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With that said, your first sentence and last sentence are in direct contradiction with each other. If you "do not know all of the facts or particulars" and "will reserve judgement until all facts and sides are publicly known", then how can you claim that he "is not 'crooked' a 'slimeball' or any of the other colorful characterizations being used here"?

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Because I have known the man for 30+ years and at no time have I seen anything to make me believe he is anything other than a good man. If he's a wolf in sheep's clothing that's a whole lot of sheep costume wearing without ever taking it off ROFL.

Also during this time I have served/worked with Bobby on numerous boards, committees, charities etc and witnessed the man go above and beyond and display a selfless servants heart time and time again. Again not inline with the characterizations of him being a crooked person here.

Like my grandpa used to say "a leopard can't change his spots", and Bobby has worn the spots of generous, kind, servant to the community for decades. He's my friend, if he's in the wrong I'll be more than willing to say so, but until the whole story is known I will continue to reserve my judgment.

If everything is on the up and up, it sure would be hard for me to sit by and watch people speculate and not tell my side of the story.

trouble said:

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They are being very careful to have facts in hand first.

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And silence is golden... A good reporter would dig for the facts, not wait for someone to hand them to him/her.

doubledog said:

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trouble said:

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They are being very careful to have facts in hand first.

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And silence is golden... A good reporter would dig for the facts, not wait for someone to hand them to him/her.

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...and duct tape is silver...

When a past BISD Superintendent was emptying his personal trash into a commercial bin paid for by the District, Rusty showed up at the guys house with microphone and camera in hand. Why no mention of this by KBTX yet?

Superintendent is hired. Mayor is elected. Mayor has powerful friends. Superintendent doesn't.

https://www.kbtx.com/business/bryan-business-council-issues-statement-about-crashed-airplane-their-property/

So he's supposed to just get a tow truck and get it out in two days?

Basically they confirmed the shakedown.

I wonder why the mayor hasn't released a statement that he didn't make the phone call referenced by the pilot about money? If you didn't do it wouldn't it be best to say so?

Why would a pilot or an insurance company willingly leave a plane stranded?

Lol so the shake down is real and now the mayor is rushing to cover his slimy ass. Really a paragon of virtue

They've been caught and are now cover their asses. Would love to see some contracts on the lease to see whose name is on it.

boredatwork08 said:

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Why would a pilot or an insurance company willingly leave a plane stranded?

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lol they wouldn't. That's a lot of money sitting out there and if cows decide to start rubbing up against it, they could do some damage.

In the video at the 32min mark; the letter sent by the attorney on behalf of the mayor says (in paragraph 2) ….."plane crash on property leased by Mr. Gutierrez"…

In the KBTX link both in the story and in the attached statement by the BBC it says Clifford Dorn owner of Rafter D Genetics is who the property is leased to. They make it very clear the mayor is not leasing the property?

I would like to see the lease history of the property. This makes me wonder a few things:


1. Why would the mayor tell his own attorney he leases the land? Is it because he knows that if he signed the lease it would look bad. It makes you wonder if he made an arrangement with Rafter D to sign the lease so the paperwork looks good but he really controls everything.

I would imagine the attorney who wrote the letter is not happy. In his letter to the YouTuber, the attorney even says, "With reckless disregard for the actual facts and circumstances…."

All the while not checking the actual facts of the mayor not having a lease. That is embarrassing, and to top it off the business and attorney names are clearly identifiable on the YouTube video.


2. Because he is not on the lease; just someone paying for a service. If the mayor is seeking damages, wouldn't he need to go after Rafter D's insurance?

Rafter D is/was providing the service. Either Rafter D completed the contract or not. His only recourse for compensation would be Rafter D. In turn, Rafter D would have to make an insurance claim or as the entity on the lease, go after the pilot (hopefully via insurance companies - not holding a plane ransom for $250k)


3. The same old things Why hasn't the mayor tried to get in front of this? If he has family or real friends following the story or even reading this on TexAgs, wouldn't they call him and tell him to tell the 'truth', or at least his side.

And on an aside: I know Longhorns are a Texas icon and we are all Texans. As magnificent as they are; why right next to campus (lol)????

From the KBTX article:
"The BBC does not have a contract with Mr. Gutierrez nor was the BBC aware of the fact that Gutierrez was a client of Rafter D."

But did Mr. Gutierrez know who owned that land? Or did Rafter D ever know or put those dots together?

It's been suggested that he was on the BBC when the land was purchased....

trouble said:

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It's been suggested that he was on the BBC when the land was purchased....

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He began his membership with the BBC Jan 2015 and ended as a non-voting liaison in Dec 2022.

https://onboard.bryantx.gov/board-members/12698

And the property was purchased in '21, correct?

This press release just makes things more sus.

" Dorn says at no point has he prevented the pilot from gaining access to the plane, but tells KBTX the emergency landing disrupted a costly breeding operation involving longhorns owned by Bryan Mayor Bobby Gutierrez, and says the incident has led to a canceled contract resulting in lost income for himself and significant financial loss for Gutierrez."

Give me a freaking break. How does a little plane in the middle of a field disrupt an entire breeding operation to the point of "significant loss" to the Mayor and a cancelled contract? I call BS. The plane basically became like a tree at that point. Also, the owner of the plane clearly explained that all he wanted to was to get his plane back and the Mayor himself called him wanting money to get his plane. Rubbish in this article and clearly trying to sweep under the rug.

I find this very interesting. They have had a contract for a couple years but the property has only belonged to the BBC for about 18 months?

Who was the prior owner? Did Dorn already have a lease with them or did his business relationship with the now mayor give him access to it?

"Dorn also clarified that he and Gutierrez entered into the private arrangement a couple of years ago, prior to Gutierrez being elected mayor, and stressed that he, not Gutierrez, leases the land from the Bryan Business Council."

I see it differently. The BBC, Dorn, and the mayor look worse to me after this article.

I believe that it is basically a sole-proprietorship at this point. It can be remedied by filing back franchise returns and paying penalties.