Sure if he has been living in a cave for the last couple of days, if he does not know the BBC is a non-profit, then he most likely gets his news for KBTXMr.Short-termMemory said:Being the lease holder he doesn't pay the taxes (or lack thereof.)Jsimonds58 said:
Little bit different when you claim to be the lease holder of the property
Could it be that on other property he owns or leases he knows what an ag exemption does to the tax owed and assumed it was the same for this property?
Thus the half-truths...Mr.Short-termMemory said:I agree. It does not mean we, as taxpayers, have all the facts at this point which would make us an authority on the subject.doubledog said:I think we are taxpayers, wanting some answers and getting half-truths and lies...Mr.Short-termMemory said:Everyone on this thread is coming in as an authority on this subject.maroon barchetta said:
Mistake?
No no no.
He came in as an authority on the subject.
Assuming Dorn is lying while accepting the pilot's perception as the truth is what I've seen so far. Could it be they are both just wrong without deliberately lying?
trouble said:
Can it be somewhere other than traditions?
I hear the old Macy's store would have made a great church... CoCS to the rescue!Hornbeck said:trouble said:
Can it be somewhere other than traditions?
Yes, I just wanted to take a big chunk of tax revenue off the books… and I should have named it First Church of the Empty Bourbon Bottle
And since that spot is already off the tax roll, CoCS won't miss what they aren't already collecting!doubledog said:I hear the old Macy's store would have made a great church... CoCS to the rescue!Hornbeck said:trouble said:
Can it be somewhere other than traditions?
Yes, I just wanted to take a big chunk of tax revenue off the books… and I should have named it First Church of the Empty Bourbon Bottle
Hornbeck said:trouble said:
Can it be somewhere other than traditions?
Yes, I just wanted to take a big chunk of tax revenue off the books… and I should have named it First Church of the Empty Bourbon Bottle
So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
Since the BBC doesn't pay tax on the land, and it's a non-profit, can it charge more than a nominal $1 fee for the lease? Wouldn't that be making a profit if they did? Don't know the answer, just asking more questions. The BBC will get their money back on the sale when they do sell it, but maybe they can't charge $$$ for the lease?Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.doubledog said:So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
For $201/year, I could find a use of 200 acres... Dog park? Raise a donkey? How about a tent city for football games?techno-ag said:Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.doubledog said:So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
Chrundle the Great said:
Non-profits can generate revenue just not profit. So the money made on the lease could go to paying BBC staff (if there is I don't know the specifics), purchasing more property, maintenance on assets they do own etc.
I moved away from Austin for a reason.doubledog said:For $201/year, I could find a use of 200 acres... Dog park? Raise a donkey? How about a tent city for football games?techno-ag said:Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.doubledog said:So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
I don't know if they have staff or assets to maintain either. If not, having a lease could ostensibly make a profit. Which as you mentioned, they cannot have.Chrundle the Great said:
Non-profits can generate revenue just not profit. So the money made on the lease could go to paying BBC staff (if there is I don't know the specifics), purchasing more property, maintenance on assets they do own etc.
And thus my point. That is not a cattle grazing lease.doubledog said:For $201/year, I could find a use of 200 acres... Dog park? Raise a donkey? How about a tent city for football games?techno-ag said:Not sure how many cattlemen around here are looking for more pastureland to lease under those stipulations. Mind you, I'm sure we could find some, but the typical City of Bryan citizen city slicker would neither need nor want a lease like that.doubledog said:So a umbrella insurance policy of $1M which is about $200/year... Total cost about $201/year... Where do I sign up!Chrundle the Great said:
Wtaw Bill Oliver just did a news break on 1150 discusing it. Pretty much paraphrased the kbtx article but right at the end added "Rafter d pays the bbc 1$/year to lease the property but is required to hold $1 million in insurance"
So there's a somewhat official confirmation of the $1 lease and a new twist that I guess the BBC is going to use to justify the cheapness.
The info page on the City of Bryan website https://building.bryantx.gov/bbc/ states that the BBC "has created and operated the 200-acre Bryan Business Park." I wonder what those tenants pay for their leases?Mr.Short-termMemory said:I don't know if they have staff or assets to maintain either. If not, having a lease could ostensibly make a profit. Which as you mentioned, they cannot have.Chrundle the Great said:
Non-profits can generate revenue just not profit. So the money made on the lease could go to paying BBC staff (if there is I don't know the specifics), purchasing more property, maintenance on assets they do own etc.
$1GSS said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/M8EDgsL6UFyZF7YTA
Pic of lease agreement.
cgdorn said:
I don't know if it was offered to other people. It is not a 10 year lease. The lease can be terminated with 30 days notice at any time so the property can be sold or developed so it is not a guaranteed lease. The BBC is saving a lot in taxes by having it used for Ag purposes and they are not tied into a long term lease.
Rules for thee and not meeeeeeJsimonds58 said:
Man that's crazy, dude got on here and lied about basically every part of his post. Didn't we just get castigated about how Aggies don't lie cheat or steal?
3. What is the connection (if any) between Mr. Dorn and the BBC? (not the broadcasting company).doubledog said:Thus the half-truths...Mr.Short-termMemory said:I agree. It does not mean we, as taxpayers, have all the facts at this point which would make us an authority on the subject.doubledog said:I think we are taxpayers, wanting some answers and getting half-truths and lies...Mr.Short-termMemory said:Everyone on this thread is coming in as an authority on this subject.maroon barchetta said:
Mistake?
No no no.
He came in as an authority on the subject.
Assuming Dorn is lying while accepting the pilot's perception as the truth is what I've seen so far. Could it be they are both just wrong without deliberately lying?
Again all we need is an answer to some basic questions.
Let's start with.
1. Is the property in question leased for $1/year (no matter for how long, or when it can be terminated)
If so how did the leasee obtain such a great deal, without the rest of us knowing about it.
2. Did the Mayor tell the plane owner that he was the leasee.
if he did then did he use that lie to attempt to leverage money from the plane holder.
I believe you need a 10 acre minimum (could be wrong).Charpie said:
is the tax savings for an Ag exemption enough to only have a $1 a year lease? If so, I need a goat for my backyard
