's pretty damn bad…

My worst critique is "couldn't make it to the end".
"Trash but finished" seems about right,
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In reply to mpl35 • 12:22a, 10/8/21
Oh no... i'm sticking with "trash". Only reason I finished it was because I am compulsive and have to finish a series when I start it. I can't point to a worst book I have actually finished, in my life.
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7:19a, 10/8/21
Have you read the new one? Blood Song was easily the best of the series. "Trash" is a little strong.
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In reply to mpl35 • 8:14a, 10/8/21
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mpl35 said:
I liked 1>3>2 for Lynch. But the first was very good


This! Red Seas Under Red Skies was the least interesting. Thankfully it picked up at the end to help make the transition to Republic of Thieves positive. Republic of Thieves was fairly strong, but nothing can match the first book.
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In reply to maverick2076 • 8:25a, 10/8/21
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maverick2076 said:
SpreadsheetAg said:
Of course you're right (until you're not). Rothfuss may never finish the story - but I do wish if he wasn't going to; he'd at least let someone else ghost write it with his input on the plot. I bet there are a handful of people out there (like Sanderson) who could do a good to great job of imitating his style.

I'll never understand someone who can leave a great work like this completely unfinished at 66%...


The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that Rothfuss is a ****ing liar. When he released the first book, he stated over and over that all 3 books were already written and would be released at 12 month intervals. Clearly not the truth.


Yea, I think credibility has been lost with him. I've been thinking his inability to get this done is his fear of failure after it's risen to the heights it has in pop culture and the expectations for it. But now I'm wondering if he is so financially comfortable from the success of the first two that he has no motivation to work. I mean, what else has he really done? I agree with someone else's comment that I'd rather it be left unfinished rather than finished with half azzed garbage.
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1:12p, 10/8/21
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A good author would be compelled to put the story to paper, regardless of financial situation
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In reply to PatAg • 2:24p, 10/8/21
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PatAg said:
A good author would be compelled to put the story to paper, regardless of financial situation


I would agree with that and hope it's the case. But there are always the exceptions.
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In reply to StinkyPinky • 3:36p, 10/8/21
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PatAg said:
A good author would be compelled to put the story to paper, regardless of financial situation


I would agree with that and hope it's the case. But there are always the exceptions.


Remember, Rothfuss couldn't write for the entire Trump presidency because he was too upset. (His words)
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4:38p, 10/8/21
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So, not even going to pose it as a question since I've already made my decision (which is yes), but I was trying to determine (embarrassed to admit this) if I wanted to go back and read A Song of Ice and Fire after watching Game Of Thrones. Is it significantly better such that I should read those next, or wait until I've read others on my list that interest me (and yes, I understand they are arguable the Creme De La Creme of fantasy), but relative to the show?
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