usmcbrooks said:

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Im Gipper said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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I believe he did what he did as some sort of gang initiation.

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Based on?

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Life experience.

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Thug life!


Let's stick to evidence based discussion please.

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First defense witness in Karmelo Anthony murder trial is his former Centennial High School track coach

DEFENSE ATTORNEY MIKE HOWARD CALLS ADAM LINWOOD, FOOTBALL AND TRACK COACH AT CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL 
Defense: “How is track different from football?”
Witness: “It’s more of a…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 6, 2026

First defense witness in Karmelo Anthony murder trial is his former Centennial High School track coach

DEFENSE ATTORNEY MIKE HOWARD CALLS ADAM LINWOOD, FOOTBALL AND TRACK COACH AT CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL
Defense: "How is track different from football?"
Witness: "It's more of a player-driven sport."
Defense: "Is track more relaxed and leads to mingling than football?"
Witness: "Yes."
Defense: "Are you aware of any policy of players not being allowed to go into other team's tent areas?"
Centennial Coach Adam Linwood: "No. Kids would mingle and meet other people and make new friends."
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Defense: "Was the tent ready in your bus that day? The morning bus?"
Witness: "No."

Defense: "Melo needed to be there in the morning for his events?"
Witness: "Yes."
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Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
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Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I'm not following some of the questioning... Seems there's built in contradiction regarding the social aspect and tents. I've deleted the questions not relevant to my line of thinking....

So it's a more relaxed and social atmosphere that allows for a degree of mingling. This makes sense and is perfectly reasonable to a degree.
But... It should not happen that one of your athletes... So "Yes sir" it should not happen? Maybe I'm reading too much into a poorly worded (or poorly transcribed) question.

Either way... Yes Coach would expect someone to leave an area if asked. -- Not sure what that accomplishes for the Defense. "Yeah, I'd expect my athlete to leave an area if asked.
Prosecution can drive that one. So if asked to leave, stabbing is not something you coach your athletes to do?

Im Gipper said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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Im Gipper said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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I believe he did what he did as some sort of gang initiation.

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Based on?

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Life experience.

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Thug life!


Let's stick to evidence based discussion please.

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Yes sir thought police.

You're adding worthless, stupid conjecture. What in your right mind thinks this was gang initiation and it wasn't brought to light during investigation?

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The idea that street gangs design initiations to "get caught" is an urban legend. According to the National Gang Center and criminologists, initiations typically focus on internal rituals or evading arrest to maintain criminal operations. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Reality of Gang Initiations

• "Jumped In" or "Beaten In": The most common initiation, particularly for street gangs. Recruits endure a physical beating by multiple members for a set time limit (e.g., 30 to 60 seconds) to prove physical toughness. [1, 2, 3]
• "Putting in Work" (Committing Crimes): Recruits may be tasked with committing a low-level crimelike shoplifting, burglary, or vehicle theftwhere the goal is clearly to successfully complete the act without getting caught. [1, 2]
• Violence Toward Rivals: In some cases, initiates are required to assault a rival gang member. Again, the intent is to successfully execute the act and escape arrest, not to draw immediate law enforcement attention. [1]

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The reality of gang initiations

TLDR - it wasn't a gang initiation

It's just another angry young black man falling into the thug culture that a large portion of his community embraces. Possibly a psychopath given his plan and his reaction afterward, but it's hard to separate being a psychopath from their culture at this point

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Possibly a psychopath given his plan and his reaction afterward, but it's hard to separate being a psychopath from their culture at this point

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Not a psychopath, more of a sociopath. Has a lot of self sympathy, no empathy for others without a direct tie to them.

Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

The difference in those terms isn't official and mostly depends on who you ask. Either one falls under anti-social personality disorder which would be the official clinical description, which he largely fits the bill although so does a lot of black culture these days.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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Oh they will still feel sorry for the Karmellos of the world, but will pack up and move to Anna, Prosper or Melissa. White people been running since '66.

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oh no said:

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First defense witness in Karmelo Anthony murder trial is his former Centennial High School track coach

DEFENSE ATTORNEY MIKE HOWARD CALLS ADAM LINWOOD, FOOTBALL AND TRACK COACH AT CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL 
Defense: “How is track different from football?”
Witness: “It’s more of a…

— J.D. Miles (@jdmiles11) June 6, 2026

First defense witness in Karmelo Anthony murder trial is his former Centennial High School track coach

DEFENSE ATTORNEY MIKE HOWARD CALLS ADAM LINWOOD, FOOTBALL AND TRACK COACH AT CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL
Defense: "How is track different from football?"
Witness: "It's more of a player-driven sport."
Defense: "Is track more relaxed and leads to mingling than football?"
Witness: "Yes."
Defense: "Are you aware of any policy of players not being allowed to go into other team's tent areas?"
Centennial Coach Adam Linwood: "No. Kids would mingle and meet other people and make new friends."
...
Defense: "Was the tent ready in your bus that day? The morning bus?"
Witness: "No."

Defense: "Melo needed to be there in the morning for his events?"
Witness: "Yes."
...
Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
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Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I'm not following some of the questioning... Seems there's built in contradiction regarding the social aspect and tents. I've deleted the questions not relevant to my line of thinking....

So it's a more relaxed and social atmosphere that allows for a degree of mingling. This makes sense and is perfectly reasonable to a degree.
But... It should not happen that one of your athletes... So "Yes sir" it should not happen? Maybe I'm reading too much into a poorly worded (or poorly transcribed) question.

Either way... Yes Coach would expect someone to leave an area if asked. -- Not sure what that accomplishes for the Defense. "Yeah, I'd expect my athlete to leave an area if asked.
Prosecution can drive that one. So if asked to leave, stabbing is not something you coach your athletes to do?

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Read who is asking the last two questions, it'll clear up your confusion.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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(Disclaimer: I was not blessed with children of my own. Nor do I have nieces nor nephews as both of my siblings died without any children.)

Mothers are mothers first, usually. Losing a child is a tragedy. So I don't buy into the race aspect of that calculus.

Doh!
Thanks...

I was just thinking the same...
The white guilt liberal/moderate female might think differently for adult on adult crime as opposed to a child. Plenty of them can easily see their own kid on that athletic field. Heck even a lot of the lesbians absolutely spoil their nieces and nephews.

I mean it never stopped them from supporting all the trans for kids bull*****

I clicked on the link on page 1 to see how much has been raised and it says "Fundraiser not found."

So did they take it down because they raised so much or did no one give anything?

I think GoFundMe nixed it, but then they just raised money on some other platform

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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(Disclaimer: I was not blessed with children of my own. Nor do I have nieces nor nephews as both of my siblings died without any children.)

Mothers are mothers first, usually. Losing a child is a tragedy. So I don't buy into the race aspect of that calculus.

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Well.... This murderers mom spent 600k+ on useless **** and gave her kid a public defender attorney. Apparently hes only good for drawing donation money from idiots or tv news crews to spout the typical black talking points again and again that ol'whitey is out to get them. Liberal white women sacrifice their kids for their own publicity every day, so the moms will be moms doesn't fly. Just look at all the trannny kids and even babies that they are sure want to be mutilated already while in their care.

It's not a court-appointed attorney. Mike Howard and Toby Shook are his attorneys.

FatZilla said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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(Disclaimer: I was not blessed with children of my own. Nor do I have nieces nor nephews as both of my siblings died without any children.)

Mothers are mothers first, usually. Losing a child is a tragedy. So I don't buy into the race aspect of that calculus.

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Well.... This murderers mom spent 600k+ on useless **** and gave her kid a court appointed attorney. Apparently hes only good for drawing donation money from idiots or tv news crews to spout the typical black talking points again and again that ol'whitey is out to get them. Liberal white women sacrifice their kids for their own publicity every day, so the moms will be moms doesn't fly. Just look at all the trannny kids and even babies that they are sure want to be mutilated already while in their care.

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And those examples are lacking in maternal instincts. That happens. Same as men lacking any paternal instincts. Zero protective qualities, zero sense of responsibility.

Did you have a point?

FatZilla said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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(Disclaimer: I was not blessed with children of my own. Nor do I have nieces nor nephews as both of my siblings died without any children.)

Mothers are mothers first, usually. Losing a child is a tragedy. So I don't buy into the race aspect of that calculus.

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Well.... This murderers mom spent 600k+ on useless **** and gave her kid a court appointed attorney. Apparently hes only good for drawing donation money from idiots or tv news crews to spout the typical black talking points again and again that ol'whitey is out to get them. Liberal white women sacrifice their kids for their own publicity every day, so the moms will be moms doesn't fly. Just look at all the trannny kids and even babies that they are sure want to be mutilated already while in their care.

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If I were a betting man, I'd wager his mom, most of his family, close and extended, are the same sort of trash the murderer is. Likely have an entitlement attitude and are not particularly bright.

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It's not a court-appointed attorney. Mike Howard and Toby Shook are his attorneys.

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They filed for a public defender due to not having funds left I thought?

I think you can use your own attorney they just get paid by the court at indignant rate

Teslag said:

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I think you can use your own attorney they just get paid by the court at indignant rate

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That is not correct in any jurisdiction I know of.

FatZilla said:

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Well.... This murderers mom spent 600k+ on useless **** and gave her kid a court appointed attorney. Apparently hes only good for drawing donation money from idiots or tv news crews to spout the typical black talking points again and again that ol'whitey is out to get them.

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she's a hero and a trailblazer- paving the way and teaching others you can get money just for teaching your kids to do something they all want to do anyway. Prepare for more big lottery winning payouts anytime someone kills a whitey.

Teslag said:

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I think you can use your own attorney they just get paid by the court at indignant rate

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No.

Unless a death penalty case, in which the government pays for an extraordinary amount for that team.

Which does not mean they can negotiate an hourly rate for an outside attorney to step into the role as a Public Defender.

He gets business as a result.

Well "Bottom Line" is none of my money has EVER gone to a "Go Fund Me!"
Last, I've read is that those $$ are rated by the IRS "Taxable Income!"

Moon Shadow said:

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Well "Bottom Line" is none of my money has EVER gone to a "Go Fund Me!"
Last, I've read is that those $$ are rated by the IRS "Taxable Income!"

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I believe it depends on the circumstances. Here, likely considered a gift.

FatZilla said:

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A Net Full of Jello said:

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It's not a court-appointed attorney. Mike Howard and Toby Shook are his attorneys.

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They filed for a public defender due to not having funds left I thought?

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I'm pretty sure that was another lie but am willing to be wrong. I know they aren't public defenders but whether or not the public is/can be forced to pay for them, I do not know.

His attorneys are actually pretty good. In fact, interestingly enough, Mike Howard and Bill Worsky prosecuted a death penalty case together.
https://www.mikehowardlaw.com/about/mike-howard/

https://directory.dmagazine.com/lawyers/toby-l-shook/

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the killer is so low iq that he thought a 5" blade into the chest was just going to leave scratch. Not a good murder defense

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Is this true ? Holy mother of no brain Batman

FatZilla said:

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A Net Full of Jello said:

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It's not a court-appointed attorney. Mike Howard and Toby Shook are his attorneys.

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They filed for a public defender due to not having funds left I thought?

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The crowdsourcing money raised was not considered in determining whether he was indigent.

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FatZilla said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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Gaeilge said:

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They'll need to tread carefully or they'll piss off the moderate suburban wife vote.

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I wonder how many white liberal soccer moms are willing to sacrifice for the cause, a popular All American boy and (likely) successful member of society - who could have easily been THEIR son. This will be a struggle for many of these gals I'd assume.

Poor black victim vs one of their own. In a right world, they would ponder their role in all of this.

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(Disclaimer: I was not blessed with children of my own. Nor do I have nieces nor nephews as both of my siblings died without any children.)

Mothers are mothers first, usually. Losing a child is a tragedy. So I don't buy into the race aspect of that calculus.

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Well.... This murderers mom spent 600k+ on useless **** and gave her kid a court appointed attorney. Apparently hes only good for drawing donation money from idiots or tv news crews to spout the typical black talking points again and again that ol'whitey is out to get them. Liberal white women sacrifice their kids for their own publicity every day, so the moms will be moms doesn't fly. Just look at all the trannny kids and even babies that they are sure want to be mutilated already while in their care.

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If I were a betting man, I'd wager his mom, most of his family, close and extended, are the same sort of trash the murderer is. Likely have an entitlement attitude and are not particularly bright.

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Where do you think he learned it from?

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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I think you can use your own attorney they just get paid by the court at indignant rate

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No.

Unless a death penalty case, in which the government pays for an extraordinary amount for that team.

Which does not mean they can negotiate an hourly rate for an outside attorney to step into the role as a Public Defender.

He gets business as a result.

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What does being declared indigent mean?

Not having money to pay for for your own represention. It was initially filed but then later got their own attorneys. The ones representing him now are not public defenders.

Even one of the defense's witnesses today when cross examined said he thought KA was in the wrong