AggieOO said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Zombie outbreak survival comes down to a few things.

1. How remote you are when the outbreak happens
2. How in shape you are, both physically and supply wise
3. If you are in good shape for the first two, how willing are you to shoot family members, friends, and neighbors who can't pass the first two options.

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this is exactly whey the world probably goes to the ****ter. A LOT of the good people die.

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aTmAg said:

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I would be screwed. I'm out of shape, don't know squat about hunting. I would probably be fodder for the zombies.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Zombie outbreak survival comes down to a few things.

1. How remote you are when the outbreak happens
2. How in shape you are, both physically and supply wise
3. If you are in good shape for the first two, how willing are you to shoot family members, friends, and neighbors who can't pass the first two options.

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Basically the implication of the show. Joel lost his daughter day one and was partnered with his adult brother. He was former military, could rely on another competent adult and was hardened by his daughter's death.

Ranking deadliness of zombie shows/movies:

- 28 days later - people turn in about 10 seconds and are crazy fast and murderous. Pretty sure no one survives this scenario.
-World War Z movie (nothing like book) - people turn in 10 seconds and are also crazy fast. Though I guess you can do the stupid virus camouflage trick to hide.
-Last of us - People turn pretty slowly (hours to days) but zombies are fast and violent. Some can live for 20+ years
- Walking dead- honestly it is a joke so many people died in this show. People take hours to turn and the zombies literally walk. Don't know how that would ever become a problem.

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AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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Chuck Cunningham said:

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aTmAg said:

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I think you guys are reading too much into it. Tons of shows have different setting as the show goes on. That doesn't mean they were following some sort of game level format.

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I've never played a video game like that one, but it seemed like a series of challenges to get to the next level. I definitely dnd't get that vibe in the first episode. And, it really doesn't matter.

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I haven't played any "narrative" games. I'm not sure how they work. Is it like watching a "movie with challenges"? In the other thread, they said that the scene with the burning house in episode 1 was just like the game. So was that a cut-scene? Or does the game player actually drive the truck around, and when they happen to drive past that house on fire, the passenger spontaneously says "oh there is Fred's house"? To me, it would be a lot more fun if it didn't lead you around scene to scene. If it felt like I was doing whatever I wanted and the story figured it out somehow. It would be cheesy if it's basically just watching a movie, and every once in a while the action pauses for you to do some challenge. Like you have to beat up that soldier at the end of episode 1 in order to move past that scene. Or you have to kill those clickers in the museum before you can move on. Could I just go another way and skip those clickers altogether?

This is not meant to invite video game spoilers. I was just wondering how the game works in a general sense. I don't want to go to the other thread, because I don't want to be spoiled.

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There are "Open World" games where you can just walk around and do whatever you want, and the story gets pieced together as you go. Something like Skyrim is a good example of that. TLOU is not that kind of game. It's very directed as A -> B -> C. However, that's not to say you don't have any freedom in the game. The game doesn't really have levels, but rather it has set pieces/scenes. And the scenes are strung together into a story. When you're in the scene, you often have pretty good freedom to do what you want. Sometimes you ultimately have to solve a puzzle to move forward, sometimes you have to defeat a boss, etc. Naughty Dog, the creators of TLOU, is sort of the king of this type of game right now. They not only build complex stories, they also put a lot into character development. As you are walking through the different scenes, you are having conversations with other characters in the world, or just hearing them in the background. The scene in last night's episode where they are walking through the hotel and Ellie starts goofing like she is checking in is the exact type of scene they would have in the game. It's not a cut scene, but as you are playing Joel exploring the lobby, you would just hear Ellie goofing off in the background doing something like that. Naughty Dog also created The Uncharted series, which the game play is very similar, although it's Indiana Jones style instead of Zombie Apocalypse. The Last of Us is often considered the best example of a story driven game.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Chuck Cunningham said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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aTmAg said:

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PascalsWager said:

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The people (fans of the game) I've talked to about this and the way its marketed feels like yet another post apocalyptic zombie show.

I tried the Walking Dead and lasted two seasons. If the point of a show like this is show how people go about working towards a "cure" or fix of any kind, I can get behind that (even if its never reached). If the point is to show that living in this world would be difficult and that people would be cruel and violent; that seems tedious me.

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I disagree with all these shows insistence that everybody would be cruel and violent. I think people would come together and cooperate. Would some people be a-holes? Yes. But not 90% like these shows always imply. What do I base this opinion on? The real life Lord of the Flies incident that happened decades ago. Several boys got marooned on an island for like 8 months or so, and did they bully/kill each other? No they worked together, assigned each other responsibilities, and took care of each other. They even built a gym out of logs and stuff and gained weight by the time they were found. One boy broke his leg, and the others took such good care of him, that the doctors later couldn't tell that anything had happened to his leg at all. To those who think that would be boring, just watch the Walking Dead for a few seasons to realize how boring that can get.

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Unfortunately I disagree. People may be kind for a bit but if **** truly hit the fan, I think we'd see a complete breakdown of social order quickly. People need to eat and protect their own family. We have a lot of criminals now when life is pretty good and food is readily available. You'd have pockets of people helping each other and large swaths of people ripping each other apart.

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We know who to stay away from in a post-apocalyptic environment.

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As bleak as it is to say, doubt I'd still be around in a fast zombie scenario. I've got 3 young kids. I don't think there is a likelihood of survival unless you are a single man in your 20s-40s. You'd need to be able to move and fast and have the ability to defend yourself.

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KidDoc said:

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My son would be out of luck as he is a type 1 DM.

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AustinAg2K said:

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Dr. Mephisto said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Chuck Cunningham said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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aTmAg said:

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PascalsWager said:

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The people (fans of the game) I've talked to about this and the way its marketed feels like yet another post apocalyptic zombie show.

I tried the Walking Dead and lasted two seasons. If the point of a show like this is show how people go about working towards a "cure" or fix of any kind, I can get behind that (even if its never reached). If the point is to show that living in this world would be difficult and that people would be cruel and violent; that seems tedious me.

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I disagree with all these shows insistence that everybody would be cruel and violent. I think people would come together and cooperate. Would some people be a-holes? Yes. But not 90% like these shows always imply. What do I base this opinion on? The real life Lord of the Flies incident that happened decades ago. Several boys got marooned on an island for like 8 months or so, and did they bully/kill each other? No they worked together, assigned each other responsibilities, and took care of each other. They even built a gym out of logs and stuff and gained weight by the time they were found. One boy broke his leg, and the others took such good care of him, that the doctors later couldn't tell that anything had happened to his leg at all. To those who think that would be boring, just watch the Walking Dead for a few seasons to realize how boring that can get.

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Unfortunately I disagree. People may be kind for a bit but if **** truly hit the fan, I think we'd see a complete breakdown of social order quickly. People need to eat and protect their own family. We have a lot of criminals now when life is pretty good and food is readily available. You'd have pockets of people helping each other and large swaths of people ripping each other apart.

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We know who to stay away from in a post-apocalyptic environment.

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As bleak as it is to say, doubt I'd still be around in a fast zombie scenario. I've got 3 young kids. I don't think there is a likelihood of survival unless you are a single man in your 20s-40s. You'd need to be able to move and fast and have the ability to defend yourself.

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I have an 11 year old daughter.

I'll come over and we'll band together with other hard core parents ready to go down swinging. I'm not giving details, but I'll bring all my high capacity "puns".

Always need a fast wit, good joke, and extended "shagazines".

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100% certain any band of parents will murder each other before the zombies arrive.

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aTmAg said:

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javajaws said:

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For a non-gamer thread this sure has a lot of posts about the game (or comparisons with).

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Nothing about the story though.

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aTmAg said:

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If the beginning of each episode continues to show a glimpse of life during the start of the outbreak, then that would totally fix the complaint I had in the other thread about zombie movies in general. That I wish they didn't always just gloss over that and say "X year later..."

That would be pretty great.

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johnnyblaze36 said:

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Finally got around to watching it after being in depressed mode after the Cowboys loss for a day.

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bangobango said:

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The kiss was dumb. Other than that, really enjoying the show.

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Chuck Cunningham said:

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hurleyag said:

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bangobango said:

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The kiss was dumb. Other than that, really enjoying the show.

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This confused me. One minute the zombies go from biting and wanting to tear you up, then next thing you know they are putting the moves on you and making out in the corner with you.

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She had already been affected.

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