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rtpAggie said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

rtpAggie said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

If you can suspend disbelief that there are zombies, why can't you suspend disbelief that there is a woman in charge?


because while its a zombie show, the point of most shows is to show how people would realistically act in a non realistic scenario.

this isnt hard to understand.
Oh...so you're ok with Zombies wiping out most of the world, but bristle at a woman being in charge because it's not realistic.




did you read what I said?

of course the zombies are unrealistic. no *****

but how the world handles them would not be with women barking orders and militant dudes just being like "yes ma'am whatever you say!"


Yeah, you're right. I guess your suspension of disbelief is caught up in some sort of overload. Nothing in this show to me has any semblance of realism so I'm open to what they give me.

You edited when I was posting....

I'm not trying to be a hero, i'm trying to point out how stupid your inability to suspend disbelief is when you're picking and choosing which things to suspend disbelief on.
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It's just the fact that you feel that you HAVE to complain about this kind sh*t day in and day out, on thread after thread after thread. Always the most mindless, inconsequential nonsense that NEVER amounts to the level of vitriol your giving it. In this particular instance, yes, you're technically right that a woman likely wouldn't be in charge in this scenario. But you choose to express your disdain in the most aggrieved/offended way possible, same as you do when you turn every last thread into your personal soapbox about why X, Y, or Z doesn't meet whatever archaic view you have. There's a way to express your opinions via mature, constructive criticism that doesn't constantly derail threads… and then there's whatever the hell you do.
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My options now are the spoiler thread, or a big glass of wine with horse tranqs.
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
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TCTTS said:

It's just the fact that you feel that you HAVE to complain about this kind sh*t day in and day out, on thread after thread after thread. Always the most mindless, inconsequential nonsense that NEVER amounts to the level of vitriol your giving it. In this particular instance, yes, you're technically right that a woman likely wouldn't be in charge in this scenario. But you choose to express your disdain in the most aggrieved/offended way possible, same as you do when you turn every last thread into your personal soapbox about why X, Y, or Z doesn't meet whatever archaic view you have. There's a way to express your opinions via mature, constructive criticism that doesn't constantly derail threads… and then there's whatever the hell you do.

LOL.. coming from you.
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TCTTS said:

It's just the fact that you feel that you HAVE to complain about this kind sh*t day in and day out, on thread after thread after thread. Always the most mindless, inconsequential nonsense that NEVER amounts to the level of vitriol your giving it. In this particular instance, yes, you're technically right that a woman likely wouldn't be in charge in this scenario. But you choose to express your disdain in the most aggrieved/offended way possible, same as you do when you turn every last thread into your personal soapbox about why X, Y, or Z doesn't meet whatever archaic view you have. There's a way to express your opinions via mature, constructive criticism that doesn't constantly derail threads… and then there's whatever the hell you do.

then why do you always engage?
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aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
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Just quit responding to guys like aTmAg or rptAgie
TCTTS
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I go out of my way not to engage with him. That was one of the only times in months that I've directly replied to him.
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
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aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
since men are so strong and such, ALL zombies would be women! I mean, how could someone as strong a man become infected? They should be able to physically fight off any women zombies, and their immune systems would obviously be far superior enough to fight off any infection. And for that matter, its terribly unrealistic that Ellie, a female, would be the one who is immune. This show is so unrealistic. I'm done with it.
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lol i just thought Melanie Lynskey wasn't the best choice for this role and of course the discussion became about 'women in charge'
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.


At this point, it doesn't matter if it's the right show for him or not. It's become a crusade generator for him now, and he won't let that go. Like a fungus, he goes from thread to thread doing this exact thing. It's his only purpose on this board; to let us know he disapproves. Of what, it doesn't matter. It never matters. He simply has a compulsion - what he thinks is a mission - to express his disapproval time and time again, on subject after subject. Something he's willingly and proudly admitted as much multiple times now.
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
All ask you.. is there ANY amount that would make you say something? What if she were 10 years old? Would you be silently enjoying the show saying "well if I can suspend enough to believe zombies, then I can believe in 10 year old warlords too!!!" Would you lap it up no matter what they threw at you?
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AggieOO said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
since men are so strong and such, ALL zombies would be women! I mean, how could someone as strong a man become infected? They should be able to physically fight off any women zombies, and their immune systems would obviously be far superior enough to fight off any infection. And for that matter, its terribly unrealistic that Ellie, a female, would be the one who is immune. This show is so unrealistic. I'm done with it.
That probably sounded really good in your head. Of course this doesn't match reality. American Indians (men and women) got wiped out from European diseases. But men were in charge of battle and hunts because of their physical superiority.
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M.C. Swag said:

lol i just thought Melanie Lynskey wasn't the best choice for this role and of course the discussion became about 'women in charge'
I had to look her up as she looked vaguely familliar. I only remember her from playing a paedophile in Perks of Being a WallFlower.

I wonder if the point was to have a soft looking woman in the role.

Would we be having this discussion of Terminator 2 Linda Hamilton was playing the role?

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Lol... this thread is hilarious. All the same arguments from both sides. Someone makes a criticism citing something the left-sided thinkers bristle up about, so those people attack the others and claim they are intolerable simply because they gave their opinion.

Personal attacks are then responded to because the left-sided thinkers can't believe others don't appreciate personal attacks. The people responding to the personal attacks are then accused of being trolls and being argumentative.

We even have the old adage, "it's just fiction, bro. Why can't you suspend belief?" Just about the most ridiculous argument to anything because it's basically conceding the point but saying it's okay because it's just a story. If that's the case, then you can't criticize anything about the story because it's just fiction.
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TCTTS said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.


At this point, it doesn't matter if it's the right show for him or not. It's become a crusade generator for him now, and he won't let that go. Like a fungus, he goes from thread to thread doing this exact thing. It's his only purpose on this board; to let us know he disapproves. Of what, it doesn't matter. It never matters. He simply has a compulsion - what he thinks is a mission - to express his disapproval time and time again, on subject after subject. Something he's willingly and proudly admitted as much multiple times now.
LOL.. from the guy who goes from thread to thread goaltending every decision Hollywood makes and trying to dictate what opinions are allowed.
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aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
All ask you.. is there ANY amount that would make you say something? What if she were 10 years old? Would you be silently enjoying the show saying "well if I can suspend enough to believe zombies, then I can believe in 10 year old warlords too!!!" Would you lap it up no matter what they threw at you?
I don't know, you tell me?

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Prophet00 said:


OH ****, you're right.
TCTTS
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Perfect.
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aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
who cares though? why nitpick? when you are saying "well ahkckshually..." for every "unrealistic" thing in the show it's just going to ruin the show for you.
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aTmAg said:

AggieOO said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
since men are so strong and such, ALL zombies would be women! I mean, how could someone as strong a man become infected? They should be able to physically fight off any women zombies, and their immune systems would obviously be far superior enough to fight off any infection. And for that matter, its terribly unrealistic that Ellie, a female, would be the one who is immune. This show is so unrealistic. I'm done with it.
That probably sounded really good in your head.
this is how you sound on every post. but you don't have the self-awareness to figure it out.

have a good one, no more replies to you.
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DallasTeleAg said:



We even have the old adage, "it's just fiction, bro. Why can't you suspend belief?" Just about the most ridiculous argument to anything because it's basically conceding the point but saying it's okay because it's just a story. If that's the case, then you can't criticize anything about the story because it's just fiction.
Dude, it's a story about zombies. There is absolutely no realism in the show. To pick and chose what you suspend disbelief on is just mental gymnastics.

And a criticism of an unrealistic show being unrealistic is just assinine.

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aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.


Ok that's great actually, cause if you think this is THAT bad I'm really looking forward to you not watching the show anymore and leaving this thread alone.
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So why did Kathleen shoot the doctor? I didnt fully understand that? Was she just mad and wanted to take out her anger on him? Thinks he had something to do with the deaths of her people?
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Chuck Cunningham said:

M.C. Swag said:

lol i just thought Melanie Lynskey wasn't the best choice for this role and of course the discussion became about 'women in charge'
I had to look her up as she looked vaguely familliar. I only remember her from playing a paedophile in Perks of Being a WallFlower.

I wonder if the point was to have a soft looking woman in the role.

Would we be having this discussion of Terminator 2 Linda Hamilton was playing the role?


Ya i only knew her from 2 and a Half Men lol so my basis wasn't much better. And ya, if I'm being honest, she doesn't have the 'physical presence' to support the role she's in. She is soft. From her voice to the way she walks/carries herself...like, I'm hardly a gun expert but even the way she threatened the Doctor with a gun seemed farcical. It has nothing to do with her being a woman, it's just about her playing this 'mustache twirling' ruthless villain that is just so absurd for the actor. There's no weight behind her. Like when she says "find the collaborators and kill them all" I wanted to laugh.

I never once doubted Marlene as the leader of the Fireflies. Or Tess as the alpha in Joel/smuggling operation. So to me, it has nothing to do with her gender, just her overall...aesthetic in contrast to the role.
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Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.
Just enjoy the show and stop thinking so much. It's not realistic. At all. If you can handle zombies, you should be able to handle a woman in charge. And if not, then perhaps this isn't the right show for you.
All ask you.. is there ANY amount that would make you say something? What if she were 10 years old? Would you be silently enjoying the show saying "well if I can suspend enough to believe zombies, then I can believe in 10 year old warlords too!!!" Would you lap it up no matter what they threw at you?
I don't know, you tell me?


Yeah, that was eye rolling too.
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I agree. Let's make all the characters purple with wings. And then let's populate the whole world with ten-foot tall jelly beans, and don't address any of it. Because... why not? It's just a story bro!
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barbacoa taco said:

So why did Kathleen shoot the doctor? I didnt fully understand that? Was she just mad and wanted to take out her anger on him? Thinks he had something to do with the deaths of her people?


I think she was just looking for a reason to finally shoot him and he wasn't needed in that situation bc the guy was already dead.

I think she acted out of emotion.
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barbacoa taco said:

So why did Kathleen shoot the doctor? I didnt fully understand that? Was she just mad and wanted to take out her anger on him? Thinks he had something to do with the deaths of her people?
I think she assumed that Joel and Ellie were mercs brought in by Henry. And she thought the doctor was hiding information about Henry.
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FancyKetchup14 said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

aTmAg said:

TCTTS said:

I'm so glad the next episode is airing two days early, because I can already feel the pathetic-woman-in-charge convo becoming the next grist for the outrage mill. At least it will be over by Friday instead of Sunday.
Maybe shows shouldn't put pathetic women in charge? Then people wouldn't be distracted by it? Imagine if they made it a 10 year old kid instead. Even YOU would be talking about how stupid it was.


I think your posting history *finally* makes sense, seeing as the only explanation is that you're posting from a computer you stole from your future and brought back to the 1950s with you.
Talk about being triggered.

Doesn't matter if we are talking 1200s, 1950s, 2020s, or 2200s. Women are weaker than men and are less suited for combat due to millions of years of evolution. It's nothing to do with "misogyny" You can't close your eyes and pretend that wasn't the case.
So, in terms of leadership where they're not actually doing any fighting, they're weaker than men? Because I've not seen her do any hand to hand combat or even carry heavy equipment.
But think about how people become leaders of self organizing militant groups. They don't get elected or selected by a president. They do so by proving themselves on the battlefield prior. From Genghis Kahn, John Coffee Hays, Quanah Parker, etc. All were selected by their peers by being badasses in the fight. Does anybody seriously think this person would be a badass in battle:




Please.
https://www.tckpublishing.com/suspension-of-disbelief/
There is only so much one can suspend before it becomes too much. This is every bit as bad than a 10 year old Anakin defeating an entire army by himself.


Ok that's great actually, cause if you think this is THAT bad I'm really looking forward to you not watching the show anymore and leaving this thread alone.
I watched the rest of the prequels. But am honest enough to admit that they still sucked.
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M.C. Swag said:

Chuck Cunningham said:

M.C. Swag said:

lol i just thought Melanie Lynskey wasn't the best choice for this role and of course the discussion became about 'women in charge'
I had to look her up as she looked vaguely familliar. I only remember her from playing a paedophile in Perks of Being a WallFlower.

I wonder if the point was to have a soft looking woman in the role.

Would we be having this discussion of Terminator 2 Linda Hamilton was playing the role?


Ya i only knew her from 2 and a Half Men lol so my basis wasn't much better. And ya, if I'm being honest, she doesn't have the 'physical presence' to support the role she's in. She is soft. From her voice to the way she walks/carries herself...like, I'm hardly a gun expert but even the way she threatened the Doctor with a gun seemed farcical. It has nothing to do with her being a woman, it's just about her playing this 'mustache twirling' ruthless villain that is just so absurd for the actor. There's no weight behind her. Like when she says "find the collaborators and kill them all" I wanted to laugh.

I never once doubted Marlene as the leader of the Fireflies. Or Tess as the alpha in Joel/smuggling operation. So to me, it has nothing to do with her gender, just her overall...aesthetic in contrast to the role.
THIS is how you make the argument.
 
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