***Official Early Vote Tracking***

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agsalaska said:

Yea. Ok.

I'm sitting down to dinner and am not going to get in that debate. But it should be pretty obvious. Agree that it's a lot of low propensity voters. But you really think we not only found these voters but talked them into voting early. Without voting ourselves. That doesn't make any sense.

And the anecdotes are off the charts. The lines in Temple Tx this week voting early were not new voters.

We will see tomorrow.
You are ignoring the information people are putting in front of you. Scott Presler's organization (among others) has spent MONTHS signing up new voters, knocking on a million doors of new/low propensity voters in PA for example and talking them through how to request a ballot, following up to make sure they filled it out and returned it. So yes, the R ground game is outcompeting the D ground game for low propensity voters in the swing states. The R turnout is not down from 2020, it is even or ahead, and the difference is coming from those new/low P voters, leaving the people who vote frequently on ED to do so again. The D margins in the swing states are down because they are not turning out their low P voters at the same level they previously did.
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LMCane said:

Just dropped that Joe Rogan officially endorsed Trump along with Elon

they need to blast this 1000 times in the next 24 hours across the entire country

need to increase the male vote!
Twitter will blast it BIGLY...something that would NEVER happen in 2020. Thank God for Elon Musk!
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txags92 said:

agsalaska said:

Yea. Ok.

I'm sitting down to dinner and am not going to get in that debate. But it should be pretty obvious. Agree that it's a lot of low propensity voters. But you really think we not only found these voters but talked them into voting early. Without voting ourselves. That doesn't make any sense.

And the anecdotes are off the charts. The lines in Temple Tx this week voting early were not new voters.

We will see tomorrow.
You are ignoring the information people are putting in front of you. Scott Presler's organization (among others) has spent MONTHS signing up new voters, knocking on a million doors of new/low propensity voters in PA for example and talking them through how to request a ballot, following up to make sure they filled it out and returned it. So yes, the R ground game is outcompeting the D ground game for low propensity voters in the swing states. The R turnout is not down from 2020, it is even or ahead, and the difference is coming from those new/low P voters, leaving the people who vote frequently on ED to do so again. The D margins in the swing states are down because they are not turning out their low P voters at the same level they previously did.


No im not. I'm looking at it objectively and using a little common sense and not using assumptions as facts.

Its ok. . Let's move on.
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FireAg said:


The story is D underperformance in EV…

The story is that Kamala is totally unqualified and unlikeable even to her lemming base. Many of them are clearly sitting this one out.
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will25u said:


this dip**** just took NV out of mattering imo. They could have been a differentiator on ED. Now it'll 99% be decided by the time all the votes are "counted"
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Matt Hooper said:

I realize there is a rational element of keep your voters motivated to vote now that we are at Election Day.

But - as a layman who's already voted, there is something that just does not make sense.

1. Across multiple states (FL, GA, NC, PA, WI. MI, NV, AZ) republicans are at or slightly above 2020 early vote totals (in person and mail). Democrats are between 75% and 80% of their 202) vote totals.

2. The 2020 race was won (SP Edit) by a small number of votes in GA, WI, PA, MI and AZ.

3. Unless you believe R votes on Election Day are going to woefully under perform relative to 2020 (despite clear voter enthusiasm in the early vote) OR D voters are going to outperform on Election Day relative to 2020 (and out performed to 115% to 120% of that number) - then there is math problem with this race being as close as 2020.
Where do the catch up votes come from to make this race close like 2020?

This ignores greater R voter registration for 2024 potential voter pool.
This ignores R apparent better performance with Latino voters - not proven yet; only poll speculation.

These things don't seem like they can co-exist together. Maybe I am missing something - but there seems to be meaningful math whole for team D.




This is all true and leading me to believe we have a landslide tomorrow night…. I don't think it is close in most if not all of the swing states. The numbers don't allow for a Dem comeback tomorrow…. They are way down in turnout in almost all of the swing states. And Rep's seem to be at or barely above their 2020 numbers. There is no reason to think R's are not going to come out to vote. Heck, the enthusiasm behind Trump is at an all time high. And there is zero reason to believe the dems are going to magically show out and have 120% of what they did on ED of 2020… which is looking like what they are going to need
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Tempers seem to be high tonight
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Guys…..

One last time….

The Republicans early voting numbers are not any higher than they were in 2020. They are right at the same level. Maybe a little higher. Maybe a little lower. But we are talking 1-2% points either way….

That doesn't indicate in any way, nor is there any reason to believe the R's are eating into the ED vote….

The support and enthusiasm for Trump is at an all time high. The party is as unified as it has been since the days of Reagan…. Why would there be any reason to believe his vote totals are going to be lower????

It's like BAS but on the election scale.

Dems are going to have to have massive improvement over their ED turnout from 2020…. To go along with R's not turning out like 2020…. Neither of which is likely to happen.
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will25u said:




GOP needs to be in court over this. It's ridiculous
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agsalaska said:

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I have to admit. That is a pretty big threat.
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Another data point showing that conservatives and rural voters are turning out at same 2020 level while democrats and liberals have regressed

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We still have a republic in 18000 years?!?
agsalaska
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Got my attention.
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Something goofy with the PA data. They're showing decreases from the report they ran at 8 am, in today's 4 pm report. Like to levels below the report from Sunday morning, across the board.

Like the Dems had 997,450 statewide and 145,452 in Philly this morning. Now it is 989,364 and 142,004.

Across the board and very strange.
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This pulled straight from the state's election site.
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lol. I got my one and only (at leas that I remember) bam hammer election of 2016. I posted something stupid that bypasses obscenity filters and got a 72 hr timeout. Had to just watch from the sidelines all the glory.
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mslags97 said:

Guys…..

One last time….

The Republicans early voting numbers are not any higher than they were in 2020. They are right at the same level. Maybe a little higher. Maybe a little lower. But we are talking 1-2% points either way….

That doesn't indicate in any way, nor is there any reason to believe the R's are eating into the ED vote….

The support and enthusiasm for Trump is at an all time high. The party is as unified as it has been since the days of Reagan…. Why would there be any reason to believe his vote totals are going to be lower????

It's like BAS but on the election scale.

Dems are going to have to have massive improvement over their ED turnout from 2020…. To go along with R's not turning out like 2020…. Neither of which is likely to happen.


That's not true. Arizona and North Carolina for example are in the +10% range. Numbers are public.

But I'm going to delete my bookmarked and take the rest of the night off

Everyone have a good night.
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I don't believe you. It's hard to leave once you're here.
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will25u
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Really would be nice to sticky a post that is always visible explaining why Rs are NOT cannibalizing ED votes.
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will25u said:

Really would be nice to sticky a post that is always visible explaining why Rs are NOT cannibalizing ED votes.
I believe I've made that point on this thread but you have to realize there are posters who are just now clicking on this thread and think "hey, I've got an idea that is so astute I bet nobody else has thought of, now just follow along with me, what if early voters are taking away from election day voters"....whoa, mind blown!!!
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Prosperdick said:

will25u said:

Really would be nice to sticky a post that is always visible explaining why Rs are NOT cannibalizing ED votes.
I believe I've made that point on this thread but you have to realize there are posters who are just now clicking on this thread and think "hey, I've got an idea that is so astute I bet nobody else has thought of, now just follow along with me, what if early voters are taking away from election day voters"....whoa, mind blown!!!
I have posted it many times as well. It comes up like 5 times a day. lol
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Yes but one keeps ignoring it and arguing. It's tiresome.
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It's gonna be a bloodbath. Independents are +3-5% for Trump
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I know it's an EXTREMELY small sample, but here in Pulaski County, which contains Little Rock and several neighboring cities, and which Biden won with 62% of the vote in 2020, the busiest early voting location this year was in the solidly red bedroom community of Sherwood. This certainly doesn't mean Pulaski County will swing to the Republicans, nor does it guarantee anything, but I take it as evidence that Republicans are feeling motivated to turn out and vote at a higher level than before.
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mslags97 said:


Dems are going to have to have massive improvement over their ED turnout from 2020…. To go along with R's not turning out like 2020…. Neither of which is likely to happen.
There IS a good reason to believe ED turnout for Rs will go down - the constant preaching to vote early by Trump and conservative media. That had to have an effect. I believe its going down. I know your argument. But it's just assumptions based on similar turnout numbers to 2020. That's not that convincing given 2020 was a covid election.

However, I don't really see any reason for Dem ED turnout to go up, other than cheating.
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mslags97 said:

Guys…..

One last time….

The Republicans early voting numbers are not any higher than they were in 2020. They are right at the same level. Maybe a little higher. Maybe a little lower. But we are talking 1-2% points either way….

...

The support and enthusiasm for Trump is at an all time high. The party is as unified as it has been since the days of Reagan…. Why would there be any reason to believe his vote totals are going to be lower????



I am right there with you boss and have said so a few times.

I really do think that Trump is going to be right back around his 2020 mark of 74 million, which was a huge turnout.

The Dems, however, really took advantage of the Covid harvesting and there is no way they can repeat. Harris will fall back to Dem numbers of 2012 and 2016 in the mid to high 60s.

I do think the Dem base has grown since then and a good candidate could have competed with Trump in the mid 70 million mark.

Kamalas only hope was to slightly outperform Hillary and hope that Trump's support came way down from 2020. That just not what has happened in polling or EV data.
 
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