Democrat early voting in 2024 vs 2020: up 34%
Republican early voting in 2024 vs 2020: up 95%
Independent early voting 2024 vs 2020: up 112% (but only 12% total of 2024 early votes)
I am watching black turnout closely in OH. The three biggest black counties are in the top eight worst performing counties in OH right now. This seems to match up with PA data from @PatrickRuffini from this weekend. Pay very close attention to this.
— MVRed Podcast (@MVRedPodcast) November 4, 2024
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PA Statewide Returns 2020
— Christian Heiens ๐ (@ChristianHeiens) November 4, 2024
๐ต Dems: 1,400,911 (74.74%)
๐ด GOP: 473,562 (25.26%)
D+49.48
PA Statewide Returns 2024
๐ต Dems: 997,450 (62.93%)
๐ด GOP: 587,546 (37.07%)
D+25.86 https://t.co/MhzcVB6MaE
AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH EVING
— John Couvillon (@WinWithJMC) November 4, 2024
So far today: 78.7M voted, 36-34% D/R
11/2/2020: 100.6M voted, 44-34% D/R
I figure 2-3M more EVs today will be posted.
2020 was an outlier due to two main reasons: the tremendous amount of MIB's and people afraid to stand close to each other in long lines. That drove a lot of the early voting tallies.SpreadsheetAg said:
Question:
Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?
I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?
Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
SwigAg11 said:I thought I had seen that Dems had broken through to +400,000? Did a bunch of R returns come in to bring it back down?will25u said:Early voting in Pennsylvania 2 days out. 2020 vs 2024
— David D. Chapman (@davidchapman141) November 4, 2024
2020
๐ฆ 1,587,654 (+1,040,038)
๐ฅ 547,616
2024
๐ฆ 893,998 (+372,799)
๐ฅ 521,199
GOP are at their 2020 level turnout. Dem turnout is way down. The firewall is gone.
this has been discussed many times on here. Short answer - Republicans are turning out more 0 an 1 voters (low propensity). Democrats are not day of voters, so for them to not be matching their numbers from previous elections, while Republicans are - is concerning for Dems.SpreadsheetAg said:
Question:
Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?
I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?
Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
If this is true, Reps are down, but Dems are down HUGE across the board. His numbers are really rounded, but here are his numbers in votes...nortex97 said:AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH EVING
— John Couvillon (@WinWithJMC) November 4, 2024
So far today: 78.7M voted, 36-34% D/R
11/2/2020: 100.6M voted, 44-34% D/R
I figure 2-3M more EVs today will be posted.
So Dems need to make up 8.5 million votes on ED in order to recreate 2020. That's a LOT of votes to make up for a party that traditionally doesn't vote as much as Republicans on election day.will25u said:If this is true, Reps are down, but Dems are down HUGE across the board. His numbers are really rounded, but here are his numbers in votes...nortex97 said:AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH EVING
— John Couvillon (@WinWithJMC) November 4, 2024
So far today: 78.7M voted, 36-34% D/R
11/2/2020: 100.6M voted, 44-34% D/R
I figure 2-3M more EVs today will be posted.
Rep(34%) -7.446mm Total: 26.758mm
Dem(36%) -15.932mm Total 28.332mm
Ind(30%) +1.478mm Total: 23.610mm
Arizona Early Vote Update:
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) November 4, 2024
๐ด 954k (+196k)
๐ต 758k
๐ก 625k
Total: 2.3M
jr15aggie said:
I can't confirm this number, but I've heard a couple sources say that (across the board) their estimates are that Dem turnout is currently around 20% down from 2020. Not official, just the round number they are throwing around.
Well, 80% of 81 million votes is just under 65 million votes. Which is EXACTLY where I figured Kamala would be (slightly under the votes Hillary and Obama received in '12 and '16).
yeah but LADY GAGA is going to be at the final KAMALA rally in downtown Philadelphia tomorrowaggiehawg said:
Of particular note, Dem EV is down in the population centers of Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Vegas and Phoenix. Those cites can and do more often than not determine their respective states.
Dems have very good reasons to be concerned about that.
Something else to realize also is that a voter who has voted in the last 4 elections is much more likely to eventually vote and is very easy to convince to go to the polls. A voter who has voted in 0 or 1 of the last 4 elections takes significantly more effort (phone calls, texts, door knocking, transportation, etc.) to get to the polls.Prosperdick said:2020 was an outlier due to two main reasons: the tremendous amount of MIB's and people afraid to stand close to each other in long lines. That drove a lot of the early voting tallies.SpreadsheetAg said:
Question:
Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?
I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?
Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
R's are matching those tallies with a lot of low propensity voters and those who have never voted before so it means the R's who normally vote on ED are still voting on ED but Dems are underperforming by a LOT and the ones who ARE voting early are more high propensity voters so they are more likely cannibalizing the vote than Republicans.
Also, to your last point, with millions of fewer MIB's means fewer ballots to harvest. If R's have a huge lead tomorrow night there aren't as many ballots left to chase.
Gun to my head.
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This race is close but Iโm predicting Donald Trump wins the Electoral College โ and possibly the popular vote
— The Reckoning ๐ฅ (@sethjlevy) November 4, 2024
By Henry Olsen
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There is supposed to be another drop in the next hour or so and then I will plug in the Arizona numbers!will25u said:Arizona Early Vote Update:
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) November 4, 2024
๐ด 954k (+196k)
๐ต 758k
๐ก 625k
Total: 2.3M
I have seen no sign that those low propensity voters are even on Plouffe's radar, which is weird to me. He's supposed to be the data guru on a very granular level.Quote:
So IF they are going to try to get the increase in turnout to happen on election day that they need, the Ds are going to have to do it by getting a large number of 0s and 1s to go to the polls and wait in line to vote. I have seen no sign of the Ds having the kind of ground game this cycle that would be necessary to make that happen.
Per Trump campaign, how they are viewing the data so far:
— Meridith McGraw (@meridithmcgraw) November 4, 2024
-Harris in โreal troubleโ with male voters
-Trump performing โhistorically wellโ with Black voters
-Rural turnout is โthrough the roofโ
aginlakeway said:
I want to compliment the TexAgs posters that have done an AMAZING job keeping us informed throughout the life of this thread.
AWESOME job!!!
Realistically, it isn't just any one thing. There are a lot of dems that hoped Biden would step down and they would get a chance to nominate somebody else democratically. There are a lot of dems turned off by Kamala's record as a prosecutor because it seems to have been built on jailing AA for petty drug crimes. There is a not insignificant portion of the AA community for whom Kamala is just not "black enough", and her constant reminders of growing up middle class are not endearing her to that demographic.aggiehawg said:I have seen no sign that those low propensity voters are even on Plouffe's radar, which is weird to me. He's supposed to be the data guru on a very granular level.Quote:
So IF they are going to try to get the increase in turnout to happen on election day that they need, the Ds are going to have to do it by getting a large number of 0s and 1s to go to the polls and wait in line to vote. I have seen no sign of the Ds having the kind of ground game this cycle that would be necessary to make that happen.
Has Plouffe lost his touch? Or is Kamala just that bad of a candidate they can the low propensity voters to support her?
If Taylor Swift can't boost Kamala's numbers, Lady Gaga certainly will not.LMCane said:yeah but LADY GAGA is going to be at the final KAMALA rally in downtown Philadelphia tomorrowaggiehawg said:
Of particular note, Dem EV is down in the population centers of Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Vegas and Phoenix. Those cites can and do more often than not determine their respective states.
Dems have very good reasons to be concerned about that.
You know what's absolutely devastating here for Democrats?
— Callum ๐โธโธ (@LewisCallum) November 4, 2024
Republicans are running 4% better in early voting than in 2022, when Rubio won by 16% and DeSantis won by 20%โผ๏ธ
In 2020 it was D+1.7
In 2022 it was R+6
Now it's R+10.3 ๐๐จโผ๏ธ
I agree with this assessment. Sure, there are a lot of folks with never-ending TDS. But I'll bet he's peeled off at least 10% of the folks that voted D last time and are walking away.Prosperdick said:So Dems lead is just over 400,000 whereas it was over a million in 2020. This also will be interesting to track:tallgrant said:
No idea where that David Chapman guy got his numbers, but they're at least a week old. PA's official number today had 997,450 Dem returned ballots vs 587,546 Republican.Pretty much every poll shows that there are far more Biden 2020 voters voting for Trump juxtaposed to Trump 2020 voters voting for Harris.
— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) November 4, 2024
The Trump 2020 to Harris 2020 voter in the last NYT Poll was < 2%. The Biden 2020 to Trump 2020 voter was 5%, identical to @BIGDATAPOLL. https://t.co/h1dLpIfXRi
IOWA IS RED.Captn_Ag05 said:
Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.
Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.
Captn_Ag05 said:
Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.
Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.
Agreed.dreyOO said:I agree with this assessment. Sure, there are a lot of folks with never-ending TDS. But I'll bet he's peeled off at least 10% of the folks that voted D last time and are walking away.Prosperdick said:So Dems lead is just over 400,000 whereas it was over a million in 2020. This also will be interesting to track:tallgrant said:
No idea where that David Chapman guy got his numbers, but they're at least a week old. PA's official number today had 997,450 Dem returned ballots vs 587,546 Republican.Pretty much every poll shows that there are far more Biden 2020 voters voting for Trump juxtaposed to Trump 2020 voters voting for Harris.
— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) November 4, 2024
The Trump 2020 to Harris 2020 voter in the last NYT Poll was < 2%. The Biden 2020 to Trump 2020 voter was 5%, identical to @BIGDATAPOLL. https://t.co/h1dLpIfXRi
Captn_Ag05 said:
Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.
Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.
boulderaggie said:
Agreed. Well done, trackers