Belton Ag said:

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cslifer said:

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Except with that lease, that we have all seen, there are none. That is a ten year lease. If we were to talk about penalties, let's say it is 5 years of lease payments…$5. I'll take that in a heartbeat. If you were to make the argument it is month to month, it is month to month at 8 CENTS which is also an amazing deal.

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I'm not trying to argue that it's not an amazing deal, just saying that it offers no protection at all for the lessee other than the guaranteed low rate for a set period. It can be terminated at any time, provided the BBC gives written notice. At this point I'd almost bet money it gets terminated soon now that it's come to light. To me that's not really a 10 year lease.

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BQ_90 said:

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techno-ag said:

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BQ_90 said:

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Chrundle the Great said:

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Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"

So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.

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So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!

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Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.

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You'd have dozen people jump on that lease in seconds. I know people that live in Caldwell work on Bryan and lease pasture in Whitehall because that's all they could find. This $1 lease is crazy, you'd find people that'd pay way more

Grazing leases just aren't easy to find

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Ok. They'd still have to vacate the premises in the event of a sale. That can't be convenient.

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Guess what that's in every cattle lease. Most are year to year. If the terms are so bad then why is this buddy of the mayor running cows there then.

And it's very rare to sell a piece of property like this and immediately start construction. The new owner will want to keep ag value you on it to the last possible day.

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Again if this is so bad of a deal then why is the mayors buddy running cows out there?

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techno-ag said:

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BQ_90 said:

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doubledog said:

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Chrundle the Great said:

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Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"

So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.

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So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!

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Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.

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You'd have dozen people jump on that lease in seconds. I know people that live in Caldwell work on Bryan and lease pasture in Whitehall because that's all they could find. This $1 lease is crazy, you'd find people that'd pay way more

Grazing leases just aren't easy to find

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Ok. They'd still have to vacate the premises in the event of a sale. That can't be convenient.

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Guess what that's in every cattle lease. Most are year to year. If the terms are so bad then why is this buddy of the mayor running cows there then.

And it's very rare to sell a piece of property like this and immediately start construction. The new owner will want to keep ag value you on it to the last possible day.

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From what we've read here, apparently they we're using it for an artificial insemination program on his herd.

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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might be easier to AI on site since they are longhorns. would be a pain to be hauling them back and forth. but the corral on site on that property is not in very good shape, so maybe they do haul them back and forth.

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AggiePhil said:

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Looks like today is moving day.

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Mr.Short-termMemory said:

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curry97 said:

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Can't the neighbors sue the mayor for mental stress due to him not controlling his cattle on said property?

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Only if the neighbors are ovulating and being harvested.

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AggiePhil said:

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Looks like today is moving day.

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techno-ag said:

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Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but if a 100 acre pasture leases for $1,000/year, it seems a 200 acre pasture would go for $2,000/year.

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So $1999/yr more than the present lease. You made my point.

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Plus the quoted number from the TSCRA site was an illustration of how a lease value could be constructed, not an actual, applicable value, for a lease. Other data indicated a lease value well above some debatable $2000 threshold.

And the actual lease also includes the clause "At no time may a greater number of cattle be placed on the property than is consistent with first class husbandry and conservation practice", i.e, overgrazing.
The repeated and chronic breakout of the herd, onto both public right-of-ways, and neighboring private property, indicate hungry cattle, and/or bad fences.
Lease holders are generally responsible for maintenance; has that been happening?

Donnie at KBTX needs to ask the neighbors, and Brazos county SO, of the number of calls.

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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the whole point to having cattle is to make money, so i do not see your point there.

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