Is UFO Secrecy Crumbling?

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9:47p, 8/8/23
The gatekeepers are digging a very deep dark hole to fall into...




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"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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9:56p, 8/8/23
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Welp just had a UFO experience. I have no idea what I just saw. I have a crummy video. Saw on the hoorizon a very straight line of dots. Was immediately perplexed and it got closer. The iPhone did the 3 second delay to get light so it's blurry. The video shows the individual lights better. Perfect line tbe entire time with a light beam connecting the light dots. Ran outside to get a better video and they were gone. Never heard a noise from this either. Can hear planes and helicopters pretty far away normally.








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10:04p, 8/8/23
Perhaps this was the star link satellite array?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 10:06p, 8/8/23
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Is that what it looks like? I have no idea. I'm open to answers. Ya quick search seems to be it. False alarm.

https://satellitemap.space/starlink/launches/99.html

Looks like some were in fact launched a little while
Ago. Surprised to see them here in Texas when launched from California
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 10:34p, 8/8/23
You'd think all these ufo enthusiast would have heard of spaceX before.
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10:54p, 8/8/23
Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? And the reported murders committed in order to maintain the secrecy? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk becoming the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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11:38p, 8/8/23
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Bruhs...watch it all. Hollywood Max knows!!!


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11:49p, 8/8/23
Yup, its good the stigma is slowly eroding. It's a VERY important to have conversations about the reality.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 12:05a, 8/9/23
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Welp just had a UFO experience. I have no idea what I just saw. I have a crummy video. Saw on the hoorizon a very straight line of dots. Was immediately perplexed and it got closer. The iPhone did the 3 second delay to get light so it's blurry. The video shows the individual lights better. Perfect line tbe entire time with a light beam connecting the light dots. Ran outside to get a better video and they were gone. Never heard a noise from this either. Can hear planes and helicopters pretty far away normally.








Probably something breaking up on reentry. No idea if anything was due to come down, but that's what it looks like.
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In reply to G Martin 87 • 8:05a, 8/9/23
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Welp just had a UFO experience. I have no idea what I just saw. I have a crummy video. Saw on the hoorizon a very straight line of dots. Was immediately perplexed and it got closer. The iPhone did the 3 second delay to get light so it's blurry. The video shows the individual lights better. Perfect line tbe entire time with a light beam connecting the light dots. Ran outside to get a better video and they were gone. Never heard a noise from this either. Can hear planes and helicopters pretty far away normally.








Probably something breaking up on reentry. No idea if anything was due to come down, but that's what it looks like.


Those are Starlink satellites.
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In reply to TKEAg04 • 8:26a, 8/9/23
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Pretty cool to see out in the country without all the light noise, crazy how straight they look in the sky
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 8:35a, 8/9/23
Yukon Cornelius said:
Welp just had a UFO experience. I have no idea what I just saw. I have a crummy video. Saw on the hoorizon a very straight line of dots. Was immediately perplexed and it got closer. The iPhone did the 3 second delay to get light so it's blurry. The video shows the individual lights better. Perfect line tbe entire time with a light beam connecting the light dots. Ran outside to get a better video and they were gone. Never heard a noise from this either. Can hear planes and helicopters pretty far away normally.








Saw them moving towards the southeast as I was driving from New Braunfels to Canyon Lake last night. As others have said, I assumed it was Star Link.

When I got home last night, I told my wife the exact same thing that you said there. She just rolled her eyes at me.
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In reply to Based Hiker • 8:40a, 8/9/23
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Awesome! It was very cool to see and perplexing. Kind of nice to learn what it was instead of left in the mystery of it.
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2:24p, 8/9/23
Good thing David was prepared for the inevitable....

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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3:01p, 8/9/23
What is going on in Peru right now? Is this all a false flag, or a battle brewing. Some of that video is pretty disgusting
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In reply to Based Hiker • 3:09p, 8/9/23
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What video?
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3:14p, 8/9/23
Ditto...what video? Something sorta similar occurred in Brazil back in the '90s:

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Based Hiker • 3:17p, 8/9/23
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CanyonLakeAgbu said:
What is going on in Peru right now? Is this all a false flag, or a battle brewing. Some of that video is pretty disgusting
Peru info

Not much on it and horrible pictures
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3:18p, 8/9/23
The disgusting video was soldiers pulling a body out of a river in Peru. The skin was missing from the top of the scalp down to the throat.

Saw other video of apparent aliens. Kind of looked like the whole Vegas events from a few weeks ago.
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3:20p, 8/9/23
Interesting...et is clearly in the news now. Meh...little green men lol n weather balloons..

SECRECY is fighting back hard.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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3:26p, 8/9/23
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Aztec-- I applaud your continued faith in this, but how many nothingburgers do you need to eat before you get your fill?
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In reply to NPH- • 3:47p, 8/9/23
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Aztec-- I applaud your continued faith in this, but how many nothingburgers do you need to eat before you get your fill?
Patience....confirmation is coming IMO. I know the masses are seeking permission to believe. If you think David's testimony and the other whistleblowers coming forth are nothingburgers...we do live on different planets. LOL

What else is there to dine on? Covid this covid that? Biden this biden that? Trumparama? This one transcends all that and is worthy of being at the table. The dots have become dashes at this point...the straight line? Do you honestly want to know the truth?

Thats a long-winded ramble...the short answer: the belly is still somewhat empty; the appetite is enormous. People's reaction to this are as fascinating as the reality itself. Hard to get enough..

I did find this video of Brazil's "event" or non-event. Something is going to happen where the most skeptical will realize. Or simply loose it trying to wrap their heads around reality. SECRECY is fighting back hard...

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 4:52p, 8/9/23
Aztec1948 said:
NPH- said:
Aztec-- I applaud your continued faith in this, but how many nothingburgers do you need to eat before you get your fill?
Patience....confirmation is coming IMO. I know the masses are seeking permission to believe. If you think David's testimony and the other whistleblowers coming forth are nothingburgers...we do live on different planets. LOL

What else is there to dine on? Covid this covid that? Biden this biden that? Trumparama? This one transcends all that and is worthy of being at the table. The dots have become dashes at this point...the straight line? Do you honestly want to know the truth?

Thats a long-winded ramble...the short answer: the belly is still somewhat empty; the appetite is enormous. People's reaction to this are as fascinating as the reality itself. Hard to get enough..

I did find this video of Brazil's "event" or non-event. Something is going to happen where the most skeptical will realize. Or simply loose it trying to wrap their heads around reality. SECRECY is fighting back hard...

This to me is the crux of the whole disconnect and why both sides sometimes seem to talk past each other like we're using different languages.

I have no interest in believing. None. I'm interested in knowledge.

So much of the UFO community only talks that way as though that's the highest form of confidence. "I want to believe", "What would it take for you to believe?", "He's a fellow believer", etc.

It's all meaningless to someone who cares about actual knowledge. And it's why believers can't understand when we say we haven't seen any solid evidence, because "What do you mean? Didn't you hear about what that guy said he saw?" and "Haven't you ever seen a light in the sky and couldn't tell what it was?"

It's not that complicated of a distinction but it's huge. Do you believe there are dogs on this planet, or do you know there are dogs on this planet? You'd sound like an idiot to a normal person if you even said "I believe in dogs." You see what I mean?

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Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 6:32p, 8/9/23
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
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In reply to Joes • 6:56p, 8/9/23
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
Joe, there's no doubt in my mind concerning this reality. I crossed the Rubicon about 6 years ago. Then there after started this thread. I've only seen/read things that have bolstered that belief. But that is just a start...

I don't any of us thought the Pentagon was going to roll out an et and craft for show and tell.

Enjoy the ride man. It could get bumpy. But we will all be better off for knowing the truth.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 7:12p, 8/9/23
Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
Joe, there's no doubt in my mind concerning this reality. I crossed the Rubicon about 6 years ago. Then there after started this thread. I've only seen/read things that have bolstered that belief. But that is just a start...

I don't any of us thought the Pentagon was going to roll out an et and craft for show and tell.

Enjoy the ride man. It could get bumpy. But we will all be better off for knowing the truth.
I appreciate that, and I'm dead serious when I say that I would be as wrapped up as any of you if something tangible comes of this, but it would have to be real. So we'll see. It certainly doesn't hurt me any to just allow things to happen for a while and watch.
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In reply to Joes • 7:19p, 8/9/23
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
Joe, there's no doubt in my mind concerning this reality. I crossed the Rubicon about 6 years ago. Then there after started this thread. I've only seen/read things that have bolstered that belief. But that is just a start...

I don't any of us thought the Pentagon was going to roll out an et and craft for show and tell.

Enjoy the ride man. It could get bumpy. But we will all be better off for knowing the truth.
I appreciate that, and I'm dead serious when I say that I would be as wrapped up as any of you if something tangible comes of this, but it would have to be real. So we'll see. It certainly doesn't hurt me any to just allow things to happen for a while and watch.
Joe, there is so, so much more to the reality than "this". From the pyramids to the "miracle at Fatima"... I to want to see something for confirmation. As much for me and especially for others who haven't gone down the rabbit hole. There are forces out there who are very much opposed to this coming out. Peoples lives have been taken..
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
Joe, there's no doubt in my mind concerning this reality. I crossed the Rubicon about 6 years ago. Then there after started this thread. I've only seen/read things that have bolstered that belief. But that is just a start...

I don't any of us thought the Pentagon was going to roll out an et and craft for show and tell.

Enjoy the ride man. It could get bumpy. But we will all be better off for knowing the truth.
I appreciate that, and I'm dead serious when I say that I would be as wrapped up as any of you if something tangible comes of this, but it would have to be real. So we'll see. It certainly doesn't hurt me any to just allow things to happen for a while and watch.
Joe, there is so, so much more to the reality than "this". From the pyramids to the "miracle at Fatima"... I to want to see something for confirmation. As much for me and especially for others who haven't gone down the rabbit hole. There are forces out there who are very much opposed to this coming out. Peoples lives have been taken..
If nothing else I have to say I respect your passion and commitment.
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In reply to Joes • 9:11p, 8/9/23
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:
Joes said:
Aztec1948 said:


Some folks are waking up...

Others, not so much. The knowledge is there for the viewing.
Yeah, I had already watched that. When asked about evidence his answer was literally that he believes the guy who talked to other guys who say they've seen stuff. And to you this somehow adds compelling weight.
Joe, there's no doubt in my mind concerning this reality. I crossed the Rubicon about 6 years ago. Then there after started this thread. I've only seen/read things that have bolstered that belief. But that is just a start...

I don't any of us thought the Pentagon was going to roll out an et and craft for show and tell.

Enjoy the ride man. It could get bumpy. But we will all be better off for knowing the truth.
I appreciate that, and I'm dead serious when I say that I would be as wrapped up as any of you if something tangible comes of this, but it would have to be real. So we'll see. It certainly doesn't hurt me any to just allow things to happen for a while and watch.
Joe, there is so, so much more to the reality than "this". From the pyramids to the "miracle at Fatima"... I to want to see something for confirmation. As much for me and especially for others who haven't gone down the rabbit hole. There are forces out there who are very much opposed to this coming out. Peoples lives have been taken..
If nothing else I have to say I respect your passion and commitment.
Yes, this is the most important story/issue ever for humanity. We should not be afraid to discuss/present it. I will certainly hold up my end of the conversation. People's reactions to the reality are maybe more fascinating than the issue itself. And that's saying quite a bit IMO.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 9:56p, 8/9/23
FYI Aztec: The tic tac UFO is USA technology. You can take that off your plate.
Following your updates, but still only believe what we are seeing are God made and not of our realm of understanding or Starlink or swamp gas or aurora borealis or booze & drug induced visions or crazy people lies or natives being scared of jokester in green goblin costume.
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In reply to TRADUCTOR • 10:02p, 8/9/23
TRADUCTOR said:
FYI Aztec: The tic tac UFO is USA technology. You can take that off your plate.
Following your updates, but still only believe what we are seeing are God made and not of our realm of understanding or Starlink or swamp gas or aurora borealis or booze & drug induced visions or crazy people lies or natives being scared of jokester in green goblin costume.
Plate? I've seen folk speculate exactly what you say. Who told you it was our tech? Most of the testimonies I've heard/read say it is not our tech. I think it could be. But, I also believe I know where that tech had it's origins if true. Is there anything about the et reality that makes you uncomfortable? Not sure about the other stuff you mention...but that might be telling as well.

hang in there...we will be better off knowing the truth

edit: just realized there was a video pretty much suggesting we do have craft...supporting the idea that the tic tac could be "ours"...this guy appeared before the hearing:


"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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12:17a, 8/10/23
Here is some data collected dealing with the 2004 Tic tac event. One of the pilots is described as having a squid-like head....which leads me to think these craft were not ours. Which makes sense as the event took place over the Pacific.


"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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In reply to Aztec1948 • 12:32a, 8/10/23
Aztec1948 said:
TRADUCTOR said:
FYI Aztec: The tic tac UFO is USA technology. You can take that off your plate.
Following your updates, but still only believe what we are seeing are God made and not of our realm of understanding or Starlink or swamp gas or aurora borealis or booze & drug induced visions or crazy people lies or natives being scared of jokester in green goblin costume.
Plate? I've seen folk speculate exactly what you say. Who told you it was our tech? Most of the testimonies I've heard/read say it is not our tech. I think it could be. But, I also believe I know where that tech had it's origins if true. Is there anything about the et reality that makes you uncomfortable? Not sure about the other stuff you mention...but that might be telling as well.

hang in there...we will be better off knowing the truth

edit: just realized there was a video pretty much suggesting we do have craft...supporting the idea that the tic tac could be "ours"...this guy appeared before the hearing:



Shawn Ryan's podcast is garbage. He lets anybody on there to spew ridiculous garbage and never challenges any of it. I watched an episode where some crazy guy claiming to be a plumber at a secret Antarctica facility was saying there is an earthquake weapon down there buried in the ice that has been used to cause earthquakes. Shawn was just like "Wow, really? There's an earthquake weapon? Wow, that's so crazy. And they used it to make earthquakes? Wow, that's so crazy. This is all definitely true." The episode you posted is more of the same. Just garbage.
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