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If I ever go on trial I want a lot of you on my jury.

Most people when at a .08-.10 will hug a line and you will see them jerk the car back or a slow swerve within the lane back and forth. The fact that West drove on the shoulder for so long is an indication that she is very intoxicated.

When lit up, she pulled over in the middle lane of the highway. That is a sign of intoxication. She was instructed to drive to Shady Trail and pull over. She proceeded to drive to the right lane of the freeway and pull over. The officer again had to get out of the car and instruct her to pull over on Shady Trail. Failure to follow simple instructions are an indication of intoxication.

She failed the HGN bad enough where it can be seen on the camera. Another sign of intoxication.

She did not walk heal to toe and she continued to walk beyond the 9 steps. That is a failure of the test. Another sign of intoxication.

She put her arms out to balance, did not hold the leg up for 30 seconds, then switched legs during the one-legged stand. That is a failure. Another sign of intoxication.

She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

Any one of these is enough reason to arrest her for suspicion of DWI. When the blood results come back I will be shocked if she is under a 0.15.

The officer at the scene did her job and protected that baby and the general public from an intoxicsted driver. For that, she is receiving death threats. Allen West had my vote for governor right up until he demanded that the chief and mayor come to his house and apologize and the officer be fired and put her name out in public. Do you think he's going to go to the chief, mayor, and officer's houses and apologize to them when her blood test comes back over the limit? He lied when describing the officer's behavior. He cannot be trusted and he comes off as an entitled bully.

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Wish I could give this more than one star!

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Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:

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DPD chief is defending the cops and asking us to not say mean things

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We wrent going to sit idly by while people talk bad about us? You serious dude? We can say whatever the hell we want about you whenever we want without fear of retribution, as long as we aren't threatening violence or the like. That is part and parcel of American freedom.

Its things like this that make people hate cops. This thin blue line garbage from the chief is unbelievable.

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No one said there's going to be retribution for speaking their mind. He is defending his officer in what appears to be a legit arrest.

I definitely want yall on my jury. From the instant this lady's car appeared on camera to the end of the video, she ****ed up literally everything she did

Bias is real

So you would rather believe a radio show host than the cops?

If she wasnt drunk, I've seen enough to think she's too ******ed to have a license

What if she purposely did this because she doesn't want Allen West running for office next year?

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She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

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Where are we seeing this?

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Arrest report/affidavit

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Mike Matta, the pres of the DPA. This sure sounds a lot like perhaps Mrs. West was being a complete ass and non cooperative. She blew the PBT so hard that it was knocked out of the the officer's hand. Seems she may suffer from angry entitled woman syndrome.

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Well, the one thing we no for certain is that Mike Matta has absolutely no credibility.

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Matta is a good guy, she did blow on the PBT hard enough that she had to reset it a few times. Sounds like Matta misunderstood a comment in the report, or OP misunderstood something Matta said.

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Actually, Allen West himself said she blew it out of the officer's hand on the WBAP interview. I can see how my OP may have mislead you to think that Matta said that. Matta did not say that. West said that himself, so I guess West had no credibility.

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Dash Cam footage released:

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Has anyone ever seen the pen test take this long? This is ridiculous.

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Ebonics does not jive with instruction type communication.

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She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

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Where are we seeing this?

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Arrest report/affidavit

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Huh. These are the amazing lies that cops use that cannot be later verified but are put into reports to for greater probable cause. I'll wait on the actual testing.

As far as the heel-toe test, the officer literally demonstrated the test, but with 3 steps instead of 9 (which she repeated multiple times). Down 3 (except you do 9), how to turn, back 3 (except you do 9)

Then the lady immediately ****s it all up. Not heel-toe. Just walks to one end and then stops and looks like a dumbass. That was bad and representative of how many drunks fail this test.

I need to screenshot all the "cops are bad," posts so that when BLM come out and protest I can throw them in y'alls face.

Some of y'all are really acting like libs.

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She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

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Did they test the cup? If not, 1st year law school student could destroy them

Ok, I am not following this thread and have only clicked on it twice but it does look based on the video like she was pretty smashed.

If West presents evidence that her IQ is 75, I'd be willing to let her off.

It would explain why Allen owns an "I may be drunk but you're stupid, and at least I'll sober up in the morning" shirt

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They say its the only crime where you get a true jury of your peers.

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This comes off very much as "do you know who I am?"

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Funny, because to me it comes off as a **** arrest

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I strongly suggest y'all wait until all the information comes out. I listened to West on WBAP this morning and then I also listened to Mike Matta, the pres of the DPA. This sure sounds a lot like perhaps Mrs. West was being a complete ass and non cooperative. She blew the PBT so hard that it was knocked out of the the officer's hand. Seems she may suffer from angry entitled woman syndrome.

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Dash cam footage says that's a lie.

Dash cam footage also gives no indication of an angry, entitled woman.

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Correct. A wrong assumption on my part.

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I need to screenshot all the "cops are bad," posts so that when BLM come out and protest I can throw them in y'alls face.

Some of y'all are really acting like libs.

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black LIES matter says all cops are bad

I think some cops are good.

Ithink the black lady cop wasn't good but it had nothing to do with her being black or a lady

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She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

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Where are we seeing this?

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We're not. They didn't test the drink. She never appeared intoxicated to me at any point.

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There isn't a police department in America that tests the drink. She didn't write her for open container so it wouldn't matter. It either smells like alcohol or it doesn't. In this case it did. If the blood test results come back that she had alcohol in her system, are you going to admit that you do not know what an intoxicated person looks like?

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Talked to West. As of 10:30 a.m. wife is still in jail. No word on when she'll be masgistrated.

.@Allenbwest2's wife arrested in jailed in Dallas. Details: https://t.co/y9EWh4pYXz

— San Angelo Live (@SanAngeloLIVE) August 21, 2021

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We're all assuming she is innocent? Do y'all think cops are following her around waiting for a reason to pull her over?

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Told y'all.

Allen West can GFH. His wife too. His run for governor is over and he acted like an entitled bully - which is exactly what he's campaigning against! Did that dumbass think the video wouldn't come out?

He doesn't belong anywhere near the governor's mansion.

Some of y'all need to look above to find your savior, because these charlatans have been a flop, one after another.

His entire campaign is riding on this blood test. And this thread has also made the outcome much more interesting to me

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DPD chief is defending the cops and asking us to not say mean things

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We wrent going to sit idly by while people talk bad about us? You serious dude? We can say whatever the hell we want about you whenever we want without fear of retribution, as long as we aren't threatening violence or the like. That is part and parcel of American freedom.

Its things like this that make people hate cops. This thin blue line garbage from the chief is unbelievable.

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No one said there's going to be retribution for speaking their mind. He is defending his officer in what appears to be a legit arrest.

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He and the officer were threatened by West. He is being a leader and standing up for the officer. That is a HUGE rarity in this day and age. This Chief already has a retired 30-year pension. He is doing this job bc he likes being a police officer and it shows in his actions.

The goalposts will move

She may not have been under the influence but she is a **** driver. The same type of **** drivers that cause accidents every day. In the lane on the shoulder, in the lane, on the shoulder...and then she stopped in the middle of the damned road. If she doesn't have enough common sense to not stop IN THE MIDDLE of the road she doesn't need to be driving at all. And she damned sure doesn't need to be driving with a baby in the care.

She was cooperative and my initial assumption was very incorrect. She failed the heel to toe test and the fact that she huffed on the breathalyzer like it was a balloon was just weird.

Did she seem intoxicated? Maybe or maybe not. Release her on a maybe not and she wrecks and kills the baby then the cop is in deeper ***** Could the officer have given more clear instructions? Perhaps, but all you Barney Fifes in here are ridiculous.

Weird how it's all Blue Lives matter in here until one of those blue lives arrest the wife of a so called conservative hero who blatantly asks for different treatment than anyone else would receive...the exact definition of what liberals ask for all the time. Some of y'all need to find some consistency in your lives.

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Has anyone ever seen the pen test take this long? This is ridiculous.

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The "pen test" can take awhile. She got the nystagmus to the right. You can see her repeatedly trying to get it to the left.

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As far as the heel-toe test, the officer literally demonstrated the test, but with 3 steps instead of 9 (which she repeated multiple times). Down 3 (except you do 9), how to turn, back 3 (except you do 9)

Then the lady immediately ****s it all up. Not heel-toe. Just walks to one end and then stops and looks like a dumbass. That was bad and representative of how many drunks fail this test.

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Failing the test in that way doesn't mean she is drunk, it means she is can't follow instructions.

I don't think the heel-toe instruction could have been any more clear. That demonstration was as plain as it gets. The cop didn't help her once she got lost mid-test because being able to retain and follow extremely clear instruction IS part of the test.

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As far as the heel-toe test, the officer literally demonstrated the test, but with 3 steps instead of 9 (which she repeated multiple times). Down 3 (except you do 9), how to turn, back 3 (except you do 9)

Then the lady immediately ****s it all up. Not heel-toe. Just walks to one end and then stops and looks like a dumbass. That was bad and representative of how many drunks fail this test.

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Failing the test in that way doesn't mean she is drunk, it means she is can't follow instructions.

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Which is part of the test

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DPD chief is defending the cops and asking us to not say mean things

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We wrent going to sit idly by while people talk bad about us? You serious dude? We can say whatever the hell we want about you whenever we want without fear of retribution, as long as we aren't threatening violence or the like. That is part and parcel of American freedom.

Its things like this that make people hate cops. This thin blue line garbage from the chief is unbelievable.

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No one said there's going to be retribution for speaking their mind. He is defending his officer in what appears to be a legit arrest.

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He and the officer were threatened by West. He is being a leader and standing up for the officer. That is a HUGE rarity in this day and age. This Chief already has a retired 30-year pension. He is doing this job bc he likes being a police officer and it shows in his actions.

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Or he is doing it for the $250K/yr...

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You get an entire courtroom of your peers.

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The "pen test" can take awhile. She got the nystagmus to the right. You can see her repeatedly trying to get it to the left.

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Their lawyer says she had a brain aneurysm behind her right eye, which is why she had trouble with the field testing. He also claims she told the officer that, but it is not in the report.

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She had spilled alcohol on her shirt and a McDonalds cup containing alcohol in the center console of the SUV. The car smelled like an alcoholic beverage when you approached it. These are all signs of intoxication.

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Huh. These are the amazing lies that cops use that cannot be later verified but are put into reports to for greater probable cause. I'll wait on the actual testing.

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Just out of curiosity, when a person is pulled over by the police and parks in the center lane of a highway do you think that person is safe to drive? When they are instructed to drive down to the next street and turn in, and instead the park the car in the right lane of the highway, do you think that person is safe to operate a vehicle?

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You are wrong. If she refuses every test and goes straight to jail, there is no proof of intoxication except the poor driving and the blood test. A decent defense lawyer will argue that the elapsed time between the time of the arrest and the blood draw will allow more alcohol to be processed in her system causing the BAC to be higher than it was when she was driving. The failure of multiple tests will be hard to overcome.

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Lol, "wrong"...you are clueless. And this isn't about alcohol. It's about a DWID/DUI at this point, IF the tox report comes back positive for prescription drugs.

You completely ignore the fact that how a cop acts and administers a test is extremely useful for a defense attorney but even more impactful for a jury.

A jury would see the cop failing more than the fat grandma, when it comes to those tests. But it probably won't even go to jury trial, because the state will try to save face for DPD and this poor cop who is an embarrassment to cops across the nation. At best, maybe 1 or 2 jurors would think this cop did a fine job and the fat grandma failed miserably, like you think.

I personally experienced this kind of cop failure roadside on my own DWI case. The prosecution even tried to claim they "lost the video" it was so bad. Yeah, that's one anecdote, but Mrs. West now has a similar anecdote. We both lucked out with inexperienced cops who almost appear to be giving sobriety tests for the very first time.

Let's see what happens. If it comes back she has trace amounts of Valium in blood from a one time prescription, the best thing going for her case will be this cops behavior. The best thing going for the cop is the way Mrs West pulled over.

Do you think that heel-toe demonstration was confusing? If so, what was confusing about it?