***Official Early Vote Tracking***

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Of course Oklahoma is red and it's not an indicator for battleground states, but it might offer clues to red state margins helping the popular vote.

Democrat early voting in 2024 vs 2020: up 34%

Republican early voting in 2024 vs 2020: up 95%

Independent early voting 2024 vs 2020: up 112% (but only 12% total of 2024 early votes)
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Black turnout in Ohio is quite interesting:


PA:


Gonna cruise past 80MM today with R share vastly improved:
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Question:

Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?

I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?

Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
2020 was an outlier due to two main reasons: the tremendous amount of MIB's and people afraid to stand close to each other in long lines. That drove a lot of the early voting tallies.

R's are matching those tallies with a lot of low propensity voters and those who have never voted before so it means the R's who normally vote on ED are still voting on ED but Dems are underperforming by a LOT and the ones who ARE voting early are more high propensity voters so they are more likely cannibalizing the vote than Republicans.

Also, to your last point, with millions of fewer MIB's means fewer ballots to harvest. If R's have a huge lead tomorrow night there aren't as many ballots left to chase.
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SwigAg11 said:

will25u said:


I thought I had seen that Dems had broken through to +400,000? Did a bunch of R returns come in to bring it back down?


I saw that as the guesstimate of what it was going to be. Which means it looks like we are in an even better spot right now.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Question:

Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?

I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?

Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
this has been discussed many times on here. Short answer - Republicans are turning out more 0 an 1 voters (low propensity). Democrats are not day of voters, so for them to not be matching their numbers from previous elections, while Republicans are - is concerning for Dems.
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Your points reminded me on the absurdity of PA refusing to canvas their EV ballots until ED.
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The thing that I keep going back to is the EV data shows Republicans turnout is close to their 2020 numbers.... you know, the one where Trump got 74 MILLION votes.

The Dems are WAY off the pace of their "81 Million" 2020 votes. In 2012 and 2016 Obama and Hillary pulled identical votes totals... 65 million (Obama got 69 million in '08).

The early numbers to seem to imply that Kamala and the Dems will come back down to earth and vote at their pre-Covid numbers. If the Trump supporters do anything close to 2020 numbers it's not just an EV blowout, it's a substantial popular vote victory as well.

But obviously it's going to be a long 48 hours so we'll see.
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nortex97 said:


If this is true, Reps are down, but Dems are down HUGE across the board. His numbers are really rounded, but here are his numbers in votes...

Rep(34%) -7.446mm Total: 26.758mm
Dem(36%) -15.932mm Total 28.332mm
Ind(30%) +1.478mm Total: 23.610mm

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will25u said:

nortex97 said:


If this is true, Reps are down, but Dems are down HUGE across the board. His numbers are really rounded, but here are his numbers in votes...

Rep(34%) -7.446mm Total: 26.758mm
Dem(36%) -15.932mm Total 28.332mm
Ind(30%) +1.478mm Total: 23.610mm


So Dems need to make up 8.5 million votes on ED in order to recreate 2020. That's a LOT of votes to make up for a party that traditionally doesn't vote as much as Republicans on election day.
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I want to compliment the TexAgs posters that have done an AMAZING job keeping us informed throughout the life of this thread.

AWESOME job!!!
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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Of particular note, Dem EV is down in the population centers of Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Vegas and Phoenix. Those cites can and do more often than not determine their respective states.

Dems have very good reasons to be concerned about that.
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I can't confirm this number, but I've heard a couple sources say that (across the board) their estimates are that Dem turnout is currently around 20% down from 2020. Not official, just the round number they are throwing around.

Well, 80% of 81 million votes is just under 65 million votes. Which is EXACTLY where I figured Kamala would be (slightly under the votes Hillary and Obama received in '12 and '16).
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jr15aggie said:

I can't confirm this number, but I've heard a couple sources say that (across the board) their estimates are that Dem turnout is currently around 20% down from 2020. Not official, just the round number they are throwing around.

Well, 80% of 81 million votes is just under 65 million votes. Which is EXACTLY where I figured Kamala would be (slightly under the votes Hillary and Obama received in '12 and '16).


If this is right I'll buy you some cookies from Tiff Treats when the counting is all said and done.
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aggiehawg said:

Of particular note, Dem EV is down in the population centers of Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Vegas and Phoenix. Those cites can and do more often than not determine their respective states.

Dems have very good reasons to be concerned about that.
yeah but LADY GAGA is going to be at the final KAMALA rally in downtown Philadelphia tomorrow
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Prosperdick said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

Question:

Aren't early votes just transferring the date that a voter submits from Day-of to Earlier? So the net gain is technically Zero?

I understand that this shows eagerness and velocity of the parties (i.e. enthusiasm), and that's encouraging for the GOP / Trump in terms of where this was at versus 2020. But unless this also translates to MORE votes for the GOP... how is the data that helpful?

Also, does early voting also not give fraudsters (if you believe they exist) more data to know how much to cheat by earlier in the process?
2020 was an outlier due to two main reasons: the tremendous amount of MIB's and people afraid to stand close to each other in long lines. That drove a lot of the early voting tallies.

R's are matching those tallies with a lot of low propensity voters and those who have never voted before so it means the R's who normally vote on ED are still voting on ED but Dems are underperforming by a LOT and the ones who ARE voting early are more high propensity voters so they are more likely cannibalizing the vote than Republicans.

Also, to your last point, with millions of fewer MIB's means fewer ballots to harvest. If R's have a huge lead tomorrow night there aren't as many ballots left to chase.
Something else to realize also is that a voter who has voted in the last 4 elections is much more likely to eventually vote and is very easy to convince to go to the polls. A voter who has voted in 0 or 1 of the last 4 elections takes significantly more effort (phone calls, texts, door knocking, transportation, etc.) to get to the polls.

The Rs (through the efforts of guys like Scott Presler in PA and Turning Point USA in AZ) have gotten a lot of 0 and 1 voters to vote early via mail in or in person EV and have a lot of 3s and 4s who have not yet voted. The Ds have seen fewer 0s and 1s and their EV numbers took up more of their 3s and 4s. So IF they are going to try to get the increase in turnout to happen on election day that they need, the Ds are going to have to do it by getting a large number of 0s and 1s to go to the polls and wait in line to vote. I have seen no sign of the Ds having the kind of ground game this cycle that would be necessary to make that happen.
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will25u said:


There is supposed to be another drop in the next hour or so and then I will plug in the Arizona numbers!
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Agreed. Well done, trackers
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Quote:

So IF they are going to try to get the increase in turnout to happen on election day that they need, the Ds are going to have to do it by getting a large number of 0s and 1s to go to the polls and wait in line to vote. I have seen no sign of the Ds having the kind of ground game this cycle that would be necessary to make that happen.
I have seen no sign that those low propensity voters are even on Plouffe's radar, which is weird to me. He's supposed to be the data guru on a very granular level.

Has Plouffe lost his touch? Or is Kamala just that bad of a candidate they can't get the low propensity voters to support her?
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Great post. And, isn't it really hard to get 0 or 1 type voters out at those kind of numbers when it appears enthusiasm is down for the dems??

I really hope all of this plays out.
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Good thread. In.
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Salt and all that....

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aginlakeway said:

I want to compliment the TexAgs posters that have done an AMAZING job keeping us informed throughout the life of this thread.

AWESOME job!!!


Agreed and seconded!!!
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aggiehawg said:

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So IF they are going to try to get the increase in turnout to happen on election day that they need, the Ds are going to have to do it by getting a large number of 0s and 1s to go to the polls and wait in line to vote. I have seen no sign of the Ds having the kind of ground game this cycle that would be necessary to make that happen.
I have seen no sign that those low propensity voters are even on Plouffe's radar, which is weird to me. He's supposed to be the data guru on a very granular level.

Has Plouffe lost his touch? Or is Kamala just that bad of a candidate they can the low propensity voters to support her?
Realistically, it isn't just any one thing. There are a lot of dems that hoped Biden would step down and they would get a chance to nominate somebody else democratically. There are a lot of dems turned off by Kamala's record as a prosecutor because it seems to have been built on jailing AA for petty drug crimes. There is a not insignificant portion of the AA community for whom Kamala is just not "black enough", and her constant reminders of growing up middle class are not endearing her to that demographic.

Add on top of all those reasons that she is just not very personable in interviews and picked a weirdo for a running mate that really hasn't added anything meaningful to the ticket, and it is a recipe for having an uninspired electorate. You could see the dems pivot from "joy" to "trump is hitler" and "russia russia russia" again in the last week or so once they realized their base was not energized and not turning out, but at least based on the EV data, it does not appear that they were successful.
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LMCane said:

aggiehawg said:

Of particular note, Dem EV is down in the population centers of Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Philly, Vegas and Phoenix. Those cites can and do more often than not determine their respective states.

Dems have very good reasons to be concerned about that.
yeah but LADY GAGA is going to be at the final KAMALA rally in downtown Philadelphia tomorrow
If Taylor Swift can't boost Kamala's numbers, Lady Gaga certainly will not.
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I will be working with @earlyvotedata tomorrow on the spreadsheet I posted a few days ago. I'll post it again tomorrow if you want to follow along with what he thinks will be the bellwether counties in different swing states.

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Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.

Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.
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Prosperdick said:

tallgrant said:

No idea where that David Chapman guy got his numbers, but they're at least a week old. PA's official number today had 997,450 Dem returned ballots vs 587,546 Republican.
So Dems lead is just over 400,000 whereas it was over a million in 2020. This also will be interesting to track:


I agree with this assessment. Sure, there are a lot of folks with never-ending TDS. But I'll bet he's peeled off at least 10% of the folks that voted D last time and are walking away.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.

Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.

IOWA IS RED.

There was never any doubt at least in my mind. To the people over on the Muh Polls thread... SMDH.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.

Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.



This is an interesting trend. Out registering people this close to the election doesn't seem to indicate a lot of cross over voters. Why register now as a Rep to vote Dem?
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dreyOO said:

Prosperdick said:

tallgrant said:

No idea where that David Chapman guy got his numbers, but they're at least a week old. PA's official number today had 997,450 Dem returned ballots vs 587,546 Republican.
So Dems lead is just over 400,000 whereas it was over a million in 2020. This also will be interesting to track:


I agree with this assessment. Sure, there are a lot of folks with never-ending TDS. But I'll bet he's peeled off at least 10% of the folks that voted D last time and are walking away.
Agreed.

In our circle of friends there's 7 out of 8 who voted Biden 2020 who all voted early for Donald this time around. That's north Texas but still.
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The Florida Playbook from DeSantis, his predecessors and the FL GOP needs to be shared far and wide with all GOP governors and state leadership. What an absolutely amazing turnaround in the last ~decade or two. From waiting weeks for results that were invariably blue to finishing the count on election day and reliably red. Cannot understate the tremendous job that group has done taking out the trash.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Final registration numbers out of Iowa in case interested.

Since November 2020, when Trump won by 8.2%, Republicans have netted 121,145 registrations over Democrats. Just in October, Republicans netted 8,500 registrations.


So take that lady's Iowa poll and throw it in the trash heapโ€ฆ

Trump will likely do better than 2020 in Iowa, but worst case, he will match 2020 thereโ€ฆ
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boulderaggie said:

Agreed. Well done, trackers

Another job well done from me as well. I've been refreshing this thread like crazy and not getting much work done.
 
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