GoFundMe for Karmelo Anthony

295,668 Views | 2364 Replies | Last: 3 hrs ago by Old_Ag_91
Z3phyr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
5 inches is plenty big, maybe even too big
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
defense is going to try to discredit every single close eye witness because they were all Austin and Hunter Metcalf's friends and teammates. they have to convince the jury to not believe the testimony of probably a dozen eye witnesses.
agent-maroon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
normalhorn said:

Regardless of the Code of Conduct waiver being a legally binding contract, the murderer was in violation of Texas Penal Code (Section 46.03) by being in possession of a weapon on school property. From what I read, the knife was 5.5" or longer, which would make him guilty of possessing a "location-restricted knife". I'm not an attorney, so I may be completely wrong in my opinion.

Why he was not also charged with a 3rd Degree Felony in this case, I don't know.

Wouldn't a murder in the simultaneous commission of a felony rise to the level of a capital crime? I know for a fact that a a kid just out of high school was found guilty of capital murder because he stole the audio equipment he used when molesting him for drug money. The value of the stolen goods just crossed the felony theft threshold so the prosecutor pressed for life in prison and got it.
usmcbrooks
How long do you want to ignore this user?
oh no said:

defense is going to try to discredit every single close eye witness because they were all Austin and Hunter Metcalf's friends and teammates. they have to convince the jury to not believe the testimony of probably a dozen eye witnesses.

I have a hard time believing a defense attorney can convince a jury that 12 eyewitnesses are lying just to put one "honest in fear of his life" black kid in prison.
Tree Hugger
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Quote:

5 inches is plenty big, maybe even too big

said no woman ever

now back to our regularly scheduled program.....
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Tree Hugger said:

Quote:

5 inches is plenty big, maybe even too big

said no woman ever

now back to our regularly scheduled program.....

but surly it's adequate, right?
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
To move to capital murder based on the murder happening during the commission or attempted commission of a felony, the felony has to be one of these: kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat

I'm Gipper
Muy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Reginald Cousins said:

Fenrir said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

ShaggySLC said:

The first witness ruined that by explaining what the track tents mean and the culture

I don't disagree that Anthony likely knew he wasn't supposed to be in there, but track meet rules aren't legally binding.

The case is entirely about whether Anthony was legitimately in fear for his life, which he wasn't. In the absence of that, nothing else matters.

Showing that he was somewhere he knew he wasn't supposed in addition to his provocation towards Metcalf damages his argument. Something doesn't have to be illegal in order to be utilized as supporting evidence against a defendant. You're trying very hard to show that his being there wasn't problematic for some reason.


Good God, this. Weird how obsessed some are with "legality".

He went somewhere he shouldn't have been. Was told to leave. Got pushed. And killed a man. It's all relevant to the case.


You left off "and packed a knife in his bag". This was premeditated.
TheRatt87
How long do you want to ignore this user?
MaryAnn Martinez is one of the few media members in the courtroom and is providing updates on her X feed. Here is one of her latest, but definitely worth reading all of her posts from today. Witnesses blowing up KA's self defense and racial angles.
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The rest:
Quote:

The second teen was sitting right next to Karmelo. Austin's shoving of Karmelo wasn't even hard enough that Karmelo touched him when it happened. Second teen says stabbing happened so quickly that he didn't even realize it had happened and he was sitting right next to Karmelo
'I just remember being in shock and not really knowing where to go,' the second teen says once he realized what had happened.
Prosector: Did it seem like Austin was trying to pick a fight?
Second teen: no sir
Prosecutor: Did it seem like Karmelo wanted to pick a fight?
Second teen: yes sir

BadMoonRisin
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Yokel still arguing the "dindu nuffin" defense.

Pathetic.
Gaeilge
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Z3phyr said:

From CBS:

After a lunch break, the prosecution called a Memorial High School track athlete to the stand who witnessed the fatal encounter between his teammate Austin Metcalf and Karmelo Anthony. The judge prohibited the media from identifying the witness.
The witness said that by the time he arrived, Anthony was already under the Memorial High School tent in the bleachers at Kuykendall Stadium. The witness recounted that he and other Memorial athletes under the tent asked Anthony to leave multiple times.
At first it was not aggressive, he said, but then tensions escalated.
"I remember Karmelo refusing to leave and Austin saying 'You need to leave,' and Karmelo saying 'Touch me and find out,'" the witness said.
The witness also denied that anyone was ganging up on Anthony, and that Anthony was the one provoking the situation. The defense is arguing that Anthony acted in self defense.
"Austin leans in to push him and Karmelo stabs him," the witness said. "Karmelo had his hands inside a backpack and we thought it was bluff."
He said he and others didn't believe Anthony would do anything because they live in a safe community.

The defense needs to be in a backroom trying to work a deal so Karmelo has a chance at a life outside of prison one day. Dude is cooked.
Z3phyr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The 2nd black teen is obviously racist wanting to get the straight-A student, future doctor, puppy-saving KA locked up.
Muy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
SIAP
The Ex Officio Director
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Tree Hugger said:

Quote:

5 inches is plenty big, maybe even too big

said no woman ever

now back to our regularly scheduled program.....


Wife is happy with the 3.5 inches that she pulls from her purse each time she's in a store. Size does matter when it comes to bank accounts.

As for the trial. This case should be open closed. If this incident, happened 20 years ago. Special K would have already been locked up and sentenced.

But because of crooked. politicians blm movement and all the other bull**** that has gone since then. Now these types of murder trials drag on and on and on.

The victim becomes the aggressor and the aggressor becomes the victim.

Why So many people are having fatigue. Former HPD officer Ashley Gonzales was correct in what she said.
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
Fenrir
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggiehawg said:

The rest:
Quote:

The second teen was sitting right next to Karmelo. Austin's shoving of Karmelo wasn't even hard enough that Karmelo touched him when it happened. Second teen says stabbing happened so quickly that he didn't even realize it had happened and he was sitting right next to Karmelo
'I just remember being in shock and not really knowing where to go,' the second teen says once he realized what had happened.
Prosector: Did it seem like Austin was trying to pick a fight?
Second teen: no sir
Prosecutor: Did it seem like Karmelo wanted to pick a fight?
Second teen: yes sir



Btw, as someone without twitter...I really appreciate the people that copy and paste longer posts and responses.
Gaeilge
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Olds...

j/k
agent-maroon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Im Gipper said:

To move to capital murder based on the murder happening during the commission or attempted commission of a felony, the felony has to be one of these: kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat

Thank you for the explanation
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Quote:

The second teen was sitting right next to Karmelo. Austin's shoving of Karmelo wasn't even hard enough that Karmelo touched him when it happened. Second teen says stabbing happened so quickly that he didn't even realize it had happened and he was sitting right next to Karmelo
'I just remember being in shock and not really knowing where to go,' the second teen says once he realized what had happened.

Prosector: Did it seem like Austin was trying to pick a fight?

Second teen: no sir

Prosecutor: Did it seem like Karmelo wanted to pick a fight?

Second teen: yes sir

Haleyscomet50
How long do you want to ignore this user?
normalhorn said:

txyaloo said:

ShaggySLC said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

normalhorn said:

If you played any kind of sport at the high school level you understand team spaces and not crossing boundaries. You just didn't do it.





It's been a long time since I played team sports, but I had friends on other teams. It wasn't unusual to sit with them or their team during events. I still have a box full of shirts traded with other teams during HS powerlifting competitions.

Locker rooms, team meetings, or anything like that was off limits, but just catching up and hanging out in team spaces never was a big deal. Maybe that was different with rural schools vs urban.

The murderer didn't know the victim, whom supposedly (according to viewers of the district video) was the only other person under the tent at the time of the incident. Would you have walked over and sat with an opposing team's player, by yourself, not knowing the athlete?

And, would you have done so while concealing a knife on a school campus, in clear violation of law?

Your analogy is cute, but doesn't level up with what ACTUALLY happened.

Anybody that has been to a track meet knows exactly why someone would be under anothers teams canopy uninvited. Maybe things have change but 20 years ago the track athletes guarded the stuff during the field events and the field athletes guarded it during running events. The word guarded is used for a reason.
TheRatt87
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Fenrir said:

aggiehawg said:

The rest:
Quote:

The second teen was sitting right next to Karmelo. Austin's shoving of Karmelo wasn't even hard enough that Karmelo touched him when it happened. Second teen says stabbing happened so quickly that he didn't even realize it had happened and he was sitting right next to Karmelo
'I just remember being in shock and not really knowing where to go,' the second teen says once he realized what had happened.
Prosector: Did it seem like Austin was trying to pick a fight?
Second teen: no sir
Prosecutor: Did it seem like Karmelo wanted to pick a fight?
Second teen: yes sir



Btw, as someone without twitter...I really appreciate the people that copy and paste longer posts and responses.

I will take that under advisement for future posts. But I'm not going to copy & paste multiple updates, and want to stress that just reading this lady's afternoon posts from today is well worth your time. Witness testimony cutting thru all the speculation.
usmcbrooks
How long do you want to ignore this user?
agent-maroon said:

Im Gipper said:

To move to capital murder based on the murder happening during the commission or attempted commission of a felony, the felony has to be one of these: kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat

Thank you for the explanation

Speculation and hearsay are one in the same, right? So it is hearsay that he was caught going through the personal belongings in he tent he wasn't supposed to be in.

However, if he was committing burglary of said items that did not belong to him, that's going to be tough to prove, right?
Fenrir
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Just FYI, without a twitter account I don't believe it is possible to look through a person's recent posts. I can click on links to posts and see the top level well enough but any responses are not visible unless I make an account or they are linked to themselves.
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I know the great guilt we are to be indoctrinated with compels us to believe that strangers wondering into other teams' tents are angels probably sent to plant "good luck" stickers on other strangers' backpacks... but let's seriously consider why some might venture into other teams' tents when they think they're unguarded.
Bigballin
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sounds like premeditated murder. I hope they lock him up for the rest of his life
aggiehawg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Fenrir said:

Just FYI, without a twitter account I don't believe it is possible to look through a person's recent posts. I can click on links to posts and see the top level well enough but any responses are not visible unless I make an account or they are linked to themselves.

True. Could do that before Elon bought it but now that it is X, can't do that anymore.
usmcbrooks
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I know why he was there. Same reason my daughters iPhone and other belongings were stolen out of her bag at a High School sporting event several years ago from their teams tent. Phone was tracked to a student from a neighboring school and everything was recovered. I will leave the rest up to your imagination.

Marvin
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Fenrir said:

Just FYI, without a twitter account I don't believe it is possible to look through a person's recent posts. I can click on links to posts and see the top level well enough but any responses are not visible unless I make an account or they are linked to themselves.


Yep. It's certainly no one's obligation, but I also appreciate those of you who quote the posts.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Going through backpacks streaking things is not burglary or robbery. It's theft.

I'm Gipper
sam callahan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Is it okay that I don't care why he was in the tent, who he knew or didn't, what waiver he signed or didn't, whether he was suspended or not, whether he was competing or not, whether his school was there or not, whether it was raining or not?

All that seems a distraction.

He stabbed and killed a kid. End of story. Guilty unless somehow he can prove the other kid was armed and a threat to his life, which there is zero evidence of happening.

Fall92
How long do you want to ignore this user?
They are different. Generally speaking, speculation is when someone without personal knowledge opines on something (e.g., do you know why X did Y?). Hearsay is more akin to someone testifying or trying to get in a document that contains what someone else said (e.g., I heard X say Y). There are myriad exceptions to the hearsay rule which I won't get into and even double hearsay.
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be."
usmcbrooks
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Im Gipper said:

Going through backpacks streaking things is not burglary or robbery. It's theft.

Depends on the value of items taken, right? iPhone valued at let's say roughly 1200 dollars? 3 of those gets you hit with grand theft and a felony charge. And somebody already mentioned, carrying a weapon on school grounds is a 3rd degree felony in Texas.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
usmcbrooks said:

Im Gipper said:

Going through backpacks streaking things is not burglary or robbery. It's theft.

Depends on the value of items taken, right? iPhone valued at let's say roughly 1200 dollars? 3 of those gets you hit with grand theft and a felony charge. And somebody already mentioned, carrying a weapon on school grounds is a 3rd degree felony in Texas.



No. Regardless of the value of the item, taking something out of a backpack is never robbery or burglary.

Robbery is causing bodily injury or the threat of bodily injury during theft.

Burglary requires going to a house or
building.




I'm Gipper
usmcbrooks
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Unlawful taking is classified based on the monetary value of the stolen property, with felony-level theft generally applying to goods valued at $2,500 or more.
Im Gipper
How long do you want to ignore this user?
usmcbrooks said:

Unlawful taking is classified based on the monetary value of the stolen property, with felony-level theft generally applying to goods valued at $2,500 or more.



And?


The question being discussed is what is necessary to make this Capital Murder.


It does not matter if he took a bazillion dollars worth of iPads from the bag. It's still theft, and not a crime that can change this for murder to capital murder.

I'm Gipper
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.