BG Knocc Out said:

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KidDoc said:

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TCTTS said:

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CoolAggie said:

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This season is good (better than 2 or 3), unfortunately, it does not have an Alexandra Daddario.

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Time to introduce a little chaos and say that...

Michelle Monaghan > Alexandra Daddario

For me at least.

I totally get Marty's "Why not both?" approach, but if I had already landed Monaghan I couldn't imagine for a second A) not being fulfilled, and B) risking it all for Daddario. Daddario has *a* package, to be sure, but Monaghan is the complete package, and absolute dream scenario wife material.

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On our recent rewatch of S1 my wife mentioned that Woody really outkicks his coverage on that show. I noticed he was an exec producer so of I figured that was part of his contract that he got to make out with the hottest actresses available at the time.

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Haha no doubt.

Funny story...my wife was standing near a luggage carousel by herself as a recent t.u. college grad in the early 2000's at Austin-Bergstrom when she looked over and noticed Woody Harrelson and some lady peepin her from a distance a carousel or two over.

A few minutes later she decided to smoke a cigarette outside while waiting for a friend to pick her up and the British lady who was hangin with Woody asked if she could bum one...she was under the impression this lady worked for Woody in some capacity. They talked for a bit and I believe the lady casually mentioned that Woody thought she was attractive. A few minutes later, Woody came outside and the lady went back to hang with him on the sidewalk and my wife looked over and saw them both kind of looking and pointing at her.

She decided to be brave and go talk to him and tell him she was a fan. Said he was very polite but definitely had had a few cocktails and definitely seemed interested in her. Fast fwd to 2008 and he marries an Asian woman. My wife still jokingly takes credit for him coming down with "yellow fever".

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Haha, that's great!

BG Knocc Out said:

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KidDoc said:

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TCTTS said:

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CoolAggie said:

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This season is good (better than 2 or 3), unfortunately, it does not have an Alexandra Daddario.

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Time to introduce a little chaos and say that...

Michelle Monaghan > Alexandra Daddario

For me at least.

I totally get Marty's "Why not both?" approach, but if I had already landed Monaghan I couldn't imagine for a second A) not being fulfilled, and B) risking it all for Daddario. Daddario has *a* package, to be sure, but Monaghan is the complete package, and absolute dream scenario wife material.

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On our recent rewatch of S1 my wife mentioned that Woody really outkicks his coverage on that show. I noticed he was an exec producer so of I figured that was part of his contract that he got to make out with the hottest actresses available at the time.

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Haha no doubt.

Funny story...my wife was standing near a luggage carousel by herself as a recent t.u. college grad in the early 2000's at Austin-Bergstrom when she looked over and noticed Woody Harrelson and some lady peepin her from a distance a carousel or two over.

A few minutes later she decided to smoke a cigarette outside while waiting for a friend to pick her up and the British lady who was hangin with Woody asked if she could bum one...she was under the impression this lady worked for Woody in some capacity. They talked for a bit and I believe the lady casually mentioned that Woody thought she was attractive. A few minutes later, Woody came outside and the lady went back to hang with him on the sidewalk and my wife looked over and saw them both kind of looking and pointing at her.

She decided to be brave and go talk to him and tell him she was a fan. Said he was very polite but definitely had had a few cocktails and definitely seemed interested in her. Fast fwd to 2008 and he marries an Asian woman. My wife still jokingly takes credit for him coming down with "yellow fever".

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Sounds like you got yada yada-ed.

Mike Elko said:

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BG Knocc Out said:

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KidDoc said:

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TCTTS said:

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CoolAggie said:

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This season is good (better than 2 or 3), unfortunately, it does not have an Alexandra Daddario.

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Time to introduce a little chaos and say that...

Michelle Monaghan > Alexandra Daddario

For me at least.

I totally get Marty's "Why not both?" approach, but if I had already landed Monaghan I couldn't imagine for a second A) not being fulfilled, and B) risking it all for Daddario. Daddario has *a* package, to be sure, but Monaghan is the complete package, and absolute dream scenario wife material.

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On our recent rewatch of S1 my wife mentioned that Woody really outkicks his coverage on that show. I noticed he was an exec producer so of I figured that was part of his contract that he got to make out with the hottest actresses available at the time.

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Haha no doubt.

Funny story...my wife was standing near a luggage carousel by herself as a recent t.u. college grad in the early 2000's at Austin-Bergstrom when she looked over and noticed Woody Harrelson and some lady peepin her from a distance a carousel or two over.

A few minutes later she decided to smoke a cigarette outside while waiting for a friend to pick her up and the British lady who was hangin with Woody asked if she could bum one...she was under the impression this lady worked for Woody in some capacity. They talked for a bit and I believe the lady casually mentioned that Woody thought she was attractive. A few minutes later, Woody came outside and the lady went back to hang with him on the sidewalk and my wife looked over and saw them both kind of looking and pointing at her.

She decided to be brave and go talk to him and tell him she was a fan. Said he was very polite but definitely had had a few cocktails and definitely seemed interested in her. Fast fwd to 2008 and he marries an Asian woman. My wife still jokingly takes credit for him coming down with "yellow fever".

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Sounds like you got yada yada-ed.

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If that's implying what I think it's implying, it would be an honor to have Woody's sloppy seconds, through sickness and health, til death do us part. But unfortunately, her friend scooped her up and she never saw him again. I hope she's lying and we're Eskimo bros. Jk

Just finished rewatching season one.

This season feels like community theater.

1 is the greatest TV series of all time. Don't compare things to it or you'll be disappointed.

That being said, I hope they turn it up a notch for the last three episodes.

People need to stop comparing seasons. The show has the same name, but it is not the same show. When you start taking different seasons of shows that have different stories and plots, you'll end up disappointed 100% of the time.

Amen. Especially ten years later, after we've already done this twice before. We've long since known nothing will ever touch the first season or even come close. At this point, all I'm looking for is an intriguing murder mystery and some damaged detectives trying to solve it.

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Amen. Especially ten years later, after we've already done this twice before. We've long since known nothing will ever touch the first season or even come close. At this point, all I'm looking for is an intriguing murder mystery and some damaged detectives trying to solve it.

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Some people look for ways to be miserable.

IMO...

Episode 1 = decent / intriguing setup
Episode 2 = one of the best episodes of TV I've seen in a while
Episode 3 = pretty bad / boring

Anyone who says the season so far is really, really bad doesn't know what they're talking about, but I'd also say 91% is too high. As of now I'd say high 70s/low 80s.

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Also, I'm a little surprised that we are halfway through and there really hasn't been much speculation on what is going on.

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Because it's difficult to care about it imo. The case feels secondary to whatever it is the director is trying to do with the character arcs.

Bunk Moreland said:

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BowSowy said:

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Also, I'm a little surprised that we are halfway through and there really hasn't been much speculation on what is going on.

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Because it's difficult to care about it imo. The case feels secondary to whatever it is the director is trying to do with the character arcs.

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That's kind of True Detective's thing, though? One of the few things all the seasons have in common is a heavy emphasis on character development and interpersonal relationships that often overshadow the case. Heck, I can't remember much about the actual villain or crimes in S1, but I can talk all about the random conversations the characters had while driving in cars.

S1, where all the famous quotes come from the characters discussing a bunch of philosophical jibberish.
S2, which involved a group of very uncomplicated and damaged cops working on a case.
S3, involving two guys from conflicting backgrounds trying to reconcile their upbringings, while one of them slowly loses it to Alzheimer's.

If you think about it, the cases are always a backdrop to a character study. Pacing is always slow. That's a benefit you have in a long-form series. What True Detective does a bit differently than most is that you don't always like that development, which has always felt more real than other crime series.

Welp, I'm gonna need to watch an episode of Seinfeld before going to bed. I'm shook, lol. That was dark and frightening even by True Detective standards.

Also, glad to see my oranges theory was correct.

I have a bad feeling her guy friend is going to get diced when someone finds that rock in his home OR he's going to accidentally figure something out, because he seems good at tracking crap down.

This show is bleak, depressing, repetitive, and a little boring. To be honest I'm just waiting for it to end at this point.

Once again, it feels like they had three episodes of story and they stretched it out to six. There were at least three scenes that were the exact same beats we got in earlier episodes. (Danvers and her boss, the crazy sister, Danvers' daughter graffiti'ng the mine, etc) Also, someone tell me what the hell the online scam storyline added to the show. Totally unnecessary filler.

It started out really promising, but took a nosedive in episode three and it just continued the trend tonight. Disappointed in this show, but it's too late to quit now.

Ep 4 leaves us hanging at the end but I'd say 80% of that episode was pretty boring

I've been hanging on, giving this season the benefit of the doubt every chance I could, but episode four finally broke me.

Just utter, repetitive nothingness. Masked by a solid soundtrack that made it feel far more "prestige" than it actually was.

In any other even halfway effective detective show/murder mystery, with a killer on the loose, there's a palpable threat that he or she is going to strike again, until they *do* strike again, thus upping the stakes, causing that ticking clock to tick louder and louder.

Here? We get an opening set of murders… and then nothing but uninteresting melodrama, rooted in unending background exposition, for four straight episodes. Which worked surprisingly well for the first couple of episodes, but to then give us two episodes beyond that of these people doing little more than tending to rote family drama and driving around in the snow, with minimal detective work in the fringes, on a case that seems to pose no tangible threat to the here and now… no thanks.

Every once in a blue moon, giving one of these shows to an inexperienced showrunner works - as it did with season one - but the vast majority of the time the results are boring at best, disastrous at worst, and Issa Lopez falls right in between the latter two. She should have either never been given so much authority, or HBO should have done a way better job supporting/noting her, because this just isn't it.

I'll finish the season/next two episodes out of morbid curiosity, but man, what a let down. Not even in comparison to past True Detective seasons, but detective shows in general.

With a gummy and a cocktail The Weather Channel could be riveting. This show just sucks the life out of entertainment.

It's 58 minutes of backstory with 2 minutes at the end focused on the case. I know the previous seasons of TD were majority character focused, but I don't remember the case taking this much of a backseat.

It also doesn't help that I haven't found a character to care about

The entire series as a whole outside of S1 has been underwhelming.

Acting has always been what's carried the show to it's better season(s?). I know most will disagree, but the S1 mystery wasn't really that great as far as detective stories go, but the great dialogue and monumental acting carried it to it's lofty status as one of the best seasons of television. Replace MM or Woody Harrelson in that season and it's a Law and Order SVU special.

S2 had the acting chops, but the story was a mess and the dialogue and pacing was god awful.

S3 again with great acting from Ali and Dorff. Pacing was bad, story was mediocre.

S4 the pacing again has been terribly bad, but the dialogue and acting isn't there to carry it. I like Jodie Foster. She is/was a great actress that has done some great roles, but this isn't one of them. Just lazy writing in many aspects as well. Last episode we got the "I need this information from you." "Ok, to get this information tell us about your mom.". Lazy exposition. Even the random scene at the ice rink when the dad gives the skates to his son. "Son get up I need to show you something."... Son gets up from desk so they can stand a foot away to frame the shot.

They live in a frozen tundra full of substance abuse but they need a vet from another town to explain to them what people that freeze to death look like?

So far this isn't even reaching the bar of a good X-Files episode. This is one of those series that gets the hype-train every year from the industry. Feels like the studio/industry pushes it with high praise, but something somewhat under the radar like Mare of Easttown winds up being significantly better than any True Detective since S1.

Navarro's side piece is the only character I would be rooting for