Go back. Warn Xandar (?) about his coming. Or Kill Thanos at birth. or idk...literally go back and tell Quill not to punch Thanos while they were inches away from getting the guantlet. There's a million things.Philip J Fry said:
Stop him how?
I assume that the 1 chance in 1 million+ is the plan that Dr. Strange is executing.
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Thanks. Will add those as well.
Forgot about Mantis too. She died, right?
Yep, she's dust.
Thanks.
Alright, after a ton of help, this should be the final list...
STILL ALIVE:
Earth
Captain America
Thor
Bruce Banner
Black Widow
War Machine
Okoye
M'Baku
Rocket
Titan
Tony Stark
Nebula
DEATH BY DUST:
Spider-man
Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Bucky Barnes
Falcon
Star-Lord
Drax
Groot
Mantis
Scarlett Witch
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
DEATH BY DEATH:
Loki
Gamora
Vision
Heimdall
UNKNOWN:
In IW
Shuri
Wong
General Ross
Pepper Potts
Eitri
Not in IW
Hawkeye
Ant-Man
The Wasp
Hank Pym
Sharon Carter
Everett Ross
Collector
Valkyrie
Korg
Grandmaster
Aunt Mae
Ned
Christine Palmer
Laura Barton
STILL ALIVE:
Earth
Captain America
Thor
Bruce Banner
Black Widow
War Machine
Okoye
M'Baku
Rocket
Titan
Tony Stark
Nebula
DEATH BY DUST:
Spider-man
Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Bucky Barnes
Falcon
Star-Lord
Drax
Groot
Mantis
Scarlett Witch
Nick Fury
Maria Hill
DEATH BY DEATH:
Loki
Gamora
Vision
Heimdall
UNKNOWN:
In IW
Shuri
Wong
General Ross
Pepper Potts
Eitri
Not in IW
Hawkeye
Ant-Man
The Wasp
Hank Pym
Sharon Carter
Everett Ross
Collector
Valkyrie
Korg
Grandmaster
Aunt Mae
Ned
Christine Palmer
Laura Barton
haha here's a time article with the list, if you want to save yourself the trouble. ITCTTS said:
Forgot about Mantis too. She died, right?
http://time.com/5252990/avengers-infinity-war-deaths/
Why did they not use one of Dr. Strange's magic portals to cut the gauntlet off???? I wish they would have discussed it and had an avenger explicitly say why they couldn't do it, because to me it seemed like the obvious first course of action. (Maybe they did, and I missed that dialogue...)
They grabbed his gauntlet after Strange saw the future. Getting the gauntlet appears to not be the way to ultimately beat him.
We're more detailed!
I dont see how thats possible but either way the point is there's an inifinite number of ways Strange could go back and incapacitate Thanos or at least ensure none of the stones fall into his grasp.Philip J Fry said:
They grabbed his gauntlet after Strange saw the future. Getting the gauntlet appears to not be the way to ultimately beat him.
I wish they woulda kept Thanos' motivation being to try to impress 'Death.' His plan to 'equal' out the universe doesn't really make sense once Thanos controlled space, time and reality, why wouldn't he just...y'know double the resources instead of killing half the people? He could literally transform landfills into bountiful fields of food or trees?
Philip J Fry said:
Stop him how?
I assume that the 1 chance in 1 million+ is the plan that Dr. Strange is executing.
Well, Wong cut that guy's arm off by closing a portal on him.
How about relieving Thanos of his head, or arm?
Hell, use the Eye of Agamotto to freeze time, and then take the glove.
Also surprised that Strange didn't use the mirror realm in NYC. Obviously couldn't contain Thanos bc of the space stone, but battling the minions with stark in the mirror realm would've been interesting.
As far as the "loss of stakes"....
... if they reverse the "dusted" deaths but leave Gamora and all the rest of the ones that actually died, how does that effect your thoughts?
To me, the stakes are still there at that point. If you disagree, then doesn't the mere existence of a time stone render the universe with a "loss of stakes"?
... if they reverse the "dusted" deaths but leave Gamora and all the rest of the ones that actually died, how does that effect your thoughts?
To me, the stakes are still there at that point. If you disagree, then doesn't the mere existence of a time stone render the universe with a "loss of stakes"?
If his main goal was to keep us on the track that led to the single opportunity he saw for a victory, using the time stone might have somehow scrambled the future options he saw. Thanos made a point to mention that Strange never used his most powerful weapon in the fight.M.C. Swag said:
I hate time travel in movies. Why didn't Dr Strange just reverse time and stop Thanos?....
Sharon Carter on the unknown list. Someone else I was thinking too, but forgot.
You're the same guy that went to a bar for the Game of Thrones season finale and filmed it right? I can't believe there are people out there like this, on the opposite side of the spectrum from me. I'm ok with normal reactions and gasps and laughter, but people shouting random things and overreacting would ruin the movie for me.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Jesus.
Wish I could be in an audience like this, not gonna lie.
Good call. Added her. Thanks.
Here's the interesting thing though: if one of the avengers does weild the gauntlet to somehow reverse things, they're gonna have to kill someone they love/care about, right?
Yes, my guess is a Cap/Tony scenario there.
jtstanley4621 said:
Here's the interesting thing though: if one of the avengers does weild the gauntlet to somehow reverse things, they're gonna have to kill someone they love/care about, right?
Just develop a love for thanos
Like that was even possible.
Why couldn't Dr Strange just take them back in time before Thanos get the power stone and keep him from getting it, and then if he succeeds go back and try again, and again, and yes again until they get it right
My point is I don't really like when movies introduce time traveling because I think it leads to too many plot holes
My point is I don't really like when movies introduce time traveling because I think it leads to too many plot holes
What if GotG3 is the story about how Xandar lost the stone? Told in retrospect by Rocket so the rest of the cast can be back without having to explain it.
bthotugigem05 said:
What if GotG3 is the story about how Xandar lost the stone? Told in retrospect by Rocket so the rest of the cast can be back without having to explain it.
A movie where we already know the outcome is in which most of the good guys are slaughtered?
Charlie Conway said:
Why couldn't Dr Strange just take them back in time before Thanos get the power stone and keep him from getting it, and then if he succeeds go back and try again, and again, and yes again until they get it right
My point is I don't really like when movies introduce time traveling because I think it leads to too many plot holes
The only time manipulation we've seen has been very local and limited. Never more than a few minutes, and involved actual reversal of time rather than "time travel." So I don't know that going back and killing Baby Thanos or going back and traveling to Xandar or whatever is possible.
Trap Thanos in a time loop like Dormamu? Maybe that, I guess. But again ultimately Strange is playing a longer game by letting Thanos have the stone, knowing what would happen.
I agree Time Travel can be tricky and problematic, but Marvel has treated it with a lot of restraint.
Worked for Rogue One.AgMarauder04 said:bthotugigem05 said:
What if GotG3 is the story about how Xandar lost the stone? Told in retrospect by Rocket so the rest of the cast can be back without having to explain it.
A movie where we already know the outcome is in which most of the good guys are slaughtered?
bthotugigem05 said:
What if GotG3 is the story about how Xandar lost the stone? Told in retrospect by Rocket so the rest of the cast can be back without having to explain it.
I thought all of the guardians were shocked to hear that Xandar was decimated. Didn't Thor tell them that?
They've treated it with a lot of vagueness so no one knows the established rules of any of the stones lol.
Haven't read everything but saw it earlier today and I'm not sure what I think. I guess it maybe depends on what happens next? I agree that Thanos' motivation is weird. He has enough power to do anything.
jtstanley4621 said:bthotugigem05 said:
What if GotG3 is the story about how Xandar lost the stone? Told in retrospect by Rocket so the rest of the cast can be back without having to explain it.
I thought all of the guardians were shocked to hear that Xandar was decimated. Didn't Thor tell them that?
That is correct.
Urban Ag said:Yeah, where I was trying to go with my above post was that they'd die defeating Thanos, in order to reverse the finger snap. But someone then has to pick up the Gauntlet to do it. And my guess is that is either Steve or Tony and the act of doing reverses the finger snap but he dies from wielding the stones.Brian Earl Spilner said:
But... It would also mean half the Earth's population actually does stay dead. Somehow, I don't think they do that. Too massive of an event for the MCU going forward.
I guess I'm buying into the theory that saving eveyrone will require the sacrifice of all of the original Avengers.
To me, that feels like enough of a sacrifice to give weight and meaning to all this.
They gotta go bold in finishing this thing, and I think they will. Otherwise, and as much as I generally liked this movie, the whole half the Avengers dying was an utter jerk off, when we all know Peter, BP, and the Guardians are all coming back to their respective franchises so the mouse can print more money. So if it's like, hey look, they reversed what Thanos did, everyone's back (happy face) but it took the deaths of Stark, Capt, Black Widow, and Thor or Hulk to do it (sad face) then I'm happy with that outcome.
I generally think this is the way they'd go... but how amazing would it be if they actually did leave half the universe dead? I mean, they've already decimated plenty of places that they developed (Asgard, Xandar, Knowhere). It would also be a really poignant way to emphasize some of the things that Thanos was saying - about how people eventually move on and survive, and potentially thrive - which would be a really thought-provoking way to move forward.
texasaggie04 said:
That is correct.
I read that in the drunken Rocket voice from GOTG1.
Yeah, but they accomplished their mission. Xandar lost the stone they were protecting.
bobinator said:
Haven't read everything but saw it earlier today and I'm not sure what I think. I guess it maybe depends on what happens next? I agree that Thanos' motivation is weird. He has enough power to do anything.
His motivation, IIRC, is almost altruistic. Overpopulation killed Titan, and he wants to spare the universe that same fate?
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