*** WATCHMEN (HBO) ***

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Why does every show have to be shot in the dark?
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Night is one color: black. You can shoot for hours and not have to worry about the sun being in different positions, different lighting, cloud cover, etc.
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It's also good for angering crotchety old men such as yourself.
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This looks so awesome and fantastical. This whole series could be fan service like Endgame.

I wonder if it is too bizarre to draw in casual viewers. Nevermind. I KNOW it's too bizarre unless word of mouth draws them in later.

Remind me, this takes place in lieu of the movie and comic, right?

This looks so beautiful.
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Damon Lindelof is calling it a "remix," whatever the hell that means. But all indications point to the events of the comic having happened, and this is basically 30 years or so later. That said, Lindelof refuses to call it a "sequel." And no, it is not officially tied to the movie.
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BTHOthatguy
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True. In my day when we watched TV you could see what was happening.
Al Bula
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That trailer was hard to watch and not interesting. Could be an epic fail.
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Shife said:

That trailer was hard to watch and not interesting. Could be an epic fail.
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Liquid Wrench
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Welp, that's not encouraging.

*Idk, I guess it could be interesting to experiment with a fantasy world where there's no internet so you see tensions build out in the physical world. We have some history of that with the domestic strife of the 60's and 70's.
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I'm disappointed but not entirely surprised that HBO would permit this. The problem is no American audience wants to be politically preached at, they want to be entertained. At best it's controversial and at worst you immediately alienate and cut out half your potential audience from the get go. Besides it being a dead horse beaten trope, characterizing middle America as conservative and therefore racist will not guarantee the coastal audiences will double up viewership either. They would see the played out trope as well.

Say what you will but people watch fictional shows to be entertained, hence why HBO's best shows have always focused on the plot and production over the "message", Game of Thrones, Band of Brothers, Chernobyl, Rome, John Adams, etc...

Regardless of all politics I'm really peeved that they would butcher Rorshach's legacy in this one, that being that that truth is paramount and persistent even over doomsday. Think about it, you take the best character from the original story and make his "followers" white supremacists. In what fictitious world is that even possible? Only if the show makers either misunderstood the character or perversed what he stood for to begin with. I was really looking forward to this show but now I've dialed it back to cautious. If this really is the main theme I can't imagine being entertained for very long.
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Inter-esting: https://ew.com/tv/2019/07/24/damon-lindelof-watchmen-hbo-series-alan-moore-tca-2019/

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Watchmen's original creator Alan Moore is "not thrilled" about HBO's new adaptation, according to the network's president of programming Casey Bloys, but showrunner Damon Lindelof says he's moving full-steam ahead with this message: "F you, I'm doing it anyway."

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"I don't think that I've made peace with it," he said. "Alan Moore is a genius, in my opinion, the greatest writer in the comic medium and maybe the greatest writer of all time. He's made it very clear that he doesn't want to have any association or affiliation with Watchmen ongoing and that we not use his name to get people to watch it, which I want to respect."
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I said on another thread that I was confused and disappointed by that trailer. Having caught up on this tread I now see why.

The original was so tied into Cold War paranoia that I don't think it makes sense in any other context (which is why the movie didn't work for some people) .

Not sure a follow on based around racial strife in Oklahoma is the way to go.
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Yeah, I am not down for spending free time watching a narrative where "white man bad" is a key theme.

I'll give the pilot a shot purely based on the Watchmen brand, but given DL's prior work (none of his stuff impressed me) I will be shocked if I make it through the whole season.
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We need an SJW meme for Buzz Lightyear.
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The Debt
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Disregarding source material to make a film about white racism, gee where have we seen that before?





hunter2012
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The Debt said:

Disregarding source material to make a film about white racism, gee where have we seen that before?







We must have seen very different movies because i don't recall race even being a subplot or theme in this movie... What am I missing?
Duncan Idaho
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While I love the work he did on Nash Bridges (which we can all agree was the pinnacle of cop shows), I worry that there will be a lack of blue peen in this show
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Duncan Idaho said:

While I love the work he did on Nash Bridges (which we can all agree was the pinnacle of cop shows), I worry that there will be a lack of blue peen in this show
Did you even read the article? They intend to mushroom stamp the audience with that peen.
Claude!
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I believe that the bad guys in the book were not Neo-Nazis.
hunter2012
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Ah, that makes sense. I thought the Nazis mainly wanted revenge against Russia and the US for WW2 so they goaded both into fighting each other. Nazis make easy bad guys...
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The Debt
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We must have seen very different movies because i don't recall race even being a subplot or theme in this movie... What am I missing?
claude is correct. The bad guys in the book is a Palestinian terror group. The only "connection" to "nazis" in the book is an East German scientist (east, meaning communist) who seeks revenge on both the US (for defeating the USSR) and Russia (for betraying world socialism).

There is no white nationalist or neo nazi antagonist in the book. Hollywood rewrote the political thriller and aimed the target at white men. Because God forbid you put Palestinians in a bad light (proper light).
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We finally have a premiere date - Sunday, October 20th.

https://instagr.am/p/B19OgZnl6YK
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Gives a really good sense of the plot...

Fat Bib Fortuna
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Disappointing lack of naked Malin Akerman in that trailer.
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Final trailer...

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Bumping for tomorrow night's premiere.
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WTF did I just watch?
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That was suuuuuper weird and random... but I'm absolutely in. I just kept going back and forth between "Whoa, that's cool" to "What is happening?" to "How on earth does this show exist?" The preview for the episodes ahead looked amazing. I need to see another episode or two, though, before can wrap my head around this thing and really know what I think...
 
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