Is UFO Secrecy Crumbling?

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Just an Ag
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I have been an extreme skeptic on this topic for 99% of my life. The abundance of disclosure and whistle blowing and attention this is getting, particularly over the last 12 months or so, has convinced me that *something* is going on. What, I don't know. Aliens? Still very difficult for me to get on board with.

It's all very confusing and I don't know what to make of it honestly. You'd think the Pentagon releasing footage and publicly announcing the now undeniable existence of UAP's would be front page earth shattering news. The biggest news story maybe ever in history, yet it met with 'meh.'

I'm stumped.

I agree with your take. I love a good Aliens discussion. But as intriguing as it sounds, it is not real. Aliens may exist somewhere, but they are not here on planet Earth, and I'll go as far to say they will never be here (and we will never travel to where they are, either). You need to come up with some real fantasy sci-fi assumptions to make it work regarding physics, and our proximity in the vastness of space to said aliens for our paths to ever cross with them. I'm not even close to believing we will ever interact with space aliens.

I am also mildly curious why it is being tossed about so much lately, but I do not believe it has anything to do with preparing the world for some earth-shattering news about alien visitors. Caveat - my deadset assuredness that this is baloney could be an indicator the opposite is true!
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11:56a, 7/20/23
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Here is the press conference about the UAP hearings next week

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3:34p, 7/20/23
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I think it is all a diversion from something sinister that is going on.
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In reply to Fins Up! • 12:59p, 7/21/23
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The Chicken Ranch said:
I think it is all a diversion from something sinister that is going on.


Demons
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1:10p, 7/21/23
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The UFO situation is a hoax perpetrated by the Feds.

There are no aliens and the "evidence" we've seen are a result of phony digital artifacts created to confuse the witnesses (pilots, etc) and the public.

The government longs for the good old days of Covid lockdowns, when they had a largely scared and desperate population who will happily abandon the law to serve ugly government objectives.

This is their chance to do it again.

Please please, someone call me a conspiracy theorist. Because every time you do, I turn out to be right.

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In reply to Just an Ag • 1:15p, 7/21/23
Just an Ag said:
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I have been an extreme skeptic on this topic for 99% of my life. The abundance of disclosure and whistle blowing and attention this is getting, particularly over the last 12 months or so, has convinced me that *something* is going on. What, I don't know. Aliens? Still very difficult for me to get on board with.

It's all very confusing and I don't know what to make of it honestly. You'd think the Pentagon releasing footage and publicly announcing the now undeniable existence of UAP's would be front page earth shattering news. The biggest news story maybe ever in history, yet it met with 'meh.'

I'm stumped.

I agree with your take. I love a good Aliens discussion. But as intriguing as it sounds, it is not real. Aliens may exist somewhere, but they are not here on planet Earth, and I'll go as far to say they will never be here (and we will never travel to where they are, either). You need to come up with some real fantasy sci-fi assumptions to make it work regarding physics, and our proximity in the vastness of space to said aliens for our paths to ever cross with them. I'm not even close to believing we will ever interact with space aliens.

I am also mildly curious why it is being tossed about so much lately, but I do not believe it has anything to do with preparing the world for some earth-shattering news about alien visitors. Caveat - my deadset assuredness that this is baloney could be an indicator the opposite is true!


This is silly.
200 years ago the petroleum industry didn't exist.
2,000 our biggest power source was wind
200,000 years ago we were dumb hairy creatures chunking rocks

What a civilization is capable of 500 to 1,000,000 years ahead of our current development is hardly fathomable.
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In reply to DirtyMikesBoys • 1:16p, 7/21/23
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I have been an extreme skeptic on this topic for 99% of my life. The abundance of disclosure and whistle blowing and attention this is getting, particularly over the last 12 months or so, has convinced me that *something* is going on. What, I don't know. Aliens? Still very difficult for me to get on board with.

It's all very confusing and I don't know what to make of it honestly. You'd think the Pentagon releasing footage and publicly announcing the now undeniable existence of UAP's would be front page earth shattering news. The biggest news story maybe ever in history, yet it met with 'meh.'

I'm stumped.


Don't be. These aliens/UFOs are part of the Great Deception in which Satanic entities pose as aliens. Their technology is far superior to ours. Groups with superior technology will always subjugate those (Homo sapiens like us) with weaker technology. Ultimately these "aliens" will demand human worship.
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In reply to Sid Farkas • 1:49p, 7/21/23
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Project blue beam says hi
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In reply to NPH- • 1:54p, 7/21/23
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NPH- said:
The Chicken Ranch said:
I think it is all a diversion from something sinister that is going on.


Demons


Fallen angels
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 2:01p, 7/21/23
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NPH- said:
The Chicken Ranch said:
I think it is all a diversion from something sinister that is going on.


Demons


Fallen angels

Ahriman?
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2:03p, 7/21/23
I'm expecting aliens to show up and tell us that it's critical that we vote Biden / Harris in '24.
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9:58p, 7/21/23
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Ive been a skeptic but ive kept my mind open because some of the smartest physicists and engineers i've ever met, guys who worked on underground nukes and nuke powered airplanes in the 50's told me flat out that we were reverse engineering alien tech, together with undeniable evidence i've seen of inexplicable events tells me that you cannot really know the universe.

Just to read and contemplate heisenberg is enough.

So who knows.
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In reply to BudFox7 • 7:03a, 7/22/23
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Just an Ag said:
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I have been an extreme skeptic on this topic for 99% of my life. The abundance of disclosure and whistle blowing and attention this is getting, particularly over the last 12 months or so, has convinced me that *something* is going on. What, I don't know. Aliens? Still very difficult for me to get on board with.

It's all very confusing and I don't know what to make of it honestly. You'd think the Pentagon releasing footage and publicly announcing the now undeniable existence of UAP's would be front page earth shattering news. The biggest news story maybe ever in history, yet it met with 'meh.'

I'm stumped.

I agree with your take. I love a good Aliens discussion. But as intriguing as it sounds, it is not real. Aliens may exist somewhere, but they are not here on planet Earth, and I'll go as far to say they will never be here (and we will never travel to where they are, either). You need to come up with some real fantasy sci-fi assumptions to make it work regarding physics, and our proximity in the vastness of space to said aliens for our paths to ever cross with them. I'm not even close to believing we will ever interact with space aliens.

I am also mildly curious why it is being tossed about so much lately, but I do not believe it has anything to do with preparing the world for some earth-shattering news about alien visitors. Caveat - my deadset assuredness that this is baloney could be an indicator the opposite is true!


This is silly.
200 years ago the petroleum industry didn't exist.
2,000 our biggest power source was wind
200,000 years ago we were dumb hairy creatures chunking rocks

What a civilization is capable of 500 to 1,000,000 years ahead of our current development is hardly fathomable.
Hold on to the dream of ever meeting up with your advanced alien civilization, Bud, and may the force be with you.
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10:49a, 7/22/23
Marine infantryman (2nd Bn/ 5th Marines) describes a humanitarian operation in Indonesia in 2009 post-earthquake in which humans were trafficked and transported via a highly advanced octagonal shaped UAP approximately 100 meters in length/width accompanied by what appeared to be private or corporate paramilitary elements which actually detained his stick at gunpoint until they completed evacuation of the abductees.
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In reply to UTExan • 11:11a, 7/22/23
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Pretty interesting episode. One thing these guys in this field always do is take personal experiences and layer ontop massive assumptions. Dr greer is so bad at it I can't stand listening to him. But In this case this guy goes into experience and then adds they were trafficking humans which is an assumption on his part. He didn't personally witness that.
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3:15p, 7/24/23
https://instagr.am/p/Ct7HlPBAMJZ

Probably aliens in that semi.

If they ain't that what I would expect it to look like.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 3:42p, 7/24/23
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Probably a nuke
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4:05p, 7/24/23
It's 13 months ago, what difference does it make..
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 5:00p, 7/24/23
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Probably a nuke
I would 100% be willing to bet that's exactly what that was.
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12:03a, 7/26/23
https://instagr.am/p/CvG5o-sgYMY
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 10:34a, 7/26/23
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https://www.congress.gov/amendment/118th-congress/senate-amendment/797/text?fbclid=IwAR1V5VTaAn2j6Jn3NUagNF8eaEN4KpTs-lT-ve54LKzn4XPk7c2j4OlnGvA
Back from a 7 day forced stint in the cyber wilderness due to posting this link evidently?

You guys are pretty sharp....thoughts on why that occurred? Your guess is as good as mine on this.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 10:41a, 7/26/23
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Probably a nuke
Concur, seen it a few times before
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1:01p, 7/26/23
So now a that high ranking former military/intelligence official has claimed we have "exotic..not of this planet- materials and vehicles".....where do we go from here?

I think 3 very important questions need to be asked and answered. Hopefully honestly.

Who initiated the original lie about Roswell?

Who has been responsible for its maintenance?

Why?

Here is a link to today's congressional hearing:

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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1:13p, 7/26/23
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https://instagr.am/p/CvKuK7yroOl
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1:15p, 7/26/23
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What is disclosure? Seriously.

Here we are.

Disclosure is primarily a process, and less an event. I've said this since shortly after sign-up (Spring 1999, Blocker computer lab).

Extra-terrestrial entities exist, exactly like I've stated here for 24 years.
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In reply to Redstone • 3:22p, 7/26/23
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What is disclosure? Seriously.

Here we are.

Disclosure is primarily a process, and less an event. I've said this since shortly after sign-up (Spring 1999, Blocker computer lab).

Extra-terrestrial entities exist, exactly like I've stated here for 24 years.
It's clearly not the President stepping up and saying, yep we ain't alone. Although many are waiting for him to give them permission. The hearing was more confirmation IMO. Needs to go much further though. The topic of murders being involved in maintaining this lie needs to be investigated and brought to light. Those involved need to pay the price. Those who are involved in the back-engineering of the recovered craft as well should be indentified. Any progress/results must be made public.

IF transparency is legitimately a desired outcome, then the origin of the cover-up should be addressed. Who made the call back in 1947? Why was the original story allowed to be released, only to be retracted the following day? Why has it been so critical to risk lying to the American people to keep this under wraps? Pull off the band aid. Nobody trusts this gov. By doing this, perhaps some measure of trust can be established. It must happen for us to properly develop as a civilization. The world is watching and I suspect now many other countries now have the green light. Other civilizations are watching as well.

Amazing time to be alive. Good to be back on the board..
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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3:30p, 7/26/23
The wildest part is that folks have been researching this issue for decades. Maybe even their whole lives.

Now that they come out with some organized disclosure a lot of folks are thinking wait a minute, I don't believe a word these mfers say.

So it's a catch 22.

Don't believe them when they don't say something, and now that they said something, got a had time believing them on that basis.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 4:47p, 7/26/23
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The wildest part is that folks have been researching this issue for decades. Maybe even their whole lives.

Now that they come out with some organized disclosure a lot of folks are thinking wait a minute, I don't believe a word these mfers say.

So it's a catch 22.

Don't believe them when they don't say something, and now that they said something, got a had time believing them on that basis.
A popular, well known US President was erased.... He wanted to bring this out to the American people.

That's just how intensely maintained the cover-up has been. We've got some real azzholes running this planet...
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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4:54p, 7/26/23
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There are no ET.

Something else is going on. This is just a distraction to divert attention away from the real issue.
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In reply to AggieDruggist89 • 8:19p, 7/26/23
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There are no ET.

Something else is going on. This is just a distraction to divert attention away from the real issue.
Fascinating. That IS one conspiracy theory that will prove to be bogus IMO. You will hear all kinds of wild explanations for something that is not all the difficult to believe. We have all been the target of our gov deception program. - "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -William Casey, CIA director, 1981/ "Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960. Trust the data.

Simply visitors from other star systems. Perhaps billions of years ahead of us on the evolutionary voyage. Cultures going back to the dawn of time mention star people, sky people, gods, demons, angels. All et, not distractions.

But, as the OP of this 4 year old thread, I give you Richard Dolan's take on today's deal. He was the subject source of the original video here.


"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 9:19p, 7/26/23
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
The wildest part is that folks have been researching this issue for decades. Maybe even their whole lives.

Now that they come out with some organized disclosure a lot of folks are thinking wait a minute, I don't believe a word these mfers say.

So it's a catch 22.

Don't believe them when they don't say something, and now that they said something, got a had time believing them on that basis.

I am a huge skeptic, and I actually think this hearing was legit. It could not have happened 20 years ago. But if there are illegal black programs being hidden from congressional oversight, the evolution of digital information particularly in the last 10 years made it inevitable that they would eventually come to light.

I think David Brusch is maybe the first truly legit government whistleblower we've ever seen on this subject. I listened to the whole hearing, and l believe the dude has just had it with the secrecy and is very pissed. It sounds like he saw enough of his colleagues get retaliated against and finally decided enough is enough. You could hear in his voice many times that he was talking directly at the people in the intelligence community who he knows are criminals. He straight up said they have physically harmed people (and insinuated that they have killed people), destroyed people's military careers, and illegally misappropriated untold billions of dollars to keep these program secret. He swore under oath that he knows the locations of the aircraft, he knows the intelligence branches and programs housing these illegal projects, he knows precise names of the people involved in the programs and which ones are hostile and friendly to Congress, and he knows exact details on how they funnel budget dollars to the programs without oversight. He said repeatedly that he will give all of those details in a classified hearing. That does not sound like part of a government psy op to me. He legit needs U.S. Marshal protection 24/7 until that classified hearing can occur.

The two pilots, I'm not sure how you can do anything other than believe them 100%. There is literally no basis to discredit a single thing they said.
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9:33p, 7/26/23
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the evolution of digital information particularly in the last 10 years made it inevitable that they would eventually come to light.
You make a good point. They might realize that with everyone having a phone in their pocket its a matter of time before there's indisputable evidence in 4K that comes to light.

And also the pilot interviews. I've listened to all of that and if each man is the judge of credibility, these guys are that good or I couldn't find a hole in their eyewitness accounts.

So who knows what we likely to see.

'Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic' is right.

It's a wild time to be alive.
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7:55p, 7/27/23
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"A wrap-up of the astonishing Congressional Oversight Committee UAP Hearing, 26th July ,2023. In the words of of one Congressman - "We made history here" I talk with Steve Bassett , Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group who has campaigned for three decades on this issue - Steve was at the Hearing, in Washington DC. What happens next? We get Steve's overview.."

https://theunexplained.tv/episodes/edition-743-uap-hearing-260723
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8:46p, 7/27/23
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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