Yep, attorneys hate when people know how to deal with cop encounters. They ALL say you should shut up and pay a lawyer.

You are no different.

And BTW, that strategy worked like a charm for me, 15 years ago. I still have the video.

Just read on Fox Channel 4 - DFW - that West announced she has been released from custody. No other details were provided by him.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/wife-of-texas-governor-candidate-allen-west-arrested-for-dwi-in-dallas-with-grandchild-in-car

justcallmeharry said:

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Just read on Fox Channel 4 - DFW - that West announced she has been released from custody. No other details were provided by him.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/wife-of-texas-governor-candidate-allen-west-arrested-for-dwi-in-dallas-with-grandchild-in-car

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Huh. No details.

I think he tried to use his political power to move the needle in his favor here. Notice he kept the focus on his grandson.

If she was hammered or on drugs then his run for governor may be over. There is absolutely no excuse to drive drunk nowadays.

The emboldened swamp operatives are feeling increasingly powerful. Their aggressiveness continues to strike closer to home.

They could have thought it was alcohol but then a negative breath test might then lead to a blood test for drug intox if she was showing severe loss of mental or physical faculties. I cannot see any PD anywhere ever continuing someone in custody solely for alcohol intox after a zero breath test. P S I do notice there is no mention in the article of her taking a breath test. They may not have suspected alcohol but rather drugs. In that case only a blood test would have been done. Bottom line: they probably suspected her of drug, not alcohol, intox.

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justcallmeharry said:

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Just read on Fox Channel 4 - DFW - that West announced she has been released from custody. No other details were provided by him.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/wife-of-texas-governor-candidate-allen-west-arrested-for-dwi-in-dallas-with-grandchild-in-car

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Huh. No details.

I think he tried to use his political power to move the needle in his favor here. Notice he kept the focus on his grandson.

If she was hammered or on drugs then his run for governor may be over. There is absolutely no excuse to drive drunk nowadays.

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Why was she smoking crack with male strippers? Well that doesn't matter either so maybe it's over and maybe it ain't.

When BMX checks back in, let's hear what he would do if pulled over in TX and possibly a hair over .08?

What do YOU do exactly BMX? When YOU get pulled over in that hypothetical?..not the sheep who didn't pass the bar, but you. Does BMX go straight to jail instead of feeling out the cops and seeing if there is way to go home or benefit the case on the record?

As usual he does a drive by, no substance, then disappears. The last thing a DWI lawyer wants is people knowing what maximum eye deviation twitch is, etc (unless you are paying for their course). Just like the last thing cops want is divers fully educated on DWI roadside tests and equipment. So he tries to disparage me out of frustration, instead of challenging my post.

thousands and thousand of people in this country get taken into custody by police, talk to them without a lawyer and then get released. tens of thousands more end up getting themselves in more trouble for not taking the simple advice of "Remaining silent."

you'd be the guy saying "its okay to just talk to them. I got off 15 years ago" Your personal anecdote aside, Its terrible advice that you'd be giving, just like here.

If I were pulled over and thought I was over the .08, I would not do any of the stupid human tricks. maybe you don't think you are drunk if over that limit, but the law says you are. I don't personally agree with it, but that neither here nor there. If I knew i was under, then its a completely different situation.


Part of being inebriated is not knowing your full capabilities. its dumb to be giving police evidence against you. We get that you can sing the alphabet backwards after 5 beers and can skip down a straight line. You are the greatest drinker ever. the vast majority of people are not.

I'm not a DWI lawyer. If you felt disparaged over a joke, that is on you. I can't help that you are overly sensitive.

So how would he know that she blew clean on the breathalyzer before she was out of jail?

This seems like great advice and worth the watch

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They could have thought it was alcohol but then a negative breath test might then lead to a blood test for drug intox if she was showing severe loss of mental or physical faculties. I cannot see any PD anywhere ever continuing someone in custody solely for alcohol intox after a zero breath test. P S I do notice there is no mention in the article of her taking a breath test. They may not have suspected alcohol but rather drugs. In that case only a blood test would have been done. Bottom line: they probably suspected her of drug, not alcohol, intox.

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I am a police officer (for about 5 more months thank God) and was on the DWI Unit in my city for a year.

My guess is this officer "thought" alcohol" which is pretty suspect, because you'd smell it or there would be bloodshot eyes, or both if there was alcohol on board. I sure would like to see video and affidavit because this could get real entertaining in a hurry. If the PBT showed 0.00 several times I bet they went for a blood draw because "well, we may have ****ed up and this may not be a DWI after all, but we better go for a blood draw to hope there's something on board so we don't look like fools".

My guess is that blood draw is going to come back clean and they arrested some older lady simply because she couldn't do walk and turn or one leg stand. Which, I'm curious as to how they even felt it necessary to do those, because they shouldn't have even seen HGN without alcohol unless she was loaded on some other depressant.

If I got nada on HGN, I always stopped right there and sent them on their marry way unless they were slurring all over the place.

This is going to get real good one way or the other, and all of you rushing to defend this Dallas officer because you just know she was intoxicated may temper your opinion in the meantime. Because it wouldn't shock me at all if this dip**** made a crap arrest.

Here's Allen West describing his wife's side of the story.

The key takeaway from West's comments are that Dallas PD had a grant to track down DWIs and therefore an incentive to perform the arrest, "or lose grant funding."

This comes off very much as "do you know who I am?"

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This comes off very much as "do you know who I am?"

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Funny, because to me it comes off as a **** arrest

Allen West didn't say this, but if you look at the political affiliations of those who arrested his wife.... well? Plus that DWI program that funds the Dallas Police Dept...

.@AllenWest goes after the Dallas PD, Dallas mayor, and Dallas County district attorney, all controlled by Democrats. https://t.co/mDz44oD96c

— San Angelo Live (@SanAngeloLIVE) August 22, 2021

Ironic you come here to "joke" about me for being clueless, then you mention "alphabet backwards" which isn't even taught or used in TX. Also still no specific criticism of my comments on walk and turn, eye test, and refusing anything in a way that helps your case. The one who is "sensitive" is you for coming here to call me out as a "joke" because I've been living rent free in your head for months.

I can't tell if she was drunk or not, all i see here are conspiracies with the idiots in Dallas.

If she was drunk, i hope she is nailed to the fullest extent. If she wasn't, i hope Dallas officials are nailed to the fullest extent.

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So how would he know that she blew clean on the breathalyzer before she was out of jail?

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He talked to her.

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Two words if you get pulled over and they suspect DWI/DUI: Law-yer.

May cost you a temporary license suspension, but they won't be able to convict you of dick

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Not really true anymore. It's pretty simple and quick to get a blood draw warrant and they're going to find out if you were drinking or had anything else on board.

This blood draw is going to tell us everything

always liked Allen West
hope he reams em
(no offense)

I've had 2 DWI roadside cop encounters likely in the .08 range. One 15 years ago, went to jail in Austin and got dismissed then expunged. The cop doing that eye test got frustrated when I wouldn't max deviate, and after about 10min I asked for a 2nd opinion from his partner. That REALLY pissed him off, so much so he got pulled aside and another cop whispered into his body mic to "take a deep breath and calm down". I have still have that audio. I also respect that cop a lot for not lying and reporting an eye twitch, which he could easily have done.

The other instance, the HPD cop let me go after politely talking with him and him seeing I wasn't drunk or wasn't an easy conviction or didn't lawyer up.

So much of these encounters depends on the cop you get. I'd say there is a very wide range in competence and attitude. Although the cop is trying to screw you, at least from my experience, they stayed honest. In my particular cases, I think I would have been WORSE off had I "not talked to cops". But I also never studied law beyond Mays biz, so what do I know.

Signed,
common folk

A. It's unlikely what West's wife was targeted by the Dallas Democrat apparatus. That would've involved them selecting, passing orders, and this officer finding & executing the plan. It's probably another "wrong incentives = wrong result" situation.

B. Friday night arrest suck since you stay locked up a whole weekend rather than just a night.

C. I'd love to see West leverage this for the Black vote: "I'm pro-law enforcement, but illegal abuses of power in these Blue cities MUST be stamped out for the good of all communities. Most people (especially in minority communities) don't have the connections and financial tools to fight abuses in the ways that my wife can. I recognize both sides and will fight for justice for all!"

Not to take away from the news on West fam, but as a DWI thread, here is one last bit of advise for anyone not confident enough to blow and sober enough to talk to cop....and it's sure to TRIGGER lawyers

1) know how many drinks puts you in .05-.07 range. X per, Y hours.
https://www.alcohol.org/bac-calculator/
2) if pulled over with passengers, tell them to tell cop you had "1" or "2 beers" or a "few drinks"
3) you tell cop specifically how many drinks of what, over a general time period per #1.

If I tell a cop I had 5 Millers over about 5-6 hours, while passengers give the typical response, then I have now:
A) Established a quantifiable data point on the record that puts a 215lb male below .08.
B) Established credibility by being specific and honest relative to passengers..especially if he smells alcohol in vehicle.
C) Likely differentiated yourself and gained some respect from the cop for being one of the extremely few who dont say "nothing" or "a few" or "talk to my lawyer".

You can do this, then refuse everything after. It's just a verbal response, and a calculated risk. Just like "remaining silent" and letting cop dictate everything in his report is a calculated risk.

Is this pro legal advise? No. It's simple logic based on how I understand the vast majority of cops to think, or how I would think if I was a cop. After having 2 successful encounters, I prob put a bit more thought into what I would do if there is ever a 3rd. Just sharing, because unlike BMX I recognize posters here are not the type of uneducated folks you see incriminating themselves on first 48. This is for educated grown men and women to consider (or not consider) if they are ever put in a compromising situation. It's not legal advice to the masses that never visit F16.

You don't stay locked up for the weekend on a DWI if you're arrested on Friday. That practice has been dead for years. You're arraigned as soon as you're under .08 basically

West has a political issue against the state criminal justice system concerning the TxDOT STEP grant program.

While we fund the DPD with a $1 million state TXDOT grant to catch grandmas and falsely accuse them of DWI, meanwhile, borderland sheriff's offices have been denied the money Abbott promised to enforce the border.

John Soloman reports:

Texas counties that requested disaster aid for border crisis haven't got it, officials say

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While Texas Gov. Greg Abbott this spring allocated $1 billion in border security funds to the state's Department of Public Safety and 1,000 members of law enforcement to secure the border, counties that made disaster declarations over the illegal migrant crisis say they still haven't received the resources they sought four months later.

Source: Just the News

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Going down the rabbit hole on SFST is enlightening as to how an officer can nail you. I can't do the balance test when I'm stone sober. Another thing is that when instructions are given, you have to follow them to the letter. On the WAT test, when doing the turn, you can't lift the pivot foot, and you can't spin. The instructions are " WHEN YOU TURN, KEEP THE FRONT FOOT ON THE LINE, AND TURN BY TAKING A SERIES OF SMALL STEPS WITH THE OTHER FOOT". Most people just spin around or take a single step. The WAT has a 68% accuracy rate.

The tests seem to be designed to make you fail.

If this halfway true, DPD is ****ed.

https://www.facebook.com/428053320608798/posts/4263280657086026/?d=n

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Funny. Nothing is going to happen to DPD. Police run roughshod over our rights all the time and nothing happens.

You haven't been watching DPD lately.

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Isn't that how our system is supposed to work? Innocent until proven guilty?

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Welcome to new Amerika comrade

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If this halfway true, DPD is ****ed.

https://www.facebook.com/428053320608798/posts/4263280657086026/?d=n

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So cliff notes.

A) It was a black female cop, "L. Harris"
B) Mrs West refused blood test, then they took one via warrant anyway, which bruised her.
C) She got jailed over Fri-Sat night (outrageous)

Props to her for not remaining silent and helping her case. A great example capturing quite a bit of evidence that will make it harder to convict of DWID, if it turns out there are prescription drugs in blood.

Probably a black female cop on power trip, and it finally caught up with her. No way it goes to jury even if she ends up having benzos or PKs in her blood.

I hope it leads to banning of forced blood draws and no refusal warrants etc. That's an unconstitutional abuse of power.

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You don't stay locked up for the weekend on a DWI if you're arrested on Friday. That practice has been dead for years. You're arraigned as soon as you're under .08 basically

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good. Probably also good that I haven't had recent enough experience to correct my misunderstanding on the matter!

Since when did dpd conduct traffic stops?

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Texas counties that requested disaster aid for border crisis haven't got it, officials say

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How is Hidalgo County paying for their new courthouse?
Govt emergency funds from the state?
New Courthouse Project

Ask them?