i am definitely leaning to your side. i've never spent much (if any) time on ufos, however, i think a massive global multi-government cover up spanning decades and decades is a little hard to believe.
Well said, but again I don't think you quite grasp the intensity of the cover up and what means that they have/will go to to maintain it. Many are not of the earth. Suggest going back and carefully reading the NYT article.Dick Winters said:
Again... hearsay man. Sure the government lies (or at least doesn't convey information to some extent) to the public, but if there was REALLY something groundbreaking like aliens among us/aliens captured/aliens dissected/etc., dude surely someone would come out with physical proof rather than "I saw this" or "I saw that"....
Is there a coverup of something? Sure. But if there have really been 73 years of government funded coverups of aliens, someone is going to be able to slip something past some system or person to expose the truth for what it really is.
I just find it even more impossible to believe that if aliens existed and there is physical evidence of some kind, that the government has been 100% on stopping ALL leaks of physical evidence leaking out to the public.
Are there UFOs? Sure, but doesn't mean its aliens. Just some other Earth-led group that has some technology above and beyond someone else's.
Correction - the Pentagon has essentially confirmed the existence of vehicles whose origins can't be identified by the military. Officially, they don't know where these things came from or who made them. There has been no confirmation from the Pentagon that they are extraterrestrial.Bretton Gekko said:
Public has absolutely been conditioned to disregard UFO information. The Pentagon has Essentially confirmed The existence of off world vehicles, and people still can't believe. It's comical.
Spyderman said:
Good stuff presented here.
I've heard that there a those in our DOD that want and will not settle for a "partial" disclosure on this subject.
We've been back-engineering things since at least the '40s. "They" are not getting here using fossil fuels. I think its common decency for someone not to lie to you...Shakes the Clown said:Spyderman said:
Good stuff presented here.
I've heard that there a those in our DOD that want and will not settle for a "partial" disclosure on this subject.
Why do you want disclosure? What benefit does it do our society to admit that they have known about UFOs and ETs for decades?
Let's say they were to release a 2000 page report that details many of the known cases and files.
Then what ? Is it going to change anything?
The "disclosure" camp in not thinking this through.
So now we are to "trust" our government on this matter?
I'm of the mindset that the public will come to their own conclusions.
You actually believe humans by themselves built the pyramids? Crop circles...cattle mutilations....oh yeah, they have already announced. Phoenix-1997. Zimbabwe 1994.txagbear said:
lol.. The extra terrestrials who travelled light years to get here aren't smart enough to announce their presence. They have to rely on earthlings to do that,
Spyderman said:
Good stuff presented here.
I've heard that there a those in our DOD that want and will not settle for a "partial" disclosure on this subject.
Dunno, but you may want to catch the new film.MW03 said:Spyderman said:
Good stuff presented here.
I've heard that there a those in our DOD that want and will not settle for a "partial" disclosure on this subject.
Been wondering what Steve Harwell has been up to. Apparently, hanging out with someone cosplaying as Jedi Jesus.
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The weather has really been something. It's been cold all over. When I left Rome yesterday, it was two. The fountains were frozen and everything. And that's Celsius. It's all the way down to Celsius. In Naples it was only up to ten, and down in Reggio Calabria, home of the Marconi School of Broadcasting, my alma mater, it was twelve. It was a little warmer in Palermo, sixteen in the Conca d'Oro. Up north in Venice, a cold minus two. In the sister city of Trieste, two, too. Over in Milano, it was one degree. Bologna was three. Skies clear in Bologna tonight. A good night for spotting U.F.O.'s "oofoes" we call them in Italy.
I once saw a UFO near Bologna. I was driving from Assisi on this road here, and it was late at night, and from nowhere there were these two giant white lights and it just zoomed right past me real fast and it just seemed to disappear. It was about ten feet long I would say real sleek looking looked a lot like a Corvette. And as soon as it was gone I said to myself, did I see that or not? And you see, that's what they do to you. They shoot you with something, some kind of ray gun and it makes you doubt that you saw them. If you think you've never seen one, you probably see them all the time.
And after what happened to me, I started carrying my camera with me at all times, just to prove to myself that I'm not hallucinating. Was just a few months ago that I spotted one again. I was in Los Angeles at the home of a friend of mine, Rainbow is her name. Fortunately, I had my camera with me. You can't tell much from the photo, but it was kind of silvery looking. And it was in the air a long time, just kind of hovering there. And Rainbow says "Listen: all the dogs are barking." And it was true all the dogs were barking.
And then it just kind of very slowly drifted away. I had this blow-up made of the UFO. I know what you're thinking: you think it's just the Goodyear blimp. That's what everybody says. But I did some research and called the Goodyear Blimp people and they told me their nearest blimp was miles away from where I spotted this UFO. And that's when it dawned on me. Don't you think that if these aliens are smart enough to get here, they're smart enough to disguise their spaceships as Goodyear Blimps?
Come on they weren't born yesterday. They've been spying on us like this for years and years. And my research proves that about one out of every five sightings of Goodyear Blimps is actually a flying saucer in disguise. So, don't take any chances. If you ever see what you think is the Goodyear Blimp, call the police, call the mayor of your town, call the president, even call your senators you can never tell.
Dick Winters said:
And now we are to believe they are hiding as advertisers for a tire manufacturer..... geez give me a break.
10thYrSr said:Dick Winters said:
And now we are to believe they are hiding as advertisers for a tire manufacturer..... geez give me a break.
May want to google Father Guido Sarducci. Itsa joke-a!
Dick, you really need to watch the film The Phenomenon. The evidence for this reality is overwhelming. Our neighborhood is really big with many neighbors.Dick Winters said:
There are way too many things working against the alien theory, the least of which being the great filter arguments....
Caught it on Vimeo-right at 20 bucks.Dick Winters said:
I do need to watch it. They carry it on Netflix or somewhere similar?
Pretty funny.Burdizzo said:
From Father Guido Sarducci in 1979...Quote:
The weather has really been something. It's been cold all over. When I left Rome yesterday, it was two. The fountains were frozen and everything. And that's Celsius. It's all the way down to Celsius. In Naples it was only up to ten, and down in Reggio Calabria, home of the Marconi School of Broadcasting, my alma mater, it was twelve. It was a little warmer in Palermo, sixteen in the Conca d'Oro. Up north in Venice, a cold minus two. In the sister city of Trieste, two, too. Over in Milano, it was one degree. Bologna was three. Skies clear in Bologna tonight. A good night for spotting U.F.O.'s "oofoes" we call them in Italy.
I once saw a UFO near Bologna. I was driving from Assisi on this road here, and it was late at night, and from nowhere there were these two giant white lights and it just zoomed right past me real fast and it just seemed to disappear. It was about ten feet long I would say real sleek looking looked a lot like a Corvette. And as soon as it was gone I said to myself, did I see that or not? And you see, that's what they do to you. They shoot you with something, some kind of ray gun and it makes you doubt that you saw them. If you think you've never seen one, you probably see them all the time.
And after what happened to me, I started carrying my camera with me at all times, just to prove to myself that I'm not hallucinating. Was just a few months ago that I spotted one again. I was in Los Angeles at the home of a friend of mine, Rainbow is her name. Fortunately, I had my camera with me. You can't tell much from the photo, but it was kind of silvery looking. And it was in the air a long time, just kind of hovering there. And Rainbow says "Listen: all the dogs are barking." And it was true all the dogs were barking.
And then it just kind of very slowly drifted away. I had this blow-up made of the UFO. I know what you're thinking: you think it's just the Goodyear blimp. That's what everybody says. But I did some research and called the Goodyear Blimp people and they told me their nearest blimp was miles away from where I spotted this UFO. And that's when it dawned on me. Don't you think that if these aliens are smart enough to get here, they're smart enough to disguise their spaceships as Goodyear Blimps?
Come on they weren't born yesterday. They've been spying on us like this for years and years. And my research proves that about one out of every five sightings of Goodyear Blimps is actually a flying saucer in disguise. So, don't take any chances. If you ever see what you think is the Goodyear Blimp, call the police, call the mayor of your town, call the president, even call your senators you can never tell.
So, how did our astronauts survive this radiation while on the moon? Our suits stopped 300x normal radiation levels?Quote:
Data transmitted back to Earth about the rock is being analyzed. One of the most critical features of the mission is that scientists are carrying out the first measurements of radiation on the moon. Radiation data is being acquired using a neutron radiation detector aboard the rover. The surface of the moon is highly radioactive.
A study showed that the Moon's surface is approximately 2 to 3 times as radioactive as the International Space Station. It's 300 times more radioactive than the surface of the Earth in Beijing. Dealing with space radiation is one of the biggest challenges humans face as they look for a sustained presence on the Moon and Mars in the future.
YouBet said:
I don't know where to post this so I'll post it here for funsies and as an escape from election talk. This is about the Chinese lunar lander that is on the Moon right now which I had no idea was even happening.
https://www.slashgear.com/chinese-lunar-rover-cruises-565-meters-on-the-far-side-of-the-moon-25644305/So, how did our astronauts survive this radiation while on the moon? Our suits stopped 300x normal radiation levels?Quote:
Data transmitted back to Earth about the rock is being analyzed. One of the most critical features of the mission is that scientists are carrying out the first measurements of radiation on the moon. Radiation data is being acquired using a neutron radiation detector aboard the rover. The surface of the moon is highly radioactive.
A study showed that the Moon's surface is approximately 2 to 3 times as radioactive as the International Space Station. It's 300 times more radioactive than the surface of the Earth in Beijing. Dealing with space radiation is one of the biggest challenges humans face as they look for a sustained presence on the Moon and Mars in the future.
dang...Courtney gave a great explanation for why much of his RV work revolved around ET. Not sure why it was blocked..will post again if/when available.Dick Winters said:
"This video has been removed by the uploader."