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In reply to fc2112 • 6:02p, 6/3/26
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The Next Generation Action Network is outraged by today's jury selection process in the Karmelo Anthony trial. The prosecution used its final strikes to remove the remaining qualified Black jurors from the jury pool, raising serious concerns about fairness and equal justice.

We respect the court, but we will not remain silent. NGAN will continue monitoring this case and informing the public every step of the way. Every person deserves a fair trial and confidence that justice is being administered without bias.

We are calling on the court to ensure Mr. Anthony's constitutional rights are fully protected.


what qualified them?
skin color?
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In reply to pressitup • 6:10p, 6/3/26
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what qualified them?
skin color?

They had not be struck for cause by the court. That "qualified" them before both sides can use their peremptory challenges. Those can be nominally for any cause but not for racial reasons.

Reversible error? Helluva a question there. No idea.

These news blackouts just create much more angst and speculation than a transparent process can more easily answer.
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6:16p, 6/3/26
Said on WFAA that the 3 black prospective jurors were struck by the prosecution because they were educators.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:16p, 6/3/26
aggiehawg said:
Im Gipper said:
Let me reiterate what I said a few pages back:

I can close to guarantee you "beyond a reasonable doubt" a conviction here will never ever be thrown out because there were not black people on the jury.

How do you know that? .


Hundreds of voir dire conducted and knowing the standard on appeal is "clear error" by the trial court.

It's an extremely high burden and from what I've heard about these prosecutors and this judge, there won't be that type of error.

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In reply to fc2112 • 6:17p, 6/3/26
fc2112 said:


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The Next Generation Action Network is outraged by today's jury selection process in the Karmelo Anthony trial. The prosecution used its final strikes to remove the remaining qualified Black jurors from the jury pool, raising serious concerns about fairness and equal justice.

We respect the court, but we will not remain silent. NGAN will continue monitoring this case and informing the public every step of the way. Every person deserves a fair trial and confidence that justice is being administered without bias.

We are calling on the court to ensure Mr. Anthony's constitutional rights are fully protected.


Fairness and equal justice runs both ways, though they only want it to apply to the black killer. You can bet if I was on the prosecution side, all my strikes would have been used to remove black potential jurors. If I had been on the defense side, I would not have wanted to use my strikes on black potential jurors. There is no racism in either. Blacks are more likely to look the other way when another black person does something, particularly to a white victim. Why take the chance of one on the jury (if you are a member of the prosecution team)?
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In reply to pressitup • 6:17p, 6/3/26
pressitup said:
fc2112 said:


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The Next Generation Action Network is outraged by today's jury selection process in the Karmelo Anthony trial. The prosecution used its final strikes to remove the remaining qualified Black jurors from the jury pool, raising serious concerns about fairness and equal justice.

We respect the court, but we will not remain silent. NGAN will continue monitoring this case and informing the public every step of the way. Every person deserves a fair trial and confidence that justice is being administered without bias.

We are calling on the court to ensure Mr. Anthony's constitutional rights are fully protected.


what qualified them?
skin color?

That is the only qualification for groups like NGAN.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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6:18p, 6/3/26
In a nation where only 12% of the population is black, why is it totally unreasonable that a pool of 250 narrowed down to 12 might not include a black person?
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:20p, 6/3/26
Im Gipper said:
aggiehawg said:
Im Gipper said:
Let me reiterate what I said a few pages back:

I can close to guarantee you "beyond a reasonable doubt" a conviction here will never ever be thrown out because there were not black people on the jury.

How do you know that? .


Hundreds of voir dire conducted and knowing the standard on appeal is "clear error" by the trial court.

It's an extremely high burden and from what I've heard about these prosecutors and this judge, there won't be that type of error.

That would normally be enough but after what I have seen when the riots start (which they will) appellate courts suddenly get skittish.

Hope to be wrong about those concerns.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:21p, 6/3/26
aggiehawg said:
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what qualified them?
skin color?

They had not be struck for cause by the court. That "qualified" them before both sides can use their peremptory challenges. Those can be nominally for any cause but not for racial reasons.

Reversible error? Helluva a question there. No idea.

These news blackouts just create much more angst and speculation than a transparent process can more easily answer.

thank you, I'm ignorant to the workings of the court. "qualified " seemed an interesting term.
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In reply to oh no • 6:23p, 6/3/26
oh no said:
In a nation where only 12% of the population is black, why is it totally unreasonable that a pool of 250 narrowed down to 12 might not include a black person?


Collin is 9% African American. I guess statistically they could argue there should be one juror from that demographic but they sure shouldn't be a cause for appeal.

They did those three potential jurors a favor though. There's going to be enough video evidence presented to remove all doubt of his guilt. They won't have to deal with those in their community being up their ass about convicting.
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7:03p, 6/3/26
Anthony's attorney going forward will refer to him as Mello.

Talked about constitutional carry and stand your ground.

Evidently didn't mention you can't carry on school property.

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In reply to Gator92 • 7:12p, 6/3/26
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect.
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7:16p, 6/3/26
Constitutional Carry…of a knife? At a school event? By a juvenile?

And how is he gonna argue Stand Your Ground when he was in another team's tent???
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In reply to Ex Ex Officio Director • 7:19p, 6/3/26
Ex Ex Officio Director said:
Constitutional Carry…of a knife? At a school event? By a juvenile?

And how is he gonna argue Stand Your Ground when he was in another team's tent???

We will found that question out tomorrow.
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In reply to Gator92 • 7:26p, 6/3/26
Gator92 said:
Anthony's attorney going forward will refer to him as Mello.

Talked about constitutional carry and stand your ground.

Evidently didn't mention you can't carry on school property.

His attorney sounds like a moron.

Constitutional Carry is irrelevant, even if it was legal to have the knife on him, which is wasn't.

Stand Your Ground is not a blank check for the use of lethal force. It has to be in response to an action which can or will result in serious injury or death.

I cannot shoot someone because he grabbed my arm, shoved me, or even if he punched me in my upper arm. None of that puts me in any risk of harm.

Now, if he pushed me down and started stomping on my head, neck, or spine, then lethal force would be justified and would be covered under stand your ground. If all he did was push me down and kick my leg once before walking away, then nope. If Austin was doing any of those things to Anthony, then an argument could be made for the use of deadly force.

Both Austin and Anthony were likely of similar strength and size so even if they were trading punches, that still wouldn't justify lethal force. If Anthony was Ellen Paige size and Austin was punching him endlessly, then again, an argument could be made for the use of deadly force.

This is going to a case of "can't win on the facts, confuse them with bull*****"
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In reply to Rapier108 • 7:35p, 6/3/26
To your point:

In voir dire, the defense lawyers kept pushing about "having a right to be somewhere". (Properly objected to and sustained)

They are clearly trying to confuse the issues. It's their only shot!

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7:37p, 6/3/26
The defense attorney's job is to create any amount of doubt they can and as they should. Here's to hoping it doesn't work but I find it funny how angry people get at the defense attorney and then they'd want the exact same thing if they were accused.
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In reply to Bull Meachem • 7:39p, 6/3/26
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The defense attorney's job is to create any amount of doubt they can and as they should. Here's to hoping it doesn't work but I find it funny how angry people get at the defense attorney and then they'd want the exact same thing if they were accused.

So you're okay with getting a murderer off by lying to the jury about what the law actually says?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to Rapier108 • 7:52p, 6/3/26
Rapier108 said:
Bull Meachem said:
The defense attorney's job is to create any amount of doubt they can and as they should. Here's to hoping it doesn't work but I find it funny how angry people get at the defense attorney and then they'd want the exact same thing if they were accused.

So you're okay with getting a murderer off by lying to the jury about what the law actually says?

I'm never okay with a murderer going free. Ask harder questions.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:01p, 6/3/26
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His attorney sounds like a moron.

This has given me more hope for justice than anything I've read on this thread since jury selection began.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 8:20p, 6/3/26
Rapier108 said:
Bull Meachem said:
The defense attorney's job is to create any amount of doubt they can and as they should. Here's to hoping it doesn't work but I find it funny how angry people get at the defense attorney and then they'd want the exact same thing if they were accused.

So you're okay with getting a murderer off by lying to the jury about what the law actually says?

They said nothing about what they're okay or not okay with, they're merely pointing out the defense attorney is doing their job.

"Affluenza" is complete horse**** and made up, but the defense attorney who made it up did his job by getting the jury to believe it, and getting his client off.
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8:29p, 6/3/26
Guess he shoulda committed the crime in a predominantly black area.
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In reply to MsDoubleD81 • 8:33p, 6/3/26
MsDoubleD81 said:
Guess he shoulda committed the crime in a predominantly black area.

It's all about location location location. If I'm going to to commit a crime, I'll pick the liberalist county. If I use a firearm to defend myself or wife, hopefully I'm in a red county.
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In reply to 5Amp • 8:47p, 6/3/26
5Amp said:
The Ex Officio Director said:
MsDoubleD81 said:
Guess he shoulda committed the crime in a predominantly black area.

It's all about location location location. If I'm going to to commit a crime, I'll pick the liberalist county. If I use a firearm to defend myself or wife, hopefully I'm in a red county.

Most whites no better to hang out in a predominantly black area.

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In reply to MsDoubleD81 • 8:49p, 6/3/26
MsDoubleD81 said:
Said on WFAA that the 3 black prospective jurors were struck by the prosecution because they were educators.

If this is true it will pass muster on appeal. Educators are notoriously sympathetic and are regularly struck by prosecutors (and by employment law defense lawyers). All you need is a plausible, race-neutral reason, and that's a good one.
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In reply to HtownAg92 • 8:58p, 6/3/26
HtownAg92 said:
MsDoubleD81 said:
Said on WFAA that the 3 black prospective jurors were struck by the prosecution because they were educators.

If this is true it will pass muster on appeal. Educators are notoriously sympathetic and are regularly struck by prosecutors (and by employment law defense lawyers). All you need is a plausible, race-neutral reason, and that's a good one.

I was on a jury once in a child molestation case. We're 11-1 ready to convict, lone holdout is an educator who lied to the judge during voir dire. Her reasoning for wanting to vote not guilty was the victim was a little girl, and little girls lie. She had a friend who was an educator who had been falsely accused, and that was the reason for her hangup.

Even the defense attorney knew his client was guilty, he told me we wouldn't lose any sleep over that conviction.
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In reply to oh no • 8:58p, 6/3/26
oh no said:
In a nation where only 12% of the population is black, why is it totally unreasonable that a pool of 250 narrowed down to 12 might not include a black person?

The last three times I got a jury summons, several people were excused due to what I felt was nonsense. Two of the three times, it was the same judge. He would ask if anyone would have a hard time attending court if they were on the jury, would it cause a hardship on them or their family. On the three occasions, probably 35 or 40 were excused. For those who indicated it would be a hardship, he all but put words in their mouths so that there would be "justification" for them to be excused. Things like couldn't get a ride, lived far from the courthouse, those sorts of things. Of the 35 or 40, I would guess 90% were black, 10% were Hispanic. I do not remember a single white person in that group.

The last time I was called, I was sitting in front and didn't turn around to look, but I was wondering after so many were excused if there was going to be enough people left to be able to sit a jury. But in hearing the interchange between the judge and the potential juror, almost all of them were very poor in their ability to communicate with the judge and answer his questions, or were extremely shy, or both. Probably best they were not on the jury all in all.
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In reply to fc2112 • 9:02p, 6/3/26
fc2112 said:

You know what raises questions about fairness and equal justice? Murdering an unarmed school kid in cold blood because he told you to leave somewhere you should never have been. Thug life.
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In reply to Backyard Gator • 9:06p, 6/3/26
Backyard Gator said:
5Amp said:
The Ex Officio Director said:
MsDoubleD81 said:
Guess he shoulda committed the crime in a predominantly black area.

It's all about location location location. If I'm going to to commit a crime, I'll pick the liberalist county. If I use a firearm to defend myself or wife, hopefully I'm in a red county.

Most whites know better than to hang out in a predominantly black area.



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9:07p, 6/3/26
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His final question surrounded juror's thoughts on "current immigration policy", with half of the jurors declining to respond, citing their confusion as to how the question was relevant to the case.

Jurors smarter than the attorney and see through the BS. The "relevance" to the question is to find radical liberal, anti-establishment, anti-government / DA loonies and get them on the jury.
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In reply to Ex Ex Officio Director • 9:08p, 6/3/26
Ex Ex Officio Director said:
Constitutional Carry…of a knife? At a school event? By a juvenile?

And how is he gonna argue Stand Your Ground when he was in another team's tent???
Just muddying the water.

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9:11p, 6/3/26

Skip to the 1:30 mark where it's discussed about the 3 jurors.

https://www.wfaa.com/video/news/local/collin-county/after-the-trial-day-2-jury-has-been-selected-opening-statements-expected-to-begin-thursday/287-997fc07d-a33f-4206-9a3f-1b46546ea8a5
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In reply to Ex Ex Officio Director • 9:20p, 6/3/26
Ex Ex Officio Director said:
And how is he gonna argue Stand Your Ground when he was in another team's tent???

The tent was in the stands of a facility that is open to the public; it's not private property. Legally speaking, he had a right to be where he was.

The question is whether the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not reasonably in fear of physical harm to an extent that would justify lethal force. I suspect that they can, but "he was in their tent" is not a meaningful issue here.
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In reply to normalhorn • 9:28p, 6/3/26
normalhorn said:
Jury tampering, public intimidation….no wonder it's already proving to be a tall task to seat a jury in this case.


I live so close to this it's crazy to know this is going to turn into an all out national race pimp war over a dip**** black thug who flat out murdered a white kid.
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