I took it more as a sarcastic, "Oooh! [I'm shaking in my boots.]" but maybe it was a little of both?

Every Veidt scene so far has almost seemed like something out of a Wes Andersen film. Those scenes are super quirky and intriguing

"So it's a racist detector?"

This is the future liberals want.


Sorry, I had to

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"So it's a racist detector?"

This is the future liberals want.


Sorry, I had to

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That's an oversimplification.

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I didn't realize this had started. I plan to watch it since I've read the graphic novel and seen the movie.

But I have to admit I groaned hard when I heard an interview this week with someone from the show stating that they are using this show to address racial issues.

Jesus Christ. Do we have to address race in everything now?

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I mean, if you don't like it then don't watch.

It's definitely a central issue of the show, but it's also a very relevant issue for a lot of people right now and it's really not addressed that much in media and film relative to the whole.

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Surely you're being sarcastic ??

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Count how many shows there are, then count how many address racial issues. I'm comfortable saying that's a pretty small percentage. People just notice when they do.

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I suppose that would depend on how you define "racial issues". If by that you mean blatant "look at these terrible White people in a white supremacist group" then perhaps not. However I'd argue the vast majority of shows on today touch on not just racial issues but all sorts of things political, either blatant or subtlety. Watchmen is just wielding the white supremacy boogeyman as an obnoxiously large club.

That being said I'm still enjoying the show and I recently picked up the graphic novel to read. I'm only a few chapters in, though, and have yet to come across any themes about race and white supremacy. I've read on Reddit it was in the comic but I haven't seen it yet (the comic is great so far btw)

It's just frustrating because "white supremacy" is the current boogeyman of the day and this show has kinda taken it to an absurd extreme- and unless it's a front for something more to come down the line, it's clearly a commentary on what leftists perceive as a contemporary issue which is laughably false.

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So far the only "extreme" has been actual history. Nasty stuff that real life history.

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I didn't realize this had started. I plan to watch it since I've read the graphic novel and seen the movie.

But I have to admit I groaned hard when I heard an interview this week with someone from the show stating that they are using this show to address racial issues.

Jesus Christ. Do we have to address race in everything now?

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I mean, if you don't like it then don't watch.

It's definitely a central issue of the show, but it's also a very relevant issue for a lot of people right now and it's really not addressed that much in media and film relative to the whole.

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Surely you're being sarcastic ??

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Count how many shows there are, then count how many address racial issues. I'm comfortable saying that's a pretty small percentage. People just notice when they do.

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I suppose that would depend on how you define "racial issues". If by that you mean blatant "look at these terrible White people in a white supremacist group" then perhaps not. However I'd argue the vast majority of shows on today touch on not just racial issues but all sorts of things political, either blatant or subtlety. Watchmen is just wielding the white supremacy boogeyman as an obnoxiously large club.

That being said I'm still enjoying the show and I recently picked up the graphic novel to read. I'm only a few chapters in, though, and have yet to come across any themes about race and white supremacy. I've read on Reddit it was in the comic but I haven't seen it yet (the comic is great so far btw)

It's just frustrating because "white supremacy" is the current boogeyman of the day and this show has kinda taken it to an absurd extreme- and unless it's a front for something more to come down the line, it's clearly a commentary on what leftists perceive as a contemporary issue which is laughably false.

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So far the only "extreme" has been actual history. Nasty stuff that real life history.

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What are you babbling about? Are you Dr. Manhattan and can look into the future and be in two time periods at once?

You're the one babbling, I'm afraid. He's obviously talking about the "extreme" racial/woke/SJW elements many of you keep claiming are running rampant in this show, which I honestly don't see at all. There's the race thing and that's about it, but that's CLEARLY now more of a cover/distraction than anything else. Otherwise, this is just... Watchmen. Where, as was stated earlier, EVERYONE is in hell. EVERYONE is gray. Especially the "good" guys. This show's only "agenda" is to make that point.

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You're the one babbling, I'm afraid. He's obviously talking about the "extreme" racial/woke/SJW elements many of you are claiming are running rampant in this show, which I honestly don't see at all. There's the race thing and that's about it, but that's CLEARLY now more of a cover/distraction than anything else. Otherwise, this is just... Watchmen. Where, as was stated earlier, EVERYONE is in hell. EVERYONE is gray. Especially the "good" guys. This show's only "agenda" is to make that point.

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I'm doing no such babbling. He said the only extreme/absurd depiction of white supremacy and racial issues has been "actual history"

Other than the Tulsa race riots from the very first scene, this show is entirely fiction. So what is the "actual history" I'm missing here? Hence the babbling

How do you know it's not my way of getting into character for the thread and trying to radiate Rorschach vibes?

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You're the one babbling, I'm afraid. He's obviously talking about the "extreme" racial/woke/SJW elements many of you are claiming are running rampant in this show, which I honestly don't see at all. There's the race thing and that's about it, but that's CLEARLY now more of a cover/distraction than anything else. Otherwise, this is just... Watchmen. Where, as was stated earlier, EVERYONE is in hell. EVERYONE is gray. Especially the "good" guys. This show's only "agenda" is to make that point.

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I'm doing no such babbling. He said the only extreme/absurd depiction of white supremacy and racial issues has been "actual history"

Other than the Tulsa race riots from the very first scene, this show is entirely fiction. So what is the "actual history" I'm missing here? Hence the babbling

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Well the only "racism," that I've seen is stuff from actual history. There is stuff that the cops have called and attributed to racism, like the hatred towards reparations, but I would consider that legitimate beef with the government. Even in the first episode when Sister Knight has that kid ask her if her hospital bills were paid with "Redfordations," and her daughter asks if he's racist, she tells her kid that he's not, but probably on his way. Then there is the police chief having Klan robes, but who knows if that is a false flag or not at this point.

I think the show is showing you that the cops have miscalculated the 7th cavalry movement, and this is highlighted in the scene with the bomber. He didn't want to take out Sister Knight or any other black people at the funeral, the obvious target for a terrorist from a racist movement, but rather was after the senator for his policies on police wearing masks, and again, supporting reparations. Even the White Night where they massacred all the police officers wasn't done on a racial bias perspective.

If anything, the show has been pretty over the top towards cop coverups, taking shortcuts, and brutality when investigating.

I mean yes, but calling someone out for being a "traitor to their race" is a pretty big way to say "I'm a racist"

Now my guess is that the small number of white supremacist that make up the 7th cav have been controlled/manipulated by the senator and police chief, and that the larger white underclass is disgruntled and upset about more legitimate problems in this version of 2019

About every other page of this thread is just going to be a beating to read huh?

Anyway, loved this episode. Jean Smart is amazing, her characters in Fargo and Legion were great. Love that the call took 40 seconds to transmit to Mars and then 40 seconds later... a car drops in front of her. Side note, but are there any Bojack Horseman fans who immediately thought of Wanda's mulch bag joke from Season 2?

Count me in as someone who things the Senator has set up a lot of this to help his campaign, or at least staged the bombing incident. Shades of the Veidt assassination attempt.

Peteypedia has been updated, for those of you that enjoy reading that. It includes a review by Agent Petey of the American Hero Show and a clip from the New Frontiersman lamenting the continued rise of leftism in the country. I'm sure that won't get anybody stirred up.

Most interestingly though, it includes a letter from the original Keene with Judd Crawford's grandfather. Explains the title of last week's episode (the words being flipped that I mentioned in my post a few pages back), as well as confirms Keene and Crawford's political ideologies.

So many great easter eggs this week.