Boy this has been as eye opener on a couple of levels. I keep telling myself there are many more good cops than those other kind.
txaggie_08 said:
Just watched the Dashcam video. That Bocephus could take that and say Mrs. West had a 0.15 BAC is nuts. She seemed like a frustrated older lady that was confused on why she was going through all of that and confused by the directions of the officer; which were pretty pathetic.
Player To Be Named Later said:txaggie_08 said:
Just watched the Dashcam video. That Bocephus could take that and say Mrs. West had a 0.15 BAC is nuts. She seemed like a frustrated older lady that was confused on why she was going through all of that and confused by the directions of the officer; which were pretty pathetic.
Have they released the full video yet? I have purposefully not watched a whole lot of it yet.
But I'd like to now at least watch the SFSTs
powerbelly said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.
You could do what West did, or <something undisclosed but not what West did>, like powerbelly.PearlJammin said:It's admirable and chivalrous to defend your wife. She had to have been horrified, insulted, and disgusted with what went down. I'm sure she loves her man even more for going to bat for her.powerbelly said:You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:VegasAg86 said:Buzzy said:
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
What kind of spouse sits around and keeps their mouth shut. Just to win a fking election?
I support him even more now.
He didn't need to release the officers name right away. That showed serious lack of judgement.PearlJammin said:powerbelly said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.
It's admirable and chivalrous to defend your wife. She had to have been horrified, insulted, and disgusted with what went down. I'm sure she loves her man even more for going to bat for her.
What kind of spouse sits around and keeps their mouth shut. Just to win a fking election?
I support him even more now.
powerbelly said:He didn't need to release the officers name right away. That showed serious lack of judgement.PearlJammin said:powerbelly said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.
It's admirable and chivalrous to defend your wife. She had to have been horrified, insulted, and disgusted with what went down. I'm sure she loves her man even more for going to bat for her.
What kind of spouse sits around and keeps their mouth shut. Just to win a fking election?
I support him even more now.
powerbelly said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.
texags knows things...ABATTBQ11 said:DallasAg 94 said:And that is just in this thread, alone.ABATTBQ11 said:YepBocephus said:I make lots of mistakes. This does not make a lot of sense though. Nystagmus with a zero tox?Captain Pablo said:Cops get it wrong sometimes. They make mistakes, yourself includedBocephus said:
I too would like to see all the body cam footage. If it was anyone but Milner I would suggest something was up. What I saw on that video does not go along with that test result (neither does what I was told from the scene).
He'd better hope no lawyer ever connects him with his username.
"Officer Bocephus, do you make mistakes?"
"No."
"Oh really? Have you ever heard of a website called TexAgs?"
"..."
It wasn't like Allen West was a Senator and drove off a bridge and then ran for President.geoag58 said:powerbelly said:DallasAg 94 said:
So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
You can defend your wife's honor in a much better way that shows you are fit to be governor or you can go with West's method.
Allen West did nothing wrong.
We need people who will fight, our fight is against marxists. West has passed this test with flying colors.
Sq4fish83 said:AggieLostinDallas said:MsDoubleD81 said:Can anyone confirm?sonnysixkiller said:
Is Bocephus really a cop ? This is pretty scary situation.
He's absolutely DPD.
95% of cops are good cops.
Bocephus is part of the 5%.
Bocephus said:LSCSN said:
i mentioned it earlier but normal people would have been screwed and had to pay out the wazoo for being in the same situation.
If Milner is her lawyer, then she paid.
Sea Speed said:
Word of caution, people are catching bans so watch what you post.
me? neither. i just dont want others to get banned. being banned sucks, ask me how i know.UhOhNoAgTag said:Sea Speed said:
Word of caution, people are catching bans so watch what you post.
Moderator sock or friend of Bo?
Bocephus said:
If the blood test comes back with no signs of alcohol, I will be right back on here admitting that I was wrong. The officer did do an excellent job. As I said before, I will be surprised if her blood alcohol level is below 0.15. We will see.

I'd bet you money that his record as a cop would show multiple suspensions.Sq4fish83 said:texags knows things...ABATTBQ11 said:DallasAg 94 said:And that is just in this thread, alone.ABATTBQ11 said:YepBocephus said:I make lots of mistakes. This does not make a lot of sense though. Nystagmus with a zero tox?Captain Pablo said:Cops get it wrong sometimes. They make mistakes, yourself includedBocephus said:
I too would like to see all the body cam footage. If it was anyone but Milner I would suggest something was up. What I saw on that video does not go along with that test result (neither does what I was told from the scene).
He'd better hope no lawyer ever connects him with his username.
"Officer Bocephus, do you make mistakes?"
"No."
"Oh really? Have you ever heard of a website called TexAgs?"
"..."
DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
Bocephus said:fredfredunderscorefred said:Bocephus said:fredfredunderscorefred said:Bocephus said:Player To Be Named Later said:If you look back early in this entire thread, I said way back then that if this was proven to be a bad arrest, the officer should be facing potential termination.Irish 2.0 said:
Thanks for the honest answer and discord
She'd better hope this is just a legit mistake that requires more training and not something intentional. If proven she lied even a little, I hope she never works as an officer again.
We saw what was in the report. She would not need to lie in order to make the arrest. The chief backed her and you would have to believe he had seen all the video. Hopefully we will actually see the toxicology results and not just a letter from a lawyer to his client. Would like to see all of the body camera footage too.
$100 bucks to charity of your choice if you can link to a letter from lawyer to client ;-)I stand by my assertion that a full apology to my wife Angela is warranted. As well, the full unedited body cam video should be released by the @DallasPD @DPDChiefGarcia to the press and the public. My wife’s honor and reputation should have never been assailed. pic.twitter.com/S1BnNXJglU
— Allen West (@AllenWest) September 1, 2021
That doesn't look like a letter from George Milner to you?
Who is the letter to? Lawyer to client....your words
Ps: bet you wont acknowledge you are wrong here too
I had assumed Milner to Allen West. In the end, I do not care.
Can I get in on the wagering as well?ham98 said:I'd bet you money that his record as a cop would show multiple suspensions.Sq4fish83 said:texags knows things...ABATTBQ11 said:DallasAg 94 said:And that is just in this thread, alone.ABATTBQ11 said:YepBocephus said:I make lots of mistakes. This does not make a lot of sense though. Nystagmus with a zero tox?Captain Pablo said:Cops get it wrong sometimes. They make mistakes, yourself includedBocephus said:
I too would like to see all the body cam footage. If it was anyone but Milner I would suggest something was up. What I saw on that video does not go along with that test result (neither does what I was told from the scene).
He'd better hope no lawyer ever connects him with his username.
"Officer Bocephus, do you make mistakes?"
"No."
"Oh really? Have you ever heard of a website called TexAgs?"
"..."
DannyDuberstein said:
You counted
Buzzy said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
The proper protocol if you have a problem with an interaction with the police is to talk to Internal Affairs and file a complaint. The fact that West felt he needed to immediately go to social media and scream out this officer's name and badge number and demand personal apologies from the officer involved, the police chief, the DA, and God shows massive entitlement on his part. His reaction and demand of firings ('cancellation') is pure leftist tactics, a play out of their book.
What 'backdoor privilege'?
"Hey, my wife was arrested last night, she wasn't drinking, can you look into this situation?"
"Yeah, I'll ask around and get back to you."
"Hey, asked around, looks like she failed the field sobriety test, but the blood draw came back clean. We're not going to press charges."
"Okay, thanks."
Some 'privilege'.
How often have you gone on social media and demanded firings in defense of your wife's 'honor' and 'character'?
Why does your wife need you to 'defend' her, is she incapable of standing up for herself? You probably think you're being noble by 'standing up' for your wife, but what you're really doing in such an instance is diminishing her.
Reality is, if West doesn't say anything and the blood test comes back clear, charges are never filed, and his campaign continues as normal. No one would be the wiser. Instead, he's diminished his wife,exposed himself as entitled leftist, and destroyed any shot he had of being elected. He reacted emotionally to an event where he should have remained calm, and showed everyone why he is unfit to be governor.
I'm sure he's thrilled his wife's 'honor' and 'character' are in intact, though.
Buzzy said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
The proper protocol if you have a problem with an interaction with the police is to talk to Internal Affairs and file a complaint. The fact that West felt he needed to immediately go to social media and scream out this officer's name and badge number and demand personal apologies from the officer involved, the police chief, the DA, and God shows massive entitlement on his part. His reaction and demand of firings ('cancellation') is pure leftist tactics, a play out of their book.
What 'backdoor privilege'?
"Hey, my wife was arrested last night, she wasn't drinking, can you look into this situation?"
"Yeah, I'll ask around and get back to you."
"Hey, asked around, looks like she failed the field sobriety test, but the blood draw came back clean. We're not going to press charges."
"Okay, thanks."
Some 'privilege'.
How often have you gone on social media and demanded firings in defense of your wife's 'honor' and 'character'?
Why does your wife need you to 'defend' her, is she incapable of standing up for herself? You probably think you're being noble by 'standing up' for your wife, but what you're really doing in such an instance is diminishing her.
Reality is, if West doesn't say anything and the blood test comes back clear, charges are never filed, and his campaign continues as normal. No one would be the wiser. Instead, he's diminished his wife,exposed himself as entitled leftist, and destroyed any shot he had of being elected. He reacted emotionally to an event where he should have remained calm, and showed everyone why he is unfit to be governor.
I'm sure he's thrilled his wife's 'honor' and 'character' are in intact, though.
The only one I have a personal beef with is Creuzot, he's a human POS. Look into the Sherin Mathews story sometime. Creuzot refused to prosecute her adoptive father Wesley Mathews despite all the evidence in the world he murdered her after subjecting her to YEARS of physical abuse. Sherin was 3. If you're not going to go after child abusers and babykillers as the DA, WTF did you even take the job?!?! Even if you somehow lose a slam-dunk case, who cares, you did your job as a representative of the public in the pursuit of justice.BuddysBud said:Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
Bo is getting the heat, but you were just as hardheaded about her guilt. The difference was your personal attacks gave me the impression that you have a personal beef against the West's.
Buzzy said:
Continuing to argue with someone who is wrong but will never understand why they're wrong and has no desire to understand why they're wrong just become an exercise in futility at some point.
If you think his political opponents wouldn't have hammered him on the stop and arrest, then you're grossly naive.Buzzy said:DallasAg 94 said:So, you wanted West to backdoor privilege getting a favor to avoid prosecution for a crime his wife seemingly didn't commit?!Buzzy said:The minute this whole incident came out, I was certain Creuzot wasn't going to charge anyone with anything, even if she was guilty. It's one of the reasons I take issue with Allen West's reaction, a simple phone call to Creuzot's office would have assured him nothing would happen.VegasAg86 said:You want him to charge someone with a 0.00 BAC test with no drugs?Buzzy said:
Completely unsurprised Creuzot refused to charge her with anything, this is also the person who thinks theft under $750 is not theft, and refused to charge Wesley Mathews with murder. Creuzot is a coward.
But West has to defend his wife's "honor" and 'character', and it is probably going to cost him any chance he had at being elected.
I'm going to break it to you... defending my wife's "honor" and "character" would be pretty important to me. I go to bed every night with my wife.
The proper protocol if you have a problem with an interaction with the police is to talk to Internal Affairs and file a complaint. The fact that West felt he needed to immediately go to social media and scream out this officer's name and badge number and demand personal apologies from the officer involved, the police chief, the DA, and God shows massive entitlement on his part. His reaction and demand of firings ('cancellation') is pure leftist tactics, a play out of their book.
What 'backdoor privilege'?
"Hey, my wife was arrested last night, she wasn't drinking, can you look into this situation?"
"Yeah, I'll ask around and get back to you."
"Hey, asked around, looks like she failed the field sobriety test, but the blood draw came back clean. We're not going to press charges."
"Okay, thanks."
Some 'privilege'.
How often have you gone on social media and demanded firings in defense of your wife's 'honor' and 'character'?
Why does your wife need you to 'defend' her, is she incapable of standing up for herself? You probably think you're being noble by 'standing up' for your wife, but what you're really doing in such an instance is diminishing her.
Reality is, if West doesn't say anything and the blood test comes back clear, charges are never filed, and his campaign continues as normal. No one would be the wiser. Instead, he's diminished his wife,exposed himself as entitled leftist, and destroyed any shot he had of being elected. He reacted emotionally to an event where he should have remained calm, and showed everyone why he is unfit to be governor.
I'm sure he's thrilled his wife's 'honor' and 'character' are in intact, though.
thirdcoast said:Buzzy said:
Continuing to argue with someone who is wrong but will never understand why they're wrong and has no desire to understand why they're wrong just become an exercise in futility at some point.
Hey Buzzy boo boo, time to take your own advice.
Why don't you go join Bocephus in the DPD safe space. Get out before that unedited video commits a hate crime on yall.
I'm going to guess that if he had NOT gotten ahead of this debacle by the DPD, that West would be playing "clean up the mess." If he had NOT already been contacted by a reporter looking for a comment, tipping him off about the media, he knew it was coming.Buzzy said:
The proper protocol if you have a problem with an interaction with the police is to talk to Internal Affairs and file a complaint. The fact that West felt he needed to immediately go to social media and scream out this officer's name and badge number and demand personal apologies from the officer involved, the police chief, the DA, and God shows massive entitlement on his part. His reaction and demand of firings ('cancellation') is pure leftist tactics, a play out of their book.
This is the only real Social Media I use.Quote:
How often have you gone on social media and demanded firings in defense of your wife's 'honor' and 'character'?
Why does your wife need you to 'defend' her, is she incapable of standing up for herself? You probably think you're being noble by 'standing up' for your wife, but what you're really doing in such an instance is diminishing her.
It isn't about charges being filed. He'd have spent 12 days without any defense for constant barrage of Social Media attacks. They would have looked feckless, like Joe Biden.Quote:
Reality is, if West doesn't say anything and the blood test comes back clear, charges are never filed, and his campaign continues as normal. No one would be the wiser. Instead, he's diminished his wife,exposed himself as entitled leftist, and destroyed any shot he had of being elected. He reacted emotionally to an event where he should have remained calm, and showed everyone why he is unfit to be governor.
I'm sure he's thrilled his wife's 'honor' and 'character' are in intact, though.
I only watched the second video, but the flip on this thread is interesting.thirdcoast said:Bocephus said:
If the blood test comes back with no signs of alcohol, I will be right back on here admitting that I was wrong. The officer did do an excellent job. As I said before, I will be surprised if her blood alcohol level is below 0.15. We will see.
A slightly different take on the job the officer did roadside. Just wait until the full video is released